Offense better than you think

[robjay04]

Rams - 4.15 pts per drive
Chiefs - 3.4 pts per drive
Cowboys - 2.75 pts per drive
Atlanta 2.37 pts per drive

Touchdown and points per drive- maximizing your possessions

You’re wrong again.

Chiefs effectively had 2.93 points per drive. Their offense only scored 44 points on 15 drives. Chiefs scored two defensive touchdowns so their offense scored 40 points so the Rams offense effectively scored 3.07 points per drive.

So is that extra quarter of a point worth multiple turnovers?

Dig a little deepe since there were multiple defensive touchdowns scored in the game.

Chiefs offense directly resulted in 21 points for the Rams. Well Rams did have to drive for one of those scores so I’ll give you 14

So...the Chiefs offense resulted in 14 points for the Rams on 15 drives via defensive touchdowns.That’s 0.93.

So the Chiefs had a net of 2.0 points per drive.
Using that same math...the Rams has a net 2.53 points per drive as well since the Chiefs scored a defensive touchdown.

Cowboys 2.75 net points per drive doesn’t sound so bad now?

 

[aikemirv]

You’re wrong again.

Chiefs effectively had 2.93 points per drive. Their offense only scored 44 points on 15 drives. Chiefs scored two defensive touchdowns so their offense scored 40 points so the Rams offense effectively scored 3.07 points per drive.

So is that extra quarter of a point worth multiple turnovers?

Dig a little deepe since there were multiple defensive touchdowns scored in the game.

Chiefs offense directly resulted in 21 points for the Rams. Well Rams did have to drive for one of those scores so I’ll give you 14

So...the Chiefs offense resulted in 14 points for the Rams on 15 drives via defensive touchdowns.That’s 0.93.

So the Chiefs had a net of 2.0 points per drive.
Using that same math...the Rams has a net 2.53 points per drive as well since the Chiefs scored a defensive touchdown.

Cowboys 2.75 net points per drive doesn’t sound so bad now?

I will give you some of that but I will take the Rams offense scoring 40 pts a game which puts pressure on the other teams offense to score points which causes turnovers. The Chiefs offense had way too many turnovers but the Rams offense did not.

I will take 40 pts and 2 turnovers every Sunday from my offense and I am pretty sure I win most weeks!

 

[Stash]

You make no sense now.

Team A scores on 50 percent of their drives either a touchdown or field goal with no turnovers

Team B scores on 50 percent of their drives either a touchdown or field goal with multiple turnovers.

You’re choosing team B...

I'm choosing the team that scores touchdowns instead of field goals. I know that answer shoots your latest attempt to ****, but that's my choice.

Touchdowns.

 

[Stash]

The whole write up was about the Falcons game.

Maybe you should read the post entirely before calling someone desperate.

Maybe you should have thought it through before you showed you were desperate? Now it's "about that Falcons game" while you're talking about Dak's "career record"?

You keep moving those goal posts, maybe at some point you'll make the kick.

 

[robjay04]

I'm choosing the team that scores touchdowns instead of field goals. I know that answer shoots your latest attempt to ****, but that's my choice.

Touchdowns.

It must really hurt your feelings to be proven wrong over and over again.

Cowboys had more net points per drive than either team.

Cowboys didn’t gift the other team multiple touchdowns.

Cowboys scored points on over half of their drives and turned the ball over zero times. Beast should’ve caught a touchdown that hit him in the hands. One of the other two field goals were a game winner.

Maybe you should have thought it through before you showed you were desperate? Now it's "about that Falcons game" while you're talking about Dak's "career record"?

You keep moving those goal posts, maybe at some point you'll make the kick.

This is another classic example of someone knowing their wrong so they pivot.

The original post was solely about the Falcons game. Someone mentioned wins...I commented towards Dak has won his fair share of games playing the style of offense we saw against the Falcons.

You literally said “if you’re talking about the last two games, I agree” after you brought up 5-5.

They were 2-0 the last 2 games?

So you agree they can win playing offense like this? Which is it? Or are you just denying my post is centered around the Falcons game. You’re all over the place and predictably, when you feel threatened, you resort to insults?

Anyways, I’m done posting here. You’re being very silly.

 

[Stash]

It must really hurt your feelings to be proven wrong over and over again.

Cowboys had more net points per drive than either team.

Cowboys didn’t gift the other team multiple touchdowns.

Cowboys scored points on over half of their drives and turned the ball over zero times. Beast should’ve caught a touchdown that hit him in the hands. One of the other two field goals were a game winner.

Chiefs and Rams scored touchdowns. 51 and 54 points. While this team struggles to pass for 200 yards or score 30 points. Again, you thump your chest about a .500 team that happened to string two wins together. And continue to look like a fool doing it

This is another classic example of someone knowing their wrong so they pivot.

The original post was solely about the Falcons game. Someone mentioned wins...I commented towards Dak has won his fair share of games playing the style of offense we saw against the Falcons.

You literally said “if you’re talking about the last two games, I agree” after you brought up 5-5.

They were 2-0 the last 2 games?

So you agree they can win playing offense like this? Which is it? Or are you just denying my post is centered around the Falcons game. You’re all over the place and predictably, when you feel threatened, you resort to insults?

Anyways, I’m done posting here. You’re being very silly.

Please be done. Like you should have before you came up with this mistake of a thread.

 

[CowboyRoy]

It's like comparing apples to oranges re: #9

A bit of context is required.

In 2012 the Cowboys' running game was the worst in team history. The defensive line was decimated by injuries. The current Cowboys defense is night and day compared to those of the other teams you mention. So I think it's fair to state that Romo had to do far too much through the air and didn't have much of a supporting cast.

I have not seen clear evidence of Prescott being able to win a game through the air. I haven't brought #9 into the argument but for those who want to judge him, well he had a running game in 2014 with a below average defense and averaged 70% passing completion, 34 touchdowns and 9 interceptions. In my view that is the level required at QB if we are to reach a Superbowl with this team. I'm not saying Romo should come back as that ship has sailed just that you look at the NFL these days and you simply need a QB who can win a game through the air - even Nick Foles was able to do this in the NFC Championship game and the Superbowl but then he had shown glimpses that he could do this in the past.

Drew Brees had a couple of seasons where he struggled until they fixed the O-Line, gave him a running game and some sort of defense.

The point is that Prescott has a lot of help, more than a lot of people claim - we have a very good defense and it was pretty good last season, the O-Line is still very good, the running game is excellent, he has had Bryant and now has Cooper as WR1. He should be producing quality week in and week out, he is in his third season now after all.

The Team was of a play off calibre last season but we didn't make the play offs and in my view that was mostly on the QB.

This is definitely a play off team this season at the bare minimum.

In case you didn't notice Prescott just won the game through the air. Driving the Cowboys down for the winning FG in a minute. Zeke wasn't even in the game for most of that drive until we were already in FG range. Dak was like 4-4 and right on the money on every throw.

 

[CowboyRoy]

It must really hurt your feelings to be proven wrong over and over again.

Cowboys had more net points per drive than either team.

Cowboys didn’t gift the other team multiple touchdowns.

Cowboys scored points on over half of their drives and turned the ball over zero times. Beast should’ve caught a touchdown that hit him in the hands. One of the other two field goals were a game winner.




This is another classic example of someone knowing their wrong so they pivot.

The original post was solely about the Falcons game. Someone mentioned wins...I commented towards Dak has won his fair share of games playing the style of offense we saw against the Falcons.

You literally said “if you’re talking about the last two games, I agree” after you brought up 5-5.

They were 2-0 the last 2 games?

So you agree they can win playing offense like this? Which is it? Or are you just denying my post is centered around the Falcons game. You’re all over the place and predictably, when you feel threatened, you resort to insults?

Anyways, I’m done posting here. You’re being very silly.

This is a run first offense built around Zeke and the Oline. Witten said it, Garrett has said it. IF anyone wonders why we don't throw the ball all over the field, its because it by design.

 

[Stash]

This is a run first offense built around Zeke and the Oline. Witten said it, Garrett has said it. IF anyone wonders why we don't throw the ball all over the field, its because it by design.

That's not close to true.

Nobody "designs" their passing game to rank 28th in the league.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst..._NET_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-n=1

 

[robjay04]

Chiefs and Rams scored touchdowns. 51 and 54 points. While this team struggles to pass for 200 yards or score 30 points. Again, you thump your chest about a .500 team that happened to string two wins together. And continue to look like a fool doing it




Please be done. Like you should have before you came up with this mistake of a thread.

Good job taking the points out of context when 5 touchdowns were scored entirely off of turnovers.

Ok I’m done I’m done. My chest is hurting a bit from the thumping.

 

[Stash]

Good job taking the points out of context when 5 touchdowns were scored entirely off of turnovers.

Ok I’m done I’m done. My chest is hurting a bit from the thumping.

 

[robjay04]

That's not close to true.

Nobody "designs" their passing game to rank 28th in the league.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categoryst..._NET_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-n=1

I can’t help myself.

But..

What exactly do you think this passing offense is designed to be when we are 30th in attempts?

Before you say something like “a team that’s hiding their crappy QB”...we were 31st in pass attempts in 2014, granted we were 16th in yards, better but still not impressive.

We were 30th in attempts in 2016, 23rd in yards. Season is still young but I think we can climb up the rankings.

This is an offense absolutely designed to be a bottom half of the league in passing yards given how few passing attempts we make compared to our peers.

I can say this is it but you never know about this guy.

 

[Stash]

I can’t help myself.

That's clear!

But..

What exactly do you think this passing offense is designed to be when we are 30th in attempts?

No passing offense is designed to be ranked 28th. In no way is that part of anyone's "plan"? While you're talking up the offense after they just traded away next year's first rounder, for A,ari Cooper, take the time to ask yourself why. Why, if this offense has been "by design" you just traded away next year's first rounder for a receiver. No, that move alone says none of this is "by design".

Before you say something like “a team that’s hiding their crappy QB”...we were 31st in pass attempts in 2014, granted we were 16th in yards, better but still not impressive.

We were 30th in attempts in 2016, 23rd in yards. Season is still young but I think we can climb up the rankings.

Define "climb"?

This is an offense absolutely designed to be a bottom half of the league in passing yards given how few passing attempts we make compared to our peers.

I can say this is it but you never know about this guy.

It's absolutely not "by design", it's by necessity. When you can't do something well but can do something else well, you rely on the part of the offense that is working. In this case, clearly the running game.

But any great offense strives for balance, not being one handed.

 

[shabazz]

Yup, the passing attack is a juggernaut and greatly feared by all

 

[Gator88]

I can’t help myself.

But..

What exactly do you think this passing offense is designed to be when we are 30th in attempts?

Before you say something like “a team that’s hiding their crappy QB”...we were 31st in pass attempts in 2014, granted we were 16th in yards, better but still not impressive.

We were 30th in attempts in 2016, 23rd in yards. Season is still young but I think we can climb up the rankings.

This is an offense absolutely designed to be a bottom half of the league in passing yards given how few passing attempts we make compared to our peers.

I can say this is it but you never know about this guy.

Romo was first in yards per attempt back in 2014 as well as 1st in completion %, Dak was 4th in YPA and completion % in 2016, and Dak is currently 25th in YPA and 21st in completion %. You can be ok being low in attempts if you are being really efficient, but that hasn't been close to the case this year (or really last year either).

 

[Swagger]

In case you didn't notice Prescott just won the game through the air. Driving the Cowboys down for the winning FG in a minute. Zeke wasn't even in the game for most of that drive until we were already in FG range. Dak was like 4-4 and right on the money on every throw.

The O-Line and Elliott won the game creating easy throws which even Brian Hoyer could make.

In reality Prescott left 10 points on the field in the first half.

Cooper made two huge plays from short throws to him when wide open.

Further the defense was incredible.

Understand football first before making such sweeping statements.

 

[Swagger]

With the schedule we have had, this team should be 10-1 or 9-2, 8-3 at the very worst.

6-5 is embarrassing.

When we draft a top safety we could have the best defense in the league.

As it stands we will probably scrape into the play offs before getting our *** handed to us because we didn't challenge for the #1 or 2 spot.

 

[CowboyRoy]

The O-Line and Elliott won the game creating easy throws which even Brian Hoyer could make.

In reality Prescott left 10 points on the field in the first half.

Cooper made two huge plays from short throws to him when wide open.

Further the defense was incredible.

Understand football first before making such sweeping statements.

You must really be having a hard time. LOL

Better Oline play and a real receiver and Dak is balling. And your reduced to sitting there with that dumb look on your face babbling excuses. LOL

2 passing TD's, 289 yards and another rushing TD. What is your excuse on that incredible play he made avoiding the rush and running it in for the TD? HE sucks eh?