Vintage;1509261 said:
Before we get all giddy and cream ourselves...
Wimbley had a good rookie year. He should be better with his second year of development.
They do have a solid, but far from spectacular LB core last year, they do have some talent at LB, I will give you that much.
Sean Jones and Brodney Pool are a nice young S tandem. Leigh Bodden, when healthy, is a very good CB. Eric Wright had 1st round talent.
Andra Davis is a pretty solid LB and DQwell Jackson is a solid prospect for them as well.
They have one MAJOR problem on there D they can NOT stop the run.
They were 29th in yards per game given up rushing, and 23rd in yards per attempt.
There secondary was not that bad last year at all, but if you can't stop the run you can not win ball games.
Offensively, Braylon is coming back, Winslow began to show signs last year,
Braylon Edwards is going to be a very good NFL WR, but he has yet to show the burst to make him a GREAT NFL WR. Becides, it doesn't matter how good he is, his QB;s are still either Frye(who is a good smart QB, with the talent to be a NFL player thus limiting his effectiveness, or a rookie, and even Peyton Manning didn't look all that great his rookie year, and he had alot more talent than Quinn does to work with.
their OL should be improved with Steinbach and Thomas.
The thing about great OL's is teams don't ever seem to develope great OL's threw FA's. And it is also rare that FA OL ever live up to the hype and live upto there billing. And a HUGE part of that is OL is more of a cohesive thing, that a person thing. I have seen OL's with alot of great "talent" that do not live upto there billing, and alot of OL's that do not have any one great player on the OL, but the unit as a whole is a GREAT unit.
Frye will have another year of experience if he starts.
Experience was not Frye's problem last year, it was talent level. He is a smart kid and a hard worker supposedly. But, the knock on him from the beginning is that he does not have the talent level to be a starting NFL QB. Experience does NOT help that....
No they are far from a lock, but I have hard time coming up with a team that looks significantly worse on paper than the Browns do.
They could win 6 games next year.
I would say that 6 wins is the absolute BEST that the Browns can hope for next year with there schedule. And that would require they pull a couple of upset wins and still not lose to any of the winnable games. Heck, I don't see a single game on there schedule that they SHOULD win, just a few that they COULD win.....
And I don't see how the Browns are worse than the Raiders.
As for how they are worse than the Raiders. Well, the Raiders have a better RB corps, a better WR corps, and a MUCH MUCH better defense. While OL play is the ONLY position that sticks out to me as a position that COULD be a stronger position for the Browns, and even that is not a 100% sure thing. The Raiders did bring in several solid OL in FA this year.