Nothing wrong with signing low cost veterans

[FanofJerry]

My concern, is that in Jerry's mind it makes him think that he is doing something significant in free agency, when he's not.

I assume Jerry self medicates on not being able to be laughed at by other GMs by his refusal to sign good vets.

He thinks it's other people's trash they let go, if he signs them and they suck...he is vulnerable to be laughed at by his peers.

So, since he isn't trying to win anyway...he just doesn't do it and removes the vulnerability.

He would rather lean on McClay

 

[Flamma]

He's no way mediocre at all people need to stop

Hurts is a very good QB when he has an outstanding run game, runs it himself, and is throwing in favorable conditions as a result. Hurts has not looked good at all as a straight drop back QB throwing into coverage. They tried that with him early in his career, and he was forced to do it at the back end of 2023. But under his current situation, he'll continue to be a very good QB.

 

[charron]

Has to be this and drafting well, which the Eagles have been doing both of lately.

They also use free agency wisely. Draft the most expensive positions, supplement the best players available at the other positions.

 

[blueblood70]

Message for the Hurts haters: Many QB’s have had the team around them and failed. This basic fact seems to be a mystery to some posters here. You just look ignorant.

I don't think it's ridiculous and it's not being haters, its being obviously honest. Show me all the teams that had that kind of talent literally the "all in" because not many teams do it so don't say it's been done & other quarterbacks have failed, because I haven't seen that too often.. it's usually the other way around.. It might be the case that that team may have fell short, but it might also have been because of injuries prior to the game or in the game I mean let's keep some perspective here....

We've seen throughout history; guys like Nick Fole, Trent Dilfer, and Brad Johnson just to name a few. I mean I'll even put Jim McMahon in there just simple bus drivers, don't screw it up but if you do, we'll have your back as our defense and our trench work total team coaching staffs have been great and you don't have to be perfect at quarterback as a matter of fact you don't even need a great quarterback... Think about some of the spare quarterbacks that had great defenses that didn't make the Super Bowl or maybe they did make the Super Bowl but most of the championship games..​

​

I can remember just off the top of my head Blake Bortals and Mark Sanchez were not that good and by the way neither was Danny White they were on super teams and yes they fell short, but there's a reason.. they looked at it as hey at least they made the championship game no no no no the defense is the special teams and the plays made by the players around them is why they got that far..​

Dak and Romo have not, If you can't see why we're having this discussion that's the problem,​

​

no one's dismissing Jalen hurts he did play very well in both Super Bowls he did fumble he did have an interception but their defense wasn't good enough in the 1st one the defense flat out shut down everyone in this last Super Bowl that's why they won the game he wasn't even necessarily needed in my opinion he probably could have ran with their backup and just handed the ball to Semicon Barkley play small ball and play defense and probably still won that game....​

​

BTW To be fair I look at Troy Aikman and Roger Staubach the same way dude those teams were absolutely ridiculous and they would not have performed much better than Romo or DAC on these particular teams the last 1520 years they just wouldn't they would not have the success the success wasn't because of the quarterback alone yes they were talented... But if you look at the games if you look at they made mistakes in those games interceptions fumbles they were not perfect but they were not asked to be perfect so when I'm judging my own heroes for the Dallas Cowboys I can also judge Jalen hurts the same way and he's being overrated we're not saying Don't give him his flowers but don't act like this dude's better than Prescott he's not...​

​

He just happens to be on a better team


This is why this narrative was created people talk about this because Jalen hurts had it easy, if he was with the Cowboys he wouldn't be doing squat, would he be as effective or similar to Prescott, Sure, that's why we know you put Prescott over there and they still win a Super Bowl..

that's the point there are very few teams that do this this is why Matthew Stafford was always looked at like Tony Romo a great player on a team that just wouldn't do enough and as soon as he gets over to the all in Rams he's the same player he didn't change led the league in interceptions had two interceptions in the Super Bowl they had his back the defense was that good and they won that game.

Nobody seems to mention the turnovers it doesn't matter that's why just like Jalen hurts he had an early interception they just snuffed it out it didn't matter that defense said I have your back the coaches said I have your back the running backs and all the receivers that I have your back don't worry about it and they went on to win..

Don't tell me that somehow you're dismissing how great that defense just executed and the game plans and the play calling to shut down Andy Reid's offense that is led by one of the best quarterbacks to ever play the game in Patrick Mahomes they literally said no matter what you're not going to have to play perfectly or score a lot of points to win this game and they went out on all three phases in coaching and did that that is why you're going to hear that Jalen hurts should not be given that kind of credit because we haven't seen him too often without this type of team around him because when he's been like that his rookie year or second year he's looked very average or normal whatever you want to call it...

 

[5Stars]

I don't think it's ridiculous and it's not being haters, its being obviously honest. Show me all the teams that had that kind of talent literally the "all in" because not many teams do it so don't say it's been done & other quarterbacks have failed, because I haven't seen that too often.. it's usually the other way around.. It might be the case that that team may have fell short, but it might also have been because of injuries prior to the game or in the game I mean let's keep some perspective here....

We've seen throughout history; guys like Nick Fole, Trent Dilfer, and Brad Johnson just to name a few. I mean I'll even put Jim McMahon in there just simple bus drivers, don't screw it up but if you do, we'll have your back as our defense and our trench work total team coaching staffs have been great and you don't have to be perfect at quarterback as a matter of fact you don't even need a great quarterback... Think about some of the spare quarterbacks that had great defenses that didn't make the Super Bowl or maybe they did make the Super Bowl but most of the championship games..​

​

I can remember just off the top of my head Blake Bortals and Mark Sanchez were not that good and by the way neither was Danny White they were on super teams and yes they fell short, but there's a reason.. they looked at it as hey at least they made the championship game no no no no the defense is the special teams and the plays made by the players around them is why they got that far..​

Dak and Romo have not, If you can't see why we're having this discussion that's the problem,​

​

no one's dismissing Jalen hurts he did play very well in both Super Bowls he did fumble he did have an interception but their defense wasn't good enough in the 1st one the defense flat out shut down everyone in this last Super Bowl that's why they won the game he wasn't even necessarily needed in my opinion he probably could have ran with their backup and just handed the ball to Semicon Barkley play small ball and play defense and probably still won that game....​

​

BTW To be fair I look at Troy Aikman and Roger Staubach the same way dude those teams were absolutely ridiculous and they would not have performed much better than Romo or DAC on these particular teams the last 1520 years they just wouldn't they would not have the success the success wasn't because of the quarterback alone yes they were talented... But if you look at the games if you look at they made mistakes in those games interceptions fumbles they were not perfect but they were not asked to be perfect so when I'm judging my own heroes for the Dallas Cowboys I can also judge Jalen hurts the same way and he's being overrated we're not saying Don't give him his flowers but don't act like this dude's better than Prescott he's not...​

​

He just happens to be on a better team


This is why this narrative was created people talk about this because Jalen hurts had it easy, if he was with the Cowboys he wouldn't be doing squat, would he be as effective or similar to Prescott, Sure, that's why we know you put Prescott over there and they still win a Super Bowl..

that's the point there are very few teams that do this this is why Matthew Stafford was always looked at like Tony Romo a great player on a team that just wouldn't do enough and as soon as he gets over to the all in Rams he's the same player he didn't change led the league in interceptions had two interceptions in the Super Bowl they had his back the defense was that good and they won that game.

Nobody seems to mention the turnovers it doesn't matter that's why just like Jalen hurts he had an early interception they just snuffed it out it didn't matter that defense said I have your back the coaches said I have your back the running backs and all the receivers that I have your back don't worry about it and they went on to win..

Don't tell me that somehow you're dismissing how great that defense just executed and the game plans and the play calling to shut down Andy Reid's offense that is led by one of the best quarterbacks to ever play the game in Patrick Mahomes they literally said no matter what you're not going to have to play perfectly or score a lot of points to win this game and they went out on all three phases in coaching and did that that is why you're going to hear that Jalen hurts should not be given that kind of credit because we haven't seen him too often without this type of team around him because when he's been like that his rookie year or second year he's looked very average or normal whatever you want to call it...

Really? I mean, really? Damn! If someone reads all this word salad. give me the jist of what the hell he is saying.

Really?

 

[StarOfGlory]

I don't think it's ridiculous and it's not being haters, its being obviously honest. Show me all the teams that had that kind of talent literally the "all in" because not many teams do it so don't say it's been done & other quarterbacks have failed, because I haven't seen that too often.. it's usually the other way around.. It might be the case that that team may have fell short, but it might also have been because of injuries prior to the game or in the game I mean let's keep some perspective here....

Just off the top of my head I can give you Jim Kelly failing four years in a row with an excellent team. Dan Marino with the #1 offense and #7 defense failed. Lamar Jackson's team this year was damn good but failed--and maybe Mark Andrews catches that last pass if the pass wasn't garbage. I'm not even going through the record books for those, I just remember those teams. There are a lot more great QB's that don't get it done than people believe.

 

[KingCorcoran]

I don't think it's ridiculous and it's not being haters, its being obviously honest. Show me all the teams that had that kind of talent literally the "all in" because not many teams do it so don't say it's been done & other quarterbacks have failed, because I haven't seen that too often.. it's usually the other way around.. It might be the case that that team may have fell short, but it might also have been because of injuries prior to the game or in the game I mean let's keep some perspective here....

We've seen throughout history; guys like Nick Fole, Trent Dilfer, and Brad Johnson just to name a few. I mean I'll even put Jim McMahon in there just simple bus drivers, don't screw it up but if you do, we'll have your back as our defense and our trench work total team coaching staffs have been great and you don't have to be perfect at quarterback as a matter of fact you don't even need a great quarterback... Think about some of the spare quarterbacks that had great defenses that didn't make the Super Bowl or maybe they did make the Super Bowl but most of the championship games..​

​

I can remember just off the top of my head Blake Bortals and Mark Sanchez were not that good and by the way neither was Danny White they were on super teams and yes they fell short, but there's a reason.. they looked at it as hey at least they made the championship game no no no no the defense is the special teams and the plays made by the players around them is why they got that far..​

Dak and Romo have not, If you can't see why we're having this discussion that's the problem,​

​

no one's dismissing Jalen hurts he did play very well in both Super Bowls he did fumble he did have an interception but their defense wasn't good enough in the 1st one the defense flat out shut down everyone in this last Super Bowl that's why they won the game he wasn't even necessarily needed in my opinion he probably could have ran with their backup and just handed the ball to Semicon Barkley play small ball and play defense and probably still won that game....​

​

BTW To be fair I look at Troy Aikman and Roger Staubach the same way dude those teams were absolutely ridiculous and they would not have performed much better than Romo or DAC on these particular teams the last 1520 years they just wouldn't they would not have the success the success wasn't because of the quarterback alone yes they were talented... But if you look at the games if you look at they made mistakes in those games interceptions fumbles they were not perfect but they were not asked to be perfect so when I'm judging my own heroes for the Dallas Cowboys I can also judge Jalen hurts the same way and he's being overrated we're not saying Don't give him his flowers but don't act like this dude's better than Prescott he's not...​

​

He just happens to be on a better team


This is why this narrative was created people talk about this because Jalen hurts had it easy, if he was with the Cowboys he wouldn't be doing squat, would he be as effective or similar to Prescott, Sure, that's why we know you put Prescott over there and they still win a Super Bowl..

that's the point there are very few teams that do this this is why Matthew Stafford was always looked at like Tony Romo a great player on a team that just wouldn't do enough and as soon as he gets over to the all in Rams he's the same player he didn't change led the league in interceptions had two interceptions in the Super Bowl they had his back the defense was that good and they won that game.

Nobody seems to mention the turnovers it doesn't matter that's why just like Jalen hurts he had an early interception they just snuffed it out it didn't matter that defense said I have your back the coaches said I have your back the running backs and all the receivers that I have your back don't worry about it and they went on to win..

Don't tell me that somehow you're dismissing how great that defense just executed and the game plans and the play calling to shut down Andy Reid's offense that is led by one of the best quarterbacks to ever play the game in Patrick Mahomes they literally said no matter what you're not going to have to play perfectly or score a lot of points to win this game and they went out on all three phases in coaching and did that that is why you're going to hear that Jalen hurts should not be given that kind of credit because we haven't seen him too often without this type of team around him because when he's been like that his rookie year or second year he's looked very average or normal whatever you want to call it...

Jalen Hurts is still developing. The Cowboys just acquired Joe Milton. He has physical tools. That can’t be denied. He has one year in the league, played very little behind a fellow rookie QB. Later this week a guy named Tyler Shough will be one of the first 100 players selected in the NFL draft. Some of positives attributed to him are he’s mature and has played a lot of football.

Hurts is only 19 months older than Milton. He’s 13 months older than Shough. If these young quarterbacks have time to develop into competent NFL QBs can’t the same be said of an almost equally young Jalen Hurts? He has physical tools that can’t be denied. He’s mature and has played a lot of football. What if he improves?

 

[blueblood70]

Really? I mean, really? Damn! If someone reads all this word salad. give me the jist of what the hell he is saying.

Really?

yes really!!

 

[blueblood70]

Jalen Hurts is still developing. The Cowboys just acquired Joe Milton. He has physical tools. That can’t be denied. He has one year in the league, played very little behind a fellow rookie QB. Later this week a guy named Tyler Shough will be one of the first 100 players selected in the NFL draft. Some of positives attributed to him are he’s mature and has played a lot of football.

Hurts is only 19 months older than Milton. He’s 13 months older than Shough. If these young quarterbacks have time to develop into competent NFL QBs can’t the same be said of an almost equally young Jalen Hurts? He has physical tools that can’t be denied. He’s mature and has played a lot of football. What if he improves?

You're allowed to have whatever opinion you want,

but let me tell you something his AGE,means nothing ,when he came to a team like the Eagles who were almost really good from the beginning and has did nothing but give him talent around him, (nick foles says hello) his years of experience are the only thing that matters, not his age,

he's not still developing, I mean yeah he could get better in one area later in his career who knows, but he's also going to get worse at running, nobody's going to run for that long that effectively, and when they take that away and take those touchdowns away from the tush push and that OL being that great wont last..

We can then have the debate that his games going to drop off and he'll have to get better at pocket presence and passing ,

but I want to hear the nonsense my opinion is he's a very good player he's not better than Prescott and you telling us about all these other players mean nothing we see what we see when he was drafted and year one up till now he's got a Super Bowl ring and that's great but that's a team accomplishment and yes he's been a very good quarterback but again this debate is stop acting like Prescott has had some of these advantages because he has not he's had worse coaching staffs worst GM and a worse ensemble of characters around him...

But I've never seen in my life so many Cowboys fans give so much praise to the Eagles this is almost as bad not quite as all the new Laker fans that used to be mag fans just because Lucas a Laker it doesn't make you stop hating the Lakers that means you probably were never a true fan in the first place and I'm saying I'm calling out your fandom i'm tired of hearing about the Eagles tired of hearing about Jalen Hertz and you guys whining because we're not giving him his flowers?

To your expectations somehow is as diehard cowboy fans should prop up players on other teams that are absolute rivals teams that we hate the players who wear the green we hate and as much as I'll give him credit for being a solid player he's being giving too much credit for team success whereas our quarterbacks getting too much hate and criticism because of the team he's on...

 

[StarOfGlory]

But I've never seen in my life so many Cowboys fans give so much praise to the Eagles this is almost as bad not quite as all the new Laker fans that used to be mag fans just because Lucas a Laker it doesn't make you stop hating the Lakers that means you probably were never a true fan in the first place and I'm saying I'm calling out your fandom i'm tired of hearing about the Eagles tired of hearing about Jalen Hertz and you guys whining because we're not giving him his flowers?

To your expectations somehow is as diehard cowboy fans should prop up players on other teams that are absolute rivals teams that we hate the players who wear the green we hate and as much as I'll give him credit for being a solid player he's being giving too much credit for team success whereas our quarterbacks getting too much hate and criticism because of the team he's on...

I know this was not a reply to what I said, but I have to say something. I don't want to hear any crap about anyone on these boards giving props to another NFL player. I played football from the time I was seven years old to the last game of my senior year at Rutgers. I failed in two training camps later, ironically for the Giants and R-words. I know what every NFL player went through to get there. I know what it's like to put on the pads and get smashed by top level athletes. I know what it's like to practically live in the weight room to try to add that last pound of muscle. I know what it's like to do cardio drills every day for years. I know what it's like to be so damn tired that you just want to quit, but you can't quit because someone with hunger in their eyes wants your position on the team, wants your scholarship, wants everything that comes with what you earned. I have absolute RESPECT for ANYONE that makes it to the NFL.

 

[dupree89]

Really? I mean, really? Damn! If someone reads all this word salad. give me the jist of what the hell he is saying.

Really?

basically, he was wishing everyone a Happy Easter

 

[5Stars]

basically, he was wishing everyone a Happy Easter

Easter on 4/20. Time to light it up.

 

[blueblood70]

I know this was not a reply to what I said, but I have to say something. I don't want to hear any crap about anyone on these boards giving props to another NFL player. I played football from the time I was seven years old to the last game of my senior year at Rutgers. I failed in two training camps later, ironically for the Giants and R-words. I know what every NFL player went through to get there. I know what it's like to put on the pads and get smashed by top level athletes. I know what it's like to practically live in the weight room to try to add that last pound of muscle. I know what it's like to do cardio drills every day for years. I know what it's like to be so damn tired that you just want to quit, but you can't quit because someone with hunger in their eyes wants your position on the team, wants your scholarship, wants everything that comes with what you earned. I have absolute RESPECT for ANYONE that makes it to the NFL.

Has nothing to do with respect or lack of respect for the player we don't have to give him extra flowers you know you're in a Cowboys place right you're not on your Facebook page you're not in your chat room you literally are in our safe space for our fans and our hated rivals should not get flowers when our own quarterback gets hated on to the 10th degree the criticism for our own players is so out of control that when I do see too many posts with the word Eagles in it or Washington or whatever name the Giants even I'll throw the Packers the Niners and the Steelers in there lest the Steelers lately but I don't want to see anybody talking about our rivals and yes it bugs me this isn't about respecting a player this is about not giving them extra flowers talking about them too much and a cowboy zone the word is here it's about the Cowboys,

now get it.. I understand that game week and we should fully talk about our rivals that we're about to play if we want to talk about their players having a great year and we should respect them and we need a game plan for them that's one thing but when somebody is defending Jalen Hurts and his criticism without using the parallel views that a lot of our fan base think Prescott sucks and they do nothing but talk down to our own players you damn right I'm going to be on the side of our players and not want to hear about Jalen hurts i'm not crying for the dude because he's getting some criticism and not enough flowers for being a Super Bowl winner i'm sorry it's not going to happen that's not a lack of respect that's normal that's what fanatics do we're a fan for the Dallas Cowboys and I'm not giving a single eagle any flowers that they don't really deserve in my opinion you're basically mad over negative post about Hertz not giving him enough credit yeah that's for sure not necessary in a Cowboys ZONE...

That's all I'm saying I can literally totally respect say Saquan Barkley, but I'm not giving him any extra positive posts and feedback he's a great player ,so is Ezekiel Elliott, I'm betting Ezekiel in his prime behind that offensive line in that Offense, with that defense, would have had just as good a year, but I bet you're going to come back and say no that Barkleys better, you know why because you're a secret closet Eagles fan LOL

Too many flowers to our rivals, you will get a blowback post from me, for sure.. that's the problem you're going out of your way to defend their players is not just simply saying he's a good player that you should respect.. you're going too far, people go too far I don't want to hear about Howie Roseman, I hate Kellen Moore, I used to like Moore but when he became an eagle, I hated him, that's normal for a real fan of a real of a team.

I mean, I remember just last example players like Deon Sanders Charles Haley once hated were embraced here but as soon as they left and played for the Commanders or Terrell Owens with the Eagles all bets are off they no longer need respect from our fan base when they're playing for our rivals...

 

[Jarntt]

...IF you sign the correct ones.

The Eagles paid 4.66M total for 2024 to OLineman Mekhi Becton.

Becton was a bust for the Jets as the 11th overall pick in theh 2020 NFL draft.
- The Jets played him at OT and were dissappointed.

The Eagles sign him and put his 360+ pound body at OG.
- He was their starting RG including 4 playoff games.
- Result: The Eagles powered their way to a Super Bowl win with a mediocre QB...

Totally agree that the problem is not the signing of low cost veterans. As a matter of fact that is a fantastic way to fill out the depth chart and "churn the bottom of the roster". We hang onto the Waletzko's and the same old guys who cost no more than these free agent vets for way too long waiting for something that never happens and just end up with depth players that hurt us when we are forced to play them. The bottom of our depth chart kind of stinks if we are being honest about it. Being familiar with a guy seems to be a higher priority in Dallas than any other professional franchise in the world and the results speak for themselves.

The problem IS when that is all you do. You can't go over a decade without signing even one prime outside free agent. It's just not possible to succeed in the NFL like that.You should be signing at least one outside impact free agent every year or two, maybe three at the most. You draft players, you re-sign your players and your bring in outside free agents. That's how you win in the NFL. Doing only two of the three is just incompetent. It's like a self imposed penalty that would be devastating to another franchise, but to us, it's business as usual

 

[StarOfGlory]

Has nothing to do with respect or lack of respect for the player we don't have to give him extra flowers you know you're in a Cowboys place right you're not on your Facebook page you're not in your chat room you literally are in our safe space for our fans and our hated rivals should not get flowers when our own quarterback gets hated on to the 10th degree the criticism for our own players is so out of control that when I do see too many posts with the word Eagles in it or Washington or whatever name the Giants even I'll throw the Packers the Niners and the Steelers in there lest the Steelers lately but I don't want to see anybody talking about our rivals and yes it bugs me this isn't about respecting a player this is about not giving them extra flowers talking about them too much and a cowboy zone the word is here it's about the Cowboys,

now get it.. I understand that game week and we should fully talk about our rivals that we're about to play if we want to talk about their players having a great year and we should respect them and we need a game plan for them that's one thing but when somebody is defending Jalen Hurts and his criticism without using the parallel views that a lot of our fan base think Prescott sucks and they do nothing but talk down to our own players you damn right I'm going to be on the side of our players and not want to hear about Jalen hurts i'm not crying for the dude because he's getting some criticism and not enough flowers for being a Super Bowl winner i'm sorry it's not going to happen that's not a lack of respect that's normal that's what fanatics do we're a fan for the Dallas Cowboys and I'm not giving a single eagle any flowers that they don't really deserve in my opinion you're basically mad over negative post about Hertz not giving him enough credit yeah that's for sure not necessary in a Cowboys ZONE...

That's all I'm saying I can literally totally respect say Saquan Barkley, but I'm not giving him any extra positive posts and feedback he's a great player ,so is Ezekiel Elliott, I'm betting Ezekiel in his prime behind that offensive line in that Offense, with that defense, would have had just as good a year, but I bet you're going to come back and say no that Barkleys better, you know why because you're a secret closet Eagles fan LOL

Too many flowers to our rivals, you will get a blowback post from me, for sure.. that's the problem you're going out of your way to defend their players is not just simply saying he's a good player that you should respect.. you're going too far, people go too far I don't want to hear about Howie Roseman, I hate Kellen Moore, I used to like Moore but when he became an eagle, I hated him, that's normal for a real fan of a real of a team.

I mean, I remember just last example players like Deon Sanders Charles Haley once hated were embraced here but as soon as they left and played for the Commanders or Terrell Owens with the Eagles all bets are off they no longer need respect from our fan base when they're playing for our rivals...

If you hate a player for going to another team, you have too much hate in your life. Football is a game. I will be upset that I will most likely never see the Cowboys never win another Super Bowl in my lifetime (I'm old), but I'm not professing hatred for the other 31 teams in the league that are in our way.

 

[KingCorcoran]

You're allowed to have whatever opinion you want,

but let me tell you something his AGE,means nothing ,when he came to a team like the Eagles who were almost really good from the beginning and has did nothing but give him talent around him, (nick foles says hello) his years of experience are the only thing that matters, not his age,

he's not still developing, I mean yeah he could get better in one area later in his career who knows, but he's also going to get worse at running, nobody's going to run for that long that effectively, and when they take that away and take those touchdowns away from the tush push and that OL being that great wont last..

We can then have the debate that his games going to drop off and he'll have to get better at pocket presence and passing ,

but I want to hear the nonsense my opinion is he's a very good player he's not better than Prescott and you telling us about all these other players mean nothing we see what we see when he was drafted and year one up till now he's got a Super Bowl ring and that's great but that's a team accomplishment and yes he's been a very good quarterback but again this debate is stop acting like Prescott has had some of these advantages because he has not he's had worse coaching staffs worst GM and a worse ensemble of characters around him...

But I've never seen in my life so many Cowboys fans give so much praise to the Eagles this is almost as bad not quite as all the new Laker fans that used to be mag fans just because Lucas a Laker it doesn't make you stop hating the Lakers that means you probably were never a true fan in the first place and I'm saying I'm calling out your fandom i'm tired of hearing about the Eagles tired of hearing about Jalen Hertz and you guys whining because we're not giving him his flowers?

To your expectations somehow is as diehard cowboy fans should prop up players on other teams that are absolute rivals teams that we hate the players who wear the green we hate and as much as I'll give him credit for being a solid player he's being giving too much credit for team success whereas our quarterbacks getting too much hate and criticism because of the team he's on...

Neither one of us knows if Jalen Hurts can improve anymore than we know Milton or Slough can. However, if quarterback is not an advantage the Eagles have over the Cowboys than the advantage must lie elsewhere. You’re implying that at the most important position the Cowboys have the advantage. So someone connected with the franchise is squandering that advantage.

The Cowboys are trying just to get to a NFCCG. The Eagles, and now perhaps the Commanders, have figured out how to overcome their less than elite quarterback and find the precise success the Cowboys don’t. Whoever that person connected with the franchise that’s squandering the team’s superior quarterback play is may still be involved in building the roster. That person has to go because according to you quarterback play is the Cowboys comparative advantage in the NFCE.

 

[blueblood70]

If you hate a player for going to another team, you have too much hate in your life. Football is a game. I will be upset that I will most likely never see the Cowboys never win another Super Bowl in my lifetime (I'm old), but I'm not professing hatred for the other 31 teams in the league that are in our way.

See how you try to twist the words,

that's not what I said, I said I hate the team,, you damn right my rivals I hate them with a passion that's why they're rivals!!!

bitter rivals; does that like bring a bell with you? Therefore, those players no longer garner my support, i'm not wishing anything bad on them, but I'm also not hoping they have great games, because you know what that means it affects our standings, that's what it means!!

you guys are really really thick you don't get it go ahead trade jerseys with the enemy, but don't expect me to pat you on the back for it. expect blowback!!

Sorry, we live in a different world ,but I guarantee most fans think like me real diehard fans are no longer going to support LuKa Doncic because he's with the Lakers,

I know people hate the Mavericks now but if you're a Laker fan because one of your better players went there you are never a Mavericks fan...Facts

i'm sorry the Lakers are one of the oldest longest bitter rivals of the Mavericks therefore I can no longer support Luka, i'm not going to hate on him ,i'm not going to wish him any bad harm, but I would I do wish is I hope his team goes on the worst losing streak that ever happened for the Lakers..

YUP i'm sorry that is how it works that's not hate for a player they're just not getting my support,

ALL my support are the ones that are wearing the logo of the teams that my following since I was a kid.. Facts

 

[blueblood70]

Neither one of us knows if Jalen Hurts can improve anymore than we know Milton or Slough can. However, if quarterback is not an advantage the Eagles have over the Cowboys than the advantage must lie elsewhere. You’re implying that at the most important position the Cowboys have the advantage. So someone connected with the franchise is squandering that advantage.

The Cowboys are trying just to get to a NFCCG. The Eagles, and now perhaps the Commanders, have figured out how to overcome their less than elite quarterback and find the precise success the Cowboys don’t. Whoever that person connected with the franchise that’s squandering the team’s superior quarterback play is may still be involved in building the roster. That person has to go because according to you quarterback play is the Cowboys comparative advantage in the NFCE.

Wrong we have a difference of opinion and I don't care anymore i'm moving on from this but I'm telling you right now coming out of college there is growth development and progress is going to be made with a professional staff and a better supporting cast In many cases lots of these players that you're talking about are coming from smaller schools or very unproductive or been a long time since those schools were any good now they get to the professional level they're going to get professional help better weight room better trainers better coaches better supporting cast around them so they will have more growth they will get better if they're capable...

Not many players come NFL ready there are very few but I could tell you this after you're in the league already 4 or 5 years you've been to the top there isn't a whole lot of growth left you've been in the system you've been with your team you've been learning all along and I'm telling you the thing you can count on is them losing something like health their knees they won't be able to run as much maybe their shoulders start going bad so if it even prove it you think mentally like they become a more professional seasoned player with more knowledge on how to read a defense or pick apart a defense they're losing something on the other end and like I said Jaylen hurts won't be able to run as much as he did when he was younger neither does Russell Wilson or Prescott they lost that part of their game because of age it's natural..

 

[Flamma]

Just off the top of my head I can give you Jim Kelly failing four years in a row with an excellent team. Dan Marino with the #1 offense and #7 defense failed. Lamar Jackson's team this year was damn good but failed--and maybe Mark Andrews catches that last pass if the pass wasn't garbage. I'm not even going through the record books for those, I just remember those teams. There are a lot more great QB's that don't get it done than people believe.

This is all semantics. Competition isn't always the same every year. The Dolphins had 1 year they were good enough to even make it to the SB, and they lost to a 15-1 team. The Dolphins best days were over going forward. It's not easy to win a SB, only one team can do it. A lot of things have to go right.

 

[StarOfGlory]

This is all semantics. Competition isn't always the same every year. The Dolphins had 1 year they were good enough to even make it to the SB, and they lost to a 15-1 team. The Dolphins best days were over going forward. It's not easy to win a SB, only one team can do it. A lot of things have to go right.

I wish they'd start going right for us.