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egn22

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Because he just turned 25. And he is a 3 down RB. A short yardage back. He is Demarco Murray. McFadden is a 3rd down back. He did good but he did good because the guy had holes you can drive a semi through.

DMC is bigger faster and cheaper and just ran for 1,000 yards in an anemic offense without Romo or Dez.
I just can't see why we'd spend in FA on Lamar Miller who's never proven he could be the bellcow Demarco was.
 

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DMC is bigger faster and cheaper and just ran for 1,000 yards in an anemic offense without Romo or Dez.
I just can't see why we'd spend in FA on Lamar Miller who's never proven he could be the bellcow Demarco was.

What RB other than Peterson and Beastmode can claim that?

MIami just didnt want to run the ball.

Lamar Miller 194 carries 894 yrds 8tds 47 rec 397 yrds 2 tds
Darren McFadden 239 carries 1008 yrds 3 tds 40 rec 328 yrds 0 tds

Its a results beatdown for me. 10tds to 3 with less touches. Miller behind this OL is a nightmare and he can sign a 4 yr deal and likely plays all 4 yrs in Dallas
 

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What RB other than Peterson and Beastmode can claim that?

MIami just didnt want to run the ball.

Lamar Miller 194 carries 894 yrds 8tds 47 rec 397 yrds 2 tds
Darren McFadden 239 carries 1008 yrds 3 tds 40 rec 328 yrds 0 tds

Its a results beatdown for me. 10tds to 3 with less touches. Miller behind this OL is a nightmare and he can sign a 4 yr deal and likely plays all 4 yrs in Dallas

If there was no cap I'd agree with you, but with DMC avail cheap and with several teams in the league proving you can find a strong RB in the draft, I'd strongly prefer drafting one.
Agree to disagree. I understand where you're coming from, it's just not my preferred strategy.
 

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I'd rather just draft an RB in the 3rd/4th round. No need to give a guy like miller 4/5 million a year when we could use that money toward something better. Heck if McFadden starts 16 games he's a 1400 rusher next year.
 

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If there was no cap I'd agree with you, but with DMC avail cheap and with several teams in the league proving you can find a strong RB in the draft, I'd strongly prefer drafting one.
Agree to disagree. I understand where you're coming from, it's just not my preferred strategy.

There it is. You just settled for less because of the money. DAL has plenty of cap space to spend. We don't have to settle.
 

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I also do not think Hardy is going to demand a large, long term contract on the market. He has been a distraction this season, he is a PR headache and on paper, he wasn't that productive. His best bet would be to sign another 1 year deal to build up some value. Keep his head on straight like he did the last month of the season and be more productive.

He was a distraction before the season came out saying, "I want to come out with guns blazing." Why that is an issue in Texas of all places amuses me. He then during Patriots week in like week 5 or something said that Gisselle Brady was hot. She is a supermodel so I don't really see the problem.

The distraction is the media and I don't think outside influences should dictate policy. Hardy didn't do anything actually wrong but he has a nation looking for a reason.
 

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Think some changes will be made but not too many if you ask me. Starting with cuts.
Brandon Carr: some say June 1 cut but his savings are big and his cap hit isnt huge. Dallas gains 6.34 mil to cut him outright.
Barry Church: I'd say keep the least expensive between he and Wilcox. Dallas gains 2.5 mil
Terrell McClain: like him but he just cant stay healthy. Dallas gains 1mil

2 players free up almost 10mil in cap room. with the cap for 2016 already projected to be over 150mil im going to say around 153, according to spotrac right now Dallas has 10.7mil in cap rolling over to 2016.

Roll over 10.7mil
Cap space 2016 9.55 mil
Cuts 9.84 mil
30.09mil in cap room

Thats alot of cap room especially when you dont have any big FAs to resign. Which could if they wanted to make it easier to resign Hardy. IDK if the team really wants him back tho. I think they will try to resign him cheap but i dont think he will sign for cheap and he shouldnt.

Me personally i like what the Cowboys do now. They've built the team through the draft. Continue to do that, fill a hole here and there with a FA but dont pay retail when you can get wholesale in the draft. Keep adding these role players in FA. Low contract guys wh play a part, and build the core with the draft. Unless there is a player who will greatly improve this team and is young. Here is where that rookie contract situation comes into play. Players are now becoming UFA younger because of that expensive option yr for first round picks. Like this yr.

Muhammad Wilkerson DL(26) would immediately improve this DL. He's a DE could he move inside?
Eric Berry S(27) all heart but Cheifs would never let him walk. Fans would crucify that team.
Janoris Jenkins CB(27) gonna be really expensive dont think they would go that route again.
Lamar Miller RB(25) This is the one i can see the team doing. Off yr but still productive. Perfect fit IMO

I think the two that would help this team out the most if MIller and Wilkerson, but Wilkerson is going to get a huge contract. I dont think this team would invest that much especially after giving Crawford that big deal and a Deal coming for Lawrence soon. Miller on the other hand plays RB, hes not going to break any banks either. In him you get a proven young vet who can help right away. But the price will be more then the cost of a rookie. But a posistion that is vital to this teams success do you pay more for a proven commodity? I think you do.

QB posistion Moore played really good vs washington. Well he did when Washingtons secondary all got hurt. But IDK if i would trust him ging forward. Team now have film on him and you can bet next yr if he's forced to play team are going to jump them long throws to the outside. His throws are in the air for a long time. Thats a scary thought. So i think this team just needs to get better at QB. RG3, Manziel, or Kaepernick...I wouldnt hate or like the pickup, but i think it would be an improvement of whats backing up Romo now.

Robert Griffin just hasnt been healthy the past 2 yrs. You can see it with his movement. He has the tools to be a good QB in this league he showed this before. But when youre just not healthy alot can look bad, and it has looked bad. Think too you had a case of the HC just not wanting him at QB. Gruden you can tell just didnt want RG at QB for him. If there was a QB in FA i think he might be the best guy for Dallas. Because of just the overall talent he has and has showed before the injuries. His situation reminds me of Colombo.

Good write up !!! Bye Carr !!!
 

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There it is. You just settled for less because of the money. DAL has plenty of cap space to spend. We don't have to settle.

how much less am I really settling for though? My initial argument was that we have quality with DMC and we can find more quality in the draft. On top of all of that it would save us money.
if you just wanna blow cash anywhere than fine but I'm not gonna ignore the money when there's a cap to be aware of. We've been down that road before
 

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I'd rather just draft an RB in the 3rd/4th round. No need to give a guy like miller 4/5 million a year when we could use that money toward something better. Heck if McFadden starts 16 games he's a 1400 rusher next year.

Sooner or later you're gonna have to start paying guys like Tfred and Zack Martin. Forget investing in RB when you have a solid RB and draft picks
 

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What RB other than Peterson and Beastmode can claim that?

MIami just didnt want to run the ball.

Lamar Miller 194 carries 894 yrds 8tds 47 rec 397 yrds 2 tds
Darren McFadden 239 carries 1008 yrds 3 tds 40 rec 328 yrds 0 tds

Its a results beatdown for me. 10tds to 3 with less touches. Miller behind this OL is a nightmare and he can sign a 4 yr deal and likely plays all 4 yrs in Dallas

What about Elliott ???
 

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I was a fan of church but his game seems to have regressed. He's not the sure tackler anymore and he's never been a cover guy. You have this same kind of liability with Wilcox. Same player same mistakes. I keep the cheaper of the two for special teams.

Same...

I always thought Church was undervalued but he looked horrible this year.
 

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Because he just turned 25. And he is a 3 down RB. A short yardage back. He is Demarco Murray. McFadden is a 3rd down back. He did good but he did good because the guy had holes you can drive a semi through. And Dallas wouldnt have to spend big. Hes not getting anything over 4-5 mil a yr.

Alex Collinsssss
 

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What about Elliott ???

Elliot would be great, but in all honesty, Dallas has too many holes to fill. I can't see spending the number four pick up on a running back, and he won't be there when the second round rolls around.
 

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Elliot would be great, but in all honesty, Dallas has too many holes to fill. I can't see spending the number four pick up on a running back, and he won't be there when the second round rolls around.

But look at the Vikings, lots of payback for getting their RB !!! A solid investment !!!!
 

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I was a fan of church but his game seems to have regressed. He's not the sure tackler anymore and he's never been a cover guy. You have this same kind of liability with Wilcox. Same player same mistakes. I keep the cheaper of the two for special teams.

wilcox is nothing like the Church. Church takes proper angles 75% of the time and may get juked out of **** shoes 2-3 times a year. Wilcox never takes good angles and shoulder tackles. I cut wilcox and pay church a little more money.
 

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Sooner or later you're gonna have to start paying guys like Tfred and Zack Martin. Forget investing in RB when you have a solid RB and draft picks

By the time you have to pay those guys a RB like Murray would have been gone.

That is a bogus argument. But you have to draft a RB if want to go the cheap route.

You can't settle for the 28 year old, oft injured, never starred RB.

1100 yards and 3 TDs is nothing to be proud of behind this OL.
 

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By the time you have to pay those guys a RB like Murray would have been gone.

That is a bogus argument. But you have to draft a RB if want to go the cheap route.

You can't settle for the 28 year old, oft injured, never starred RB.

1100 yards and 3 TDs is nothing to be proud of behind this OL.

By the time I pay those guys a RB like Murray will be gone? What does that mean?

I never said settle, I said draft.

1100 yards rushing was top half of the league. He was the best part of our sorry offense. It's not his fault he couldn't do more without Romo or Dez.
 

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We already have a 1,000yard rusher who's only 28. Why spend big on Lamar Miller when you can just draft a backup RB?
id sign RGIII, trade back in the draft for extra picks and address all of the holes on the roster (CB, DT, RB)
Wouldn't pay any FA DLs other than Hardy. And no FA LBs other than McClain. This is a good defense it just needs a few more pieces to make it complete.

The guy just completed his most healthy and productive season of his career. Sorry, but Im not willing to bet on him doing 2 years in a row without some serious insurance. Miller is very good and his best years are in front of him. He was quite possibly used worse than Murray this season. Dan Campbell should of rode his horse at least 20 carries a game.
 

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I would like to see him and Miller though. Church is a guy I think you want on your team.:huh:

Keep Brandon.:omg: though it wont surprise me if it happens

I like Kap. :facepalm:

Sorry JB, Id take RG3 or JFB over Kap and I dont want the first 2.
 

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I was a fan of church but his game seems to have regressed. He's not the sure tackler anymore and he's never been a cover guy. You have this same kind of liability with Wilcox. Same player same mistakes. I keep the cheaper of the two for special teams.

Do you think Church regressed because of being teamed up with Wilcox in the back field?......I think a Church and Jones combo will yield better results then a Church Wilcox duo..... Bring them both back and give them a chance to compete in training camp...expect Wilcox role to be reduced to more special teams then safety....IMO Barry Church had a bad year,,,,,due to injuries (no OSCAN)...lack of quality or trust in the DB's forced him to over compensate....

IMO
I bring Church and Wilcox back to compete for SS
Jones is a lock at FS
Carr is an average CB with a high cap number but he stays healthy and knows the system......re-do his contract and
bring him back or sign Trumain Johnson of the Rams.
Wilkerson will be a SPLASH signing....that will drastically improve the DL
NO to RG3 an NO JF (don't need the drama....sign Nick Foles or Chad Henne and draft a future franchise QB)

RG3 is a posion pill that I dont tink ROMO would like to see on the roster....I remember the entittled RG3 giving Romo pitty comments after the Commanders beat the Cowboys to make the playoffs his rookie year....then the #1 reason.... he is a COACH Killer that turned the Commanders franchise upside down...history repeats itself....no way do I want anything to do with a washed up entitled QB.

In the famous words of Mike SIngletary
"It is more about them than it is about the team. Cannot play with them, cannot win with them, cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win."
 
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