Offseason musing. What would you take for Dak?

phildadon86

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It's about the level of logic one should expect from Dak slobberers who think we have a "franchise" QB after just one year with 0 playoff wins...
You are right, our franchise qb with 2 wins in 10 years has a much better argument. Get real. Im not a dak slobberer, I just dont see the point in trading our future away for picks that we may or may not hit on when he have already hit.
 

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Thats about the dumbest analogy I've ever heard. Take a breather lol
Really? Its a bad analogy? So tell me, how many first round QBs are fairing well in this league that costed a premium to get compared to QBs drafted in later rounds. That goes for any player. First round busts happen, so as i said, its a lottery ticket, you really never have any idea.
 

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You are right, our franchise qb with 2 wins in 10 years has a much better argument. Get real. Im not a dak slobberer, I just dont see the point in trading our future away for picks that we may or may not hit on when he have already hit.
Romo is a franchise QB literally by definition... he's been a QB on the same team for 13 years now. I don't know how much easier it can get to see that.

They have not "hit" on anything... they found a QB in the 4th round who if you give him 4 first team all-pros, one of the worst schedules in the league, and a bunch of bootlegs, half-field reads and wide open throws to Cole Beasley... can win some regular season games and then go one and done. That doesn't sound like a franchise QB to anyone with a brain.

I agree that I would not trade him for anything that anyone would conceivably offer for him because it wouldn't make sense. But lets not get carried away. If someone were insane enough to offer 3 first round picks or more for him I would do it so fast it would make your head spin. In reality, no one would offer offer even one first anyway.
 

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You are right, our franchise qb with 2 wins in 10 years has a much better argument.
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Romo is a franchise QB literally by definition... he's been a QB on the same team for 13 years now. I don't know how much easier it can get to see that.

They have not "hit" on anything... they found a QB in the 4th round who if you give him 4 first team all-pros, one of the worst schedules in the league, and a bunch of bootlegs, half-field reads and wide open throws to Cole Beasley... can win some regular season games and then go one and done. That doesn't sound like a franchise QB to anyone with a brain.

I agree that I would not trade him for anything that anyone would conceivably offer for him because it wouldn't make sense. But lets not get carried away. If someone were insane enough to offer 3 first round picks or more for him I would do it so fast it would make your head spin. In reality, no one would offer offer even one first anyway.
You would be a horrible gm.
 

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What would I take for Dak?


If he was hungry and I was by a Wendy's.... I would buy 4 double baconators and "take" them to Dak.... two "for" Dak and two for me.
 

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Romo is a franchise QB literally by definition... he's been a QB on the same team for 13 years now. I don't know how much easier it can get to see that.

They have not "hit" on anything... they found a QB in the 4th round who if you give him 4 first team all-pros, one of the worst schedules in the league, and a bunch of bootlegs, half-field reads and wide open throws to Cole Beasley... can win some regular season games and then go one and done. That doesn't sound like a franchise QB to anyone with a brain.

I agree that I would not trade him for anything that anyone would conceivably offer for him because it wouldn't make sense. But lets not get carried away. If someone were insane enough to offer 3 first round picks or more for him I would do it so fast it would make your head spin. In reality, no one would offer offer even one first anyway.
Yet, you ignored my original premise of the fact the guy you are all in on has 2, count them TWO playoff wins. Thats 2 more than Dak with how many more years? Come on dude. I love Romo, but bringing up playoff wins is a really bad argument considering Dak has 0 in one season, and Tony has 2 in 13.
 

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Romo is a franchise QB literally by definition... he's been a QB on the same team for 13 years now. I don't know how much easier it can get to see that.

They have not "hit" on anything... they found a QB in the 4th round who if you give him 4 first team all-pros, one of the worst schedules in the league, and a bunch of bootlegs, half-field reads and wide open throws to Cole Beasley... can win some regular season games and then go one and done. That doesn't sound like a franchise QB to anyone with a brain.

I agree that I would not trade him for anything that anyone would conceivably offer for him because it wouldn't make sense. But lets not get carried away. If someone were insane enough to offer 3 first round picks or more for him I would do it so fast it would make your head spin. In reality, no one would offer offer even one first anyway.
They just found a QB who somehow managed to beat every single rookie QB record in NFL history. You are right. They havent hit on anything.
 

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Yet, you ignored my original premise of the fact the guy you are all in on has 2, count them TWO playoff wins. Thats 2 more than Dak with how many more years? Come on dude. I love Romo, but bringing up playoff wins is a really bad argument considering Dak has 0 in one season, and Tony has 2 in 13.
I didn't ignore anything, it was irrelevant. Romo is a franchise QB, Dak is not. If Dak is still the QB in 10 years, clearly he will be a franchise QB even if he has yet to win a playoff game. It's not rocket science.
 

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They just found a QB who somehow managed to beat every single rookie QB record in NFL history. You are right. They havent hit on anything.
Every record? Now Dak slobberers are reduced to lying for their phony claims?

In twelve months, I'm going to be laughing in your face.
 

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You would be a horrible gm.
And let's just get it out of the way, I would suck to, but I'm smart enough to hold on to that winning lottery ticket, what the hell has Dak have to do get respect? And don't say playoffs, for the love of God. He was amazing this year, and there is only room for him to get better.
 

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And let's just get it out of the way, I would suck to, but I'm smart enough to hold on to that winning lottery ticket, what the hell has Dak have to do get respect? And don't say playoffs, for the love of God. He was amazing this year, and there is only room for him to get better.
I agree... you'd be a horrible gm.
 

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Every record? Now Dak slobberers are reduced to lying for their phony claims?

In twelve months, I'm going to be laughing in your face.
All the ones that matter. Would you like me to reference them for you? Im not lying. It actually happened, you may have been to busy sitting in your Romo jersey crying in a corner replaying watching him on the sideline with a clipboard. But hey, to each his own.
 

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In my opinion, it is equally unfair labeling Romo and Prescott with playoff records that their teammates (e.g. the team) were primarily responsible for producing (or not producing in a better sense). That said, let's stop, look and consider winning percentage formula, which is:

Total Wins divided by Total Games Played ( Wins / Games = % )
I'm not blaming Prescott for how last season ended but is it really smart for anyone to base any personal Prescott Over Romo argument using winning percentage formula as the qualifier? If yes, I have two questions. First, do you understand what Romo and Prescott's playoff winning percentages are? And second, do you understand which percentage is greater than the other and which percentage is less than the other?
 

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I've seen lots of threads talking about how much we can get for Romo. I've seen threads talking about trading up in the draft. Even seen a few posts joking/talking about trading Dak.

Here's my question, what would you take to actually trade Dak away and roll forward with Romo? Start the search for yet another back-up?

For me, I won't say "never," but I just wouldn't. Cleveland's first for the next few years and I'd get interested, but probably not even then.

What about you?
Nothing. Not anything
 

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All the ones that matter. Would you like me to reference them for you? Im not lying. It actually happened, you may have been to busy sitting in your Romo jersey crying in a corner replaying watching him on the sideline with a clipboard. But hey, to each his own.
I can't think of a single "record" that he broke that isn't just a sign of the times, outside of ESPN's QBR, which is actually adjusted for time period. Unfortuately QBR only goes back about 10 years, so we have no idea what Marino, Roethlisberger, Manning, etc. would have scored. Every other "record" he broke is simply because of the era he plays in, it would be like saying Steph Curry is a better three point shooter than Larry Bird because he makes more threes in a month than Bird did in a season.
 

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I can't think of a single "record" that he broke that isn't just a sign of the times, outside of ESPN's QBR, which is actually adjusted for time period. Unfortuately QBR only goes back about 10 years, so we have no idea what Marino, Roethlisberger, Manning, etc. would have scored. Every other "record" he broke is simply because of the era he plays in, it would be like saying Steph Curry is a better three point shooter than Larry Bird because he makes more threes in a month than Bird did in a season.
Prescott has the best completion percentage (67.8), TD-INT ratio (23-4), and passer rating (104.9) by any rookie quarterback in NFL history......Oh and he tied ben for wins. No QBR in there.
 

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Prescott has the best completion percentage (67.8), TD-INT ratio (23-4), and passer rating (104.9) by any rookie quarterback in NFL history......Oh and he tied ben for wins. No QBR in there.
You missed the point... QBR is the only legitimate record he has. The others are unimpressive. And "wins" isn't even a real stat. So yes, he broke a couple of "records" that were just broken 4 years ago have been trending up for the last 60 years and that will probably be the baseline rookie performance in 10 years. Here's a cookie for you and Dak.
 

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Really? Its a bad analogy?

Yes it's a terrible analogy. You have blinders on, you're so emotionally attached to your favorite player Dak Prescott that you fail to see what other are saying because you're so upset, it's called a tantrum. If we pick up 3-4 1st round picks on defense (picks #1,12,28,33) plus add Jaylon Smith we're playing for the Superbowl in 2017/2018 with Tony Romo. Hell we could bring in Trent Dilfer from the booth to win it all.

We aren't winning **** with this defense, IDC who the QB is. With that said I like Dak and I believe Dak will be here, but we are talking about the other side of the coin right now. The other side has something to do with the fact Tony Romo may have 3-4 years left in this league and Dak has tremendous trade value.
 
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