Now that we've had a dose of reality....

[Doomsday101]

I posted this earlier. Older players usually look very good early in the season. That is when there bodies are still healthy enough and there experience, mental capacity all make for great play. When the first game of the season shows signs of failing health, that's not good. I'm not saying the season is over and in fact, I take offense at the fact that you and everybody seems to suggest this. Clearly, in my first posts, I said there is still a chance. However, that is overlooked in order to push other agenda. It's fine. I call it as I see it. Bledsoe is showing signs, in the first game that he is not healthy. That's bad. It is my choice to evaluate that as I see it and I evaluate it as poor.

I evaluate he played poorly also but I don't think age had anything to do with how he played yesterday. He had a rough outing but before coming up with the reason why how about waiting until you see a bit more. I also see no signes that would indicate he is unhealthy I'm not sure where you are getting that from?

 

[RCowboyFan]

If I'm talking to you about any given subject, that fact that it's you on the other end qualifies as a Big Bag of Nothing so, yeah. I guess where your concerned, that would be a correct statement.

:laugh1:

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

The fact is that Parcells and the staff believe that Tony Romo is the best backup they can have at this time. The fact is that anyone who is available now is or who has been available the past few years is going to have significant flaws to their game.

You haven't mentioned any names, but I'll throw out one. Kerry Collins. He has a track record in the NFL and he also has a lot of the flaws Bledsoe has with probably even less accuracy. I don't think that would be an improvement.

The staff obviously believes that Romo has the best opportunity to lead this team to victory if Bledsoe goes down. Your response will probably be, but Romo has never thrown a pass in a real NFL game. True, but the fact is none of us knows how that will go. Romo has certainly made strides since he came in to the league and showed he has NFL ability. He also has good feet and pocket presence. Is it possible that he actually is the best option?

Actually, my response will be that if Bledsoe is, in fact hurt, and can't go, we will be forced with the option of playing Barker as our backup or paying too much for a player that is not very good. Neither is very appealing to me. I don't dispute what the team believes about Romo. In fact, if Bledsoe can not go, I'm probably in favor of putting Romo in and letting him get experience in preperation for the next season. Having said that, I definatly believe it means giving this one up in the process.

 

[wileedog]

Actually, my response will be that if Bledsoe is, in fact hurt, and can't go, we will be forced with the option of playing Barker as our backup or paying too much for a player that is not very good. Neither is very appealing to me. I don't dispute what the team believes about Romo. In fact, if Bledsoe can not go, I'm probably in favor of putting Romo in and letting him get experience in preperation for the next season. Having said that, I definatly believe it means giving this one up in the process.

And having a washed up vet on the sidelines behind Bledsoe changes this how?

 

[RCowboyFan]

There bodies are still healthy enough to do the things they used to be able to and they have the mental knowledge to go with it. Who knows, maybe he will be fine next week. I certainly hope so.

And I expect him to be OK, giving false hope again as usual. You know, but having said that, as much as people might think I am one of the Bledsoe hater, if people have known my stance on him, I rather have him than Romo.

I just don't get a good feel about Romo, if he is a starter. A game or two, I think he will just be fine. Of course, if Romo proves me wrong and turns to be a really good QB that takes Cowboys to Big dance, I will gladly accept that I was wrong about him.

Either way, yesterday's game, pretty much firmly planted the belief in my head that this team in not going to contend, unless maybe Cowboys get Home field advantage in Playoffs, if they make it there. Bledsoe simply doesn't play well on the road. Its a hit and miss with him especially on the road too much.

The trend seems to be that he makes crippling mistakes on the road, at critical times 50% of the time.

 

[DLCassidy]

Are there still those who contend that Bledsoe is a HOF QB?

Are there still those who believe Bledsoe will somehow carry us to a Super Bowl?

Are there those who still believe it was a good decision to go into the season with only two QBs?

For me, the answers to these questions are No, No and No. They were prior to the season and yesterday only confirmed these points even more so in Jacksonville.

This is not to say that Bledsoe can not do what is needed to get us to the playoffs but lets finally stop with this BS about Bledsoe being a guy who can rise above and win games. Bledsoe had plenty of time yesteday. His INTs did not come under pressure. Our OL did not have a great game but they pass protected pretty well. We all knew they wouldn't be able to run. He is what he is. Bledsoe looked bad yesterday and that worries me for a couple of reasons. If Bledsoe isn't hurt, then why the issues with the back? We were playing in a very warm setting. If he's got issues with the back on a day that was 90 degrees, what happens in November and December when it's actually cold? The decision to go with two QBs, at least right now, doesn't not look to be a good one IMO.

Bledsoe had a bad game yesterday. But I think I'll wait a bit to agree with much else in the post.

 

[landryscorner]

Interesting that your telling me to have some perspective. I was not the one who contested we were a Super Bowl team. Nor was I the one who thought we needed to draft LBs instead of OLs. I was not the one who thought our QB situation was fine. Lastly, I've had 13 seasons to formulate opinion on Bledsoe. One bad game huh?

Interesting that you would tell me I need perspective.

OK, then. I'll just run right out and get some.

Thanks for the advice.

...I agree with the lb and ols our 1st round lb isn't even dressed, pathetic

 

[RCowboyFan]

And having a washed up vet on the sidelines behind Bledsoe changes this how?

I guess people consider Brian Griese a washed up veteran? Have some of you guys considered what ABQ has been saying even last year, was this same thing. Even before TC was over or started, that he wanted a veteran QB signed.

Now I don't agree with him and argued against it with him, but thats been his position. But now, I am gravitating towards that opinion, that maybe Cowboys should have signed a Brian Griese. Funny how BP says, when asked about Brian Griese in 2003 I think, he said " I don't care to sign a QB that I can go 8-8" or something to that effect, yet thats the QBs he keeps throwing at us.

I do hope I am wrong, and Bledsoe's only meltdown will be this game. And I am hopeful, with Normal Bledsoe trend, he will do well next week at home.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Nah. I'm not going to put you on ignore because you add to the conversation here at this site. Your comments are worth reading. I'm just telling you that this post isn't one of them. This is way too knee jerk and "I told you so" based on one game.

A good metric for evaluating the quality of a post or position is to question whether the same reaction would have occurred had the game gone a different way or if a player didn't have an off day (or the reverse). If Bledsoe had a reasonably good day, what would have been your reaction?

This is a good metric because it tells us the extent to which an opinion is based on a long-term view and a reasonable evaluation of the game itself.

I suggest your post does not. But I'm not going to put you on ignore for it. Instead, I'll just tell you to try to get some perspective before coming to these determinations based on one game.

I fail to see what is so knee jerk about this. Nothing I posted is anything that I haven't contended to be true for some time. Nothing here is a result of losing to Jacksonville. In truth, I expected us to lose to Jacksonville. As I have stated previously, I do believe Jacksonville has a quality young receiving corp. I do believe that there defense is not the school for the holy sisters of Teresa, but rather, one of the best front four in the NFL. I said this weeks ago. I am not surprised about the loss, nor is this knee jerk. To me, that game simply re-affirms what I feared to begin with. You can say it's only one game. That's fine. I say, it was stupid of people to go around claiming Bledsoe was a HOF QB capable of playing like a franchise QB when history shows that is not what should be expected. I say it was stupid to believe that Bledsoe can, and will go through the season unijured, again, with the condition of our OL and his age. I would not take that bet in Vegas. I say, it is stupid to believe that going with just Bledsoe and Romo was the best course of action at QB. It's asking for trouble IMO. 9 teams went with two QBs. I wonder who those nine teams, out of 32 were?

There is nothing knee jerk about my original post. If you want to accuse me of trying to say, I told you so, OK. I can live with that. There probably is some of that in there but nothing I posted is a direct result of a lose to Jacksonville. All of it was said before. In fact, way before this season ever started.

I appriciate the fact that you are trying to calm down our discussion and that you elect not to place me on ignore. That is not lost on me. I am just saying that if you really read what I am saying, it's not a rant base on one lose. It's more of a call to perspective, if you will. Lets stop believing we are what we have not proven to be. Before we call our selves Super Bowl champs, lets first make the playoffs. Before we say Bledsoe is a HOF QB, lets first prove that he can win the division. Before we proclaim Romo as the next Staubach, lets see if he can play a game in the NFL and win it. That's all I'm saying really.

 

[Cowboy Bill Watts]

IF we are forced to play Romo, it's going to be a long season IMO. Romo, to me, is not a viable option if we intend to get to the playoffs. If we decide to sacrafice the season to get Romo ready, then OK. That's one thing but if we do that, lets be clear that the season is forgone.

if all we get from bledsoe is 48.5 (his rating yesterday), we will see romo sooner rather than later.

there are all kinds of QBs out there who can put up a 48.5

 

[cowboyed]

Jesus. Get some freaking perspective.

Quarterbacks have bad days. Bledsoe had one. Guess what? Troy had bad games, too.

If Bledsoe plays like this for a couple games in a row, then we need to start addressing it.

But you are batcrap insane if you think because of one bad game then that means he is out of contention for the Hall of Fame. Maybe he never had a shot and maybe he did. But only a fool would think that one game would materially alter that one way or another. It's about a career.

The same foolishness applies to your other questions.

If you had perspective, you might actually realize that one bad game does not change any the answer to any of your questions.

cobra, I get your drift, but I don't know if Aikman ever had that kind of a bad Bledsoe day when spotted a 10 point lead, a good outstanding offensive supporting cast highlighted by 2 outstanding deep threat receivers and a first rate defense, all under the guidance and direction of a Superbowl winning and eventual Hall of Fame head coach.

 

[cobra]

There is nothing knee jerk about my original post. If you want to accuse me of trying to say, I told you so, OK. I can live with that. There probably is some of that in there but nothing I posted is a direct result of a lose to Jacksonville. All of it was said before. In fact, way before this season ever started.

Would your post have been materially different if Bledsoe had a good game?

 

[cobra]

cobra, I get your drift, but I don't know if Aikman ever had that kind of a bad Bledsoe day when spotted a 10 point lead, a good outstanding offensive supporting cast highlighted by 2 outstanding deep threat receivers and a first rate defense, all under the guidance and direction of a Superbowl winning and eventual Hall of Fame head coach.

Wow. I guess we only remember the good days.

Aikman had days that bad (and worse). They all do.

For instance, in 2000, Aikman put up the following numbers in a game against the NYG:

Comp: 22
Att: 42
Yards: 211
TD: 1
Int: 5

 

[DLCassidy]

Would your post have been materially different if Bledsoe had a good game?

No, he just would have waited until Bledsoe sucked to post it.

 

[danzig]

Now that ive Had a night to sleep on the game ive settled down a bit. That was a Pretty good Team the Cowboys played against yesterday. Say what you want about there schedule last year it takes a good team to win 12 games. Im about ready to move on to this week but before i do i will say that the cowboys Oline must improve if they are going to compete for a playoff spot. That was my main concern going into the season and sure enough it rears its ugly head in game 1. That being said when they were blocking ok early in the game Bledsoe missed a few opportunities to build a 3 score lead. Everyone knows he missed owens in the middle but he also underthrew JJ on the passs leading to the FG, had he hit JJ in stride that would have been another TD and combined with the TO miss they could have been up 21-0. With that lead i dont believe Jax would have comeback to win that game. Bottom line the cowboys made mistakes and didnt make they plays to put the game away while Jax started making the plays that eventually lead to them winning the game.

Now its time to move on to Sunday. Bring on the skins and hopefully a 1-1 record come next Monday

P.S. I for 1 am not in panic mode yet, it was 1 game

 

[RCowboyFan]

Would your post have been materially different if Bledsoe had a good game?

Sorry, not to be insulting, but thats a dumb question. Its like saying, would you still send a person to gallows if he didn't commit those crimes? I know its probably a rediculous analogy, but thats how that question is to me.

ABQ has stated the same opinion, few weeks ago, if you want to look it up. If Bledsoe does have back issues or something is wrong healthwise, then ABQ's fear might be correct about not having viable third stringer.

Now I don't know where they can get one, because its too late for that, if Bledsoe does have lingering issues.

 

[RCowboyFan]

Would your post have been materially different if Bledsoe had a good game?

Like Aikman said once " Everyone has photographic memory, just no one has the film to prove it". I suppose you can bring up some games where Cowboys were seemingly crusing and all, and Aikman inexplicabily plays bad after starting good?

 

[cowboyed]

This was more a case of the clap than a dose of reality.

 

[Dough Boy]

Sorry, not to be insulting, but thats a dumb question. Its like saying, would you still send a person to gallows if he didn't commit those crimes? I know its probably a rediculous analogy, but thats how that question is to me.

ABQ has stated the same opinion, few weeks ago, if you want to look it up. If Bledsoe does have back issues or something is wrong healthwise, then ABQ's fear might be correct about not having viable third stringer.

Now I don't know where they can get one, because its too late for that, if Bledsoe does have lingering issues.

Sorry, but it really is not that dumb of a question. Had we won the game, ABQ suggested he would write the same thing.

Nothing here is a result of losing to Jacksonville

.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Would your post have been materially different if Bledsoe had a good game?

Yes, if only that I would not have posted it. I do believe what I posted to be true. I believe that eventually, it will be proven out over the course of the season. All who know me, know that I will not run and hide if I am proven to be wrong over the course of the season. I will not change my user name, nor will I go and join another board. I will man up and admit that I was wrong about this guy or that guy and go on. Really, to me, it's not about that. I've watched football for many years and I know that eventually, time catches up with all of us. I just believe that Bledsoe is at or near that point in his career. I believed this when we signed him.

In short, I would not have posted this because I would have had no cause. Not because I didn't believe it but because it would not have been appropriate or been of value. Now, if your asking if I would have posted something asking people to keep perspective about our team and the season, the answer is yes. I have done this often and I generally get the same type of reaction from those posts. There are always those who see a call for a certain amount of measure as attack on the players or the team. That is something that will never change.