Official: Cutler to Bears per NFLN...*Two 1sts and a 3rd*

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Unlike Romo's situation with TO (which TO was proven.)

Brandon Marshall made Cutler better and vice versa. Cutler will help make someone into a star.
 

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WoodysGirl;2715082 said:
Peter King > INSIDE THE NFL

Cutler might regret Denver exile

Jay Cutler has three people to blame for his trade from the most talented young offensive team in football to one of the least:

1. Jay Cutler.

2. Jay Cutler.

3. Jay Cutler.

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I'm pretty sure Cutler is happier today than he was a few days ago; still that Denver offense was impressive. Being a lifetime Bears fan, I suspect he's pretty excited....and he is going to the better team overall.
 

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dbair1967;2714993 said:
he also got away from a moron head coach

McDaniel is going to be a monumental flop...I bet he's canned within two yrs

Lovie will probably be canned in 1.

Shanahan already got canned because they couldn't win with Cutler in Denver.

This is like picking number 1 overall. You can NOT afford to be wrong, else it is a 5 year mistake.

You are going to have to pay Cutler big money sooner rather than later and you will miss those 1st rounders. All the NFL gives teams are draft picks. You take away the best of those and you have no other real means to compete for incoming talent.

Chicago hasn't had a great passing QB in 80 years because Chicago is about the least friendly place to pass the ball there is. IT is called the Windy City after all.

Factor in they do not even have a WR corps and well Cutler right now looks doomed to fail and take a GM and Coach with him as he does.
 

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jterrell;2715142 said:
Lovie will probably be canned in 1.

Shanahan already got canned because they couldn't win with Cutler in Denver.

This is like picking number 1 overall. You can NOT afford to be wrong, else it is a 5 year mistake.

You are going to have to pay Cutler big money sooner rather than later and you will miss those 1st rounders. All the NFL gives teams are draft picks. You take away the best of those and you have no other real means to compete for incoming talent.

Chicago hasn't had a great passing QB in 80 years because Chicago is about the least friendly place to pass the ball there is. IT is called the Windy City after all.

Factor in they do not even have a WR corps and well Cutler right now looks doomed to fail and take a GM and Coach with him as he does.

Little known fact, Chicago is called the Windy City because of it's political climate, not it's weather. ;)
 

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jterrell;2715142 said:
Lovie will probably be canned in 1.

Shanahan already got canned because they couldn't win with Cutler in Denver.

This is like picking number 1 overall. You can NOT afford to be wrong, else it is a 5 year mistake.

You are going to have to pay Cutler big money sooner rather than later and you will miss those 1st rounders. All the NFL gives teams are draft picks. You take away the best of those and you have no other real means to compete for incoming talent.

Chicago hasn't had a great passing QB in 80 years because Chicago is about the least friendly place to pass the ball there is. IT is called the Windy City after all.

Factor in they do not even have a WR corps and well Cutler right now looks doomed to fail and take a GM and Coach with him as he does.

Don't disagree with all this, but if you take a QB in the first round isn't that a 5 year risk if it doesn't hit? Much less the guaranteed money if you take one in the top 10. In my mind, Cutler is a proven Pro Bowl QB, and can't be totally held responsible for a bad Denver defense and playing wtih 7 different running backs last year.
 

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alancdc;2715151 said:
Don't disagree with all this, but if you take a QB in the first round isn't that a 5 year risk if it doesn't hit? Much less the guaranteed money if you take one in the top 10. In my mind, Cutler is a proven Pro Bowl QB, and can't be totally held responsible for a bad Denver defense and playing wtih 7 different running backs last year.

Chicago has already wasted time and 1st rd picks with the likes of Cade McNown and Rex Grossman as well a 4th on Orton and taking the likes of Hutchinson in FA over the last few years. Cutler brings to the table a known quality and is still a young enough QB to have an impact in Chicago for years to come
 

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Doomsday101;2715153 said:
Chicago has already wasted time and 1st rd picks with the likes of Cade McNown and Rex Grossman as well a 4th on Orton and taking the likes of Hutchinson in FA over the last few years. Cutler brings to the table a known quality and is still a young enough QB to have an impact in Chicago for years to come

He's a franchise QB, with all the trouble the Bears have had going back and forth between Orton and Grossman, I'm surprised anyone can see this as not a great step for them.

Especially since around here no one feels the need to question what we gave up for Roy and goes out of their way to justify it as just a 1st rounder.

What were they going to find in the 1st round this year or the next that's better than a franchise QB?
 

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This trade is pretty fair to both sides. Chicago desperately needed a QB and Denver has a lot of holes ON D that need to be plugged. Orton is a decent QB who will give Denver time to find a real QB.
 
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TheCount;2715159 said:
He's a franchise QB, with all the trouble the Bears have had going back and forth between Orton and Grossman, I'm surprised anyone can see this as not a great step for them.

Especially since around here no one feels the need to question what we gave up for Roy and goes out of their way to justify it as just a 1st rounder.

What were they going to find in the 1st round this year or the next that's better than a franchise QB?


Chicago will end up making McDaniels and Bowlen look stupid when its all said and done. They stole an Elway-esque player for an Anthony Spencer and Bobby Carpenter.
 

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TheCount;2715159 said:
He's a franchise QB, with all the trouble the Bears have had going back and forth between Orton and Grossman, I'm surprised anyone can see this as not a great step for them.

Especially since around here no one feels the need to question what we gave up for Roy and goes out of their way to justify it as just a 1st rounder.

What were they going to find in the 1st round this year or the next that's better than a franchise QB?

True. If the object of the game is winning then the Bears helped themselfs out quite a bit. You select players in the draft to better your team Cutler betters their team alot with much less risk than a draft pick which no one knows if any rookie will pan out or not. Bears have been trying for years to come up with a QB and have failed in the meantime they still have one of the better defenses in the league and this trade just made the offense much better than before.
 

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Doomsday101;2715153 said:
Chicago has already wasted time and 1st rd picks with the likes of Cade McNown and Rex Grossman as well a 4th on Orton and taking the likes of Hutchinson in FA over the last few years. Cutler brings to the table a known quality and is still a young enough QB to have an impact in Chicago for years to come


I think we were on the same page on this.
 

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TheCount;2715149 said:
Little known fact, Chicago is called the Windy City because of it's political climate, not it's weather. ;)

I thought it was because of their unusually high consumption of beans....
 

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Jay Cutler has three people to blame for his trade from the most talented young offensive team in football to one of the least:

1. Jay Cutler.

2. Jay Cutler.

3. Jay Cutler.

Translation: I'll suck up to my New England- and Bill Belichick-associated guy Josh McDaniels even though he's never coached a game in this league rather than the surfer-looking Vanderbilt kid I don't know.
 

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I think it's worth the risk for Chicago. They were going nowhere as currently constitued.

On the other hand, I can see Denver's decision. Cutler has type 1 diabetes, and from what I've heard on the radio the last few days, a real problem with drinking.
 

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McCordsville Cowboy;2715175 said:
Chicago will end up making McDaniels and Bowlen look stupid when its all said and done. They stole an Elway-esque player for an Anthony Spencer and Bobby Carpenter.


Maybe. They paid a premium. Ideally, you'd trust your scouting to land good starting quality players in the 1st round (and not the Spencer/Carpenter types like you listed).
 

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Cutler, Ron Turner Have Rocky History
Posted by Aaron Wilson on April 3, 2009, 12:47 p.m.

Newly-acquired Chicago Bears quarterback Jay Cutler is known for holding a grudge, and he still seems to be holding one against Bears offensive coordinator Ron Turner stemming from an old recruiting dispute, according to Brad Biggs of the Chicago Sun-Times.

Citing people close to Cutler and a Denver Post column, some fences may need to be mended between Cutler and Turner now that they’re going to work together.

As a high school senior in southern Indiana, Cutler accepted a scholarship to Illinois where Turner was the head coach at the time. Cutler committed without visiting campus, though, and when he arrived for an official visit Turner reportedly pulled the offer.

“When Jay went for his official visit, the coach told him they were rescinding the offer because they had some hot-shot quarterback from California,” Heritage Hills athletic director Jay Burch told Denver Post columnist Woody Paige.

Illinois wound up signing Mike Dlugolecki, who wound up transferring to San Diego State. And Cutler had turned down offers from Purdue, Duke and Maryland to go to Illinois before winding up at Vanderbilt.

“It’s not right,” Jake Cutler, Cutler’s father, told ESPN.com. “I still have a bitter taste in my mouth.”

In the past, Turner has denied that Illinois rescinded the scholarship offer because Cutler was never made an offer.

Obviously, they’ll need to rehearse their lines a bit before the press conference today.
 

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McCordsville Cowboy;2714994 said:
Carr has a noodle and throws like a woman.

That is completely inaccurate.

David Carr had a very strong arm and was very mobile.

He was an easy selection as #1 overall when he came out. But he went to a crap team, got beat up behind the worst line in the league and fell apart mentally.
 

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WoodysGirl;2715381 said:
Cutler, Ron Turner Have Rocky History
Posted by Aaron Wilson on April 3, 2009, 12:47 p.m.

Newly-acquired Chicago Bears quarterback Jay Cutler is known for holding a grudge, and he still seems to be holding one against Bears offensive coordinator Ron Turner stemming from an old recruiting dispute, according to Brad Biggs of the Chicago Sun-Times.

Citing people close to Cutler and a Denver Post column, some fences may need to be mended between Cutler and Turner now that they’re going to work together.

As a high school senior in southern Indiana, Cutler accepted a scholarship to Illinois where Turner was the head coach at the time. Cutler committed without visiting campus, though, and when he arrived for an official visit Turner reportedly pulled the offer.

“When Jay went for his official visit, the coach told him they were rescinding the offer because they had some hot-shot quarterback from California,” Heritage Hills athletic director Jay Burch told Denver Post columnist Woody Paige.

Illinois wound up signing Mike Dlugolecki, who wound up transferring to San Diego State. And Cutler had turned down offers from Purdue, Duke and Maryland to go to Illinois before winding up at Vanderbilt.

“It’s not right,” Jake Cutler, Cutler’s father, told ESPN.com. “I still have a bitter taste in my mouth.”

In the past, Turner has denied that Illinois rescinded the scholarship offer because Cutler was never made an offer.

Obviously, they’ll need to rehearse their lines a bit before the press conference today.

hahahahahaha awesome.

could Cutler be anymore T.O.???
 
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