Offseason thoughts

[JoeBoBBY]

Sorry JB, Id take RG3 or JFB over Kap and I dont want the first 2.

I dont think Church is "the guy", but I think he is a good role player.

RGMe is worthless at this point. Maybe when he could run, but I think the NFL figured that out pretty quick.....thats all he has is his running ability. And he doesnt seem to be maturing....

Johnny football wants to be a celebrity.

I think Kap is worth a look-see.... but I go ahead and draft a QB too....

I dunno....? Maybe - maybe not. Buts thats my 2 cents. Its all I got.

 

[rpntex]

Do you think Church regressed because of being teamed up with Wilcox in the back field?......I think a Church and Jones combo will yield better results then a Church Wilcox duo..... Bring them both back and give them a chance to compete in training camp...expect Wilcox role to be reduced to more special teams then safety....IMO Barry Church had a bad year,,,,,due to injuries (no OSCAN)...lack of quality or trust in the DB's forced him to over compensate....

IMO
I bring Church and Wilcox back to compete for SS
Jones is a lock at FS
Carr is an average CB with a high cap number but he stays healthy and knows the system......re-do his contract and
bring him back or sign Trumain Johnson of the Rams.
Wilkerson will be a SPLASH signing....that will drastically improve the DL
NO to RG3 an NO JF (don't need the drama....sign Nick Foles or Chad Henne and draft a future franchise QB)

RG3 is a posion pill that I dont tink ROMO would like to see on the roster....I remember the entittled RG3 giving Romo pitty comments after the Commanders beat the Cowboys to make the playoffs his rookie year....then the #1 reason.... he is a COACH Killer that turned the Commanders franchise upside down...history repeats itself....no way do I want anything to do with a washed up entitled QB.

In the famous words of Mike SIngletary
"It is more about them than it is about the team. Cannot play with them, cannot win with them, cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win."

I, for one, wouldn't have a problem with kicking the tires on RG3 - if Dallas can get him cheap (non-trade route...strictly released where he can be signed for the vet minimum).

He was told, back at the end of camp "you're gonna be #3, you're not going to play, and what's more, you're probably going to be inactive" (to paraphrase). To his credit, he was a model teammate. I know his history has been anything but that, but this year, he's been exactly that. He could have taken off to Vegas a few times, but if he did, the DC media sure kept it quiet. Does that mean he's actually learned something, or is it a big act? Who knows, but it's worth taking a look. First screw up, and he's done.

Manziel is a different story. He's not shown that he's learned anything. I don't want him anywhere near Dallas.

Given my choice, however, I would still rather have one of the top four QBs available in the draft (Goff, Lynch, Cook, or Wentz). Let Moore have the backup role until the rookie is ready, then ease him into the backup.

 

[Cumart21]

Hardy has not been a distraction for his team as much as the media continually attempted to manufacture controversies on his behalf. He didn't play lights out game-in game-out but was a solid contributor of a defensive line that pressured opposing quarterbacks much more often this season than during it's playoff run in 2014. I'm confident that the the front office can offer him a contract that satisfies both Hardy and the team. The only question is whether he'll sign it.

Please stop making sense around here.

 

[Bullflop]

I'd like to see Dallas take a good RB to team with DMC in the upcoming draft. Here's also hoping Wade Wilson is fired if we're to groom another QB adequately. Carr really needs to accept a salary reduction if he's destined to stay. He's not nearly worth the time and expense of his contract unless it's greatly reduced. We need to move on from Mo, in my opinion. He's too fragile. Give me Kap over RGIII any day -- at least, he's seemingly got something reasonably tangible to work with.

 

[therock1982]

Trumain Johnson !!

I like tj aswell,my only concern is price.same kinda boat as when we signed care,tj is a number 2 corner really.so don't really wanna be paying more than 6mill a year for him,but adding him and Gipson would open the draft right up for us

 

[visionary]

He was a distraction before the season came out saying, "I want to come out with guns blazing." Why that is an issue in Texas of all places amuses me. He then during Patriots week in like week 5 or something said that Gisselle Brady was hot. She is a supermodel so I don't really see the problem.

The distraction is the media and I don't think outside influences should dictate policy. Hardy didn't do anything actually wrong but he has a nation looking for a reason.

This comment is either completely ignorant or disingenuous

Reading this stuff coming from your high and mighty POV is what makes your posts so entertaining

 

[Sarge]

Lamar Miller didn't have an off year. They simply didn't use him or give him a chance. It was mind boggling quite frankly.

 

[Alexander]

Lamar Miller didn't have an off year. They simply didn't use him or give him a chance. It was mind boggling quite frankly.

Very underutilized. Want.

 

[visionary]

Hardy has not been a distraction for his team as much as the media continually attempted to manufacture controversies on his behalf. He didn't play lights out game-in game-out but was a solid contributor of a defensive line that pressured opposing quarterbacks much more often this season than during it's playoff run in 2014. I'm confident that the the front office can offer him a contract that satisfies both Hardy and the team. The only question is whether he'll sign it.

How do you reconcile this opinion with reports that not only was he a distraction where garret had to have several meetings with him (and we all saw his sideline physical altercation with the coach), but that he was continuously tardy to meetings and lost the support of many team mates

This team under jerry and Jason has had issues with discipline and accountability and Hardy feeds right into it

The media may have an agenda but they also have contacts inside the team and the locker room. So if you say they are wrong, what is your basis for saying that other than wishful thinking?

 

[JoeBoBBY]

How do you reconcile this opinion with reports that not only was he a distraction where garret had to have several meetings with him (and we all saw his sideline physical altercation with the coach), but that he was continuously tardy to meetings and lost the support of many team mates

This team under jerry and Jason has had issues with discipline and accountability and Hardy feeds right into it

The media may have an agenda but they also have contacts inside the team and the locker room. So if you say they are wrong, what is your basis for saying that other than wishful thinking?

I like Hardys talent. And the team needs Talent.

But my desire to change the culture around this Cowboys franchise and not cater to players is strong. And although I questioned them letting DM go, I htought that desire to shift focus away from players to management and organization and salary cap played into making that decision with DM.

So when I see Hardy knocking a clipboard out of the coahces hand, I wonder exactly whats going on? I dont care how passionate you are, how fired up you are........................ dont touch the coach. dont knock the playbook out of his freaking hands.......I wouldve been done with him right then and there.

Having said that; People make mistakes, people can mature, the Dallas Cowboys desperatley need talent. As long as were giving Jason Garrett another chance, I think Hardy should get one too..............................

But these guys, this model. Has one more year. They better win.........................

 

[John813]

Lamar Miller didn't have an off year. They simply didn't use him or give him a chance. It was mind boggling quite frankly.

Well, Lazor had the same mindset of Chip Kelly and was arrogant.

Some games, the Dolphins abandoned the run because they just lacked the push from the interior to get anything going. They really needed Collins lol. Teams with a solid front 7, could just blow up the LOS, and int the second half they would be down, which made them pass it more.

Leary and Bernadeau would be huge upgrades to their guard positions. The Dolphins are in that funk we were in a decade ago, drafting awful offensive linemen with no redeemable qualities, sans J. James their RT.

Other games, I have no clue why D. Williams even got a snap, considering Miller and Ajayi are better running backs than him.

Good thing about Miller is that he excelled in a ZBS, so over here it would be the same scheme, but behind a great line.

My feeling is that he wants to stay in Miami though. Local boy, and I think depending on who they hire, he could bounce or re-sign.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

What RB other than Peterson and Beastmode can claim that?

MIami just didnt want to run the ball.

Lamar Miller 194 carries 894 yrds 8tds 47 rec 397 yrds 2 tds
Darren McFadden 239 carries 1008 yrds 3 tds 40 rec 328 yrds 0 tds

Its a results beatdown for me. 10tds to 3 with less touches. Miller behind this OL is a nightmare and he can sign a 4 yr deal and likely plays all 4 yrs in Dallas

I'm not saying Miller would not have scored more than 3 TDs here, or even McFadden would have 10 TDs in Miami, but those number can be misleading. We consistently struggled to get deep enough in the redzone, where most backs score TDs. Miller may have had more here, but I can confidently say it would not have been 10.

 

[jazzcat22]

I am at a crossroads of sorts with Hardy and McClain. Mostly I want both of them back. But also part of me says, they weren't that huge of an impact. but for various reasons too.

McClain wasn't as big of an impact this year, like he was last year. And this was with a year being back on the field. But missing TC again, didn't help.
Hardy wasn't the impact player like we all hoped, but he too was coming back from missing a year. So would he improve next year or just be ok like McClain.

However, if either moves on and becomes that player we all hoped they would, and especially if on a NFCE team. The rue will begin...lol...
I am more inclined to sign them, knowing they can be very solid if not finally better, like we hoped.
I'll be happy if we sign them, but if not, can't do anything about it anyway.

As for Church and Wilcox, I am for keeping both. With Jones as a true FS, this allows either one to be a true SS, and play up in the box more. The other will be depth at backup. Jones and Garrett both said this last spring after the draft, that would be the ultimate plan. Now drafting a SS or bringing in a FA is also an option, if it works out.

RB, draft one, none of this FA crap. McFadden is great to have, but is not the long term answer. Turbin, if brought back will be fine too. Dunbar is too injury prone, time to move on.

Draft a QB in first 2 rounds. Do it now while they can. If they think they can get by with another has been FA, we will be looking at a high draft pick again, if Romo goes down again. And then we get to watch the 2017 draft with Jerry saying Romo has 5 years left, we don't need to draft a QB...again....still...do you really want to go from 2000 to 2007 again with the has been QB's Parcells trotted out there, as well as the Quincey Carter type that Jerry pushed onto Campo and Parcells.

 

[DallasEast]

How do you reconcile this opinion with reports that not only was he a distraction where garret had to have several meetings with him (and we all saw his sideline physical altercation with the coach), but that he was continuously tardy to meetings and lost the support of many team mates.

I've commented on the tweets, articles, etc., involving the examples you've mentioned on the forum previously. I would summarize my past comments to say none of them prompted significant disruptions in the everyday affairs of the team or the franchise. Garrett met with Hardy about his social media commentary (i.e. his comments about Brady and his wife, etc.), tardiness, etc., in private one-on-one sessions. There were no major or pertinent disciplinary actions taken. Garrett's statements to the media on Hardy's actions have been bland and concise as he presents virtually all information about the roster, which is at least one Garrett process I do respect highly. Garrett handled things. In my opinion, no outrageous waves developed that rocked Dallas' boat.

The sideline "altercation"? I don't recall my exact words from before but I think they would summarize the "incident" as laughable. Hardy yelled at the coach. Hardy knocked the clipboard out of the coach's hands. American football has existed for over a century. Similar player conduct has occurred in the past. The cameras caught Hardy. I would be concerned if Hardy had slapped or punched the coach or other players but him having a sideline snit? meh.

The thing about media reporting is the glossly vagueness of how information is conveyed to the public. "Lost support of many teammates?" Okay. Who? Which teammates? How are the teammates dissatisfied with Hardy as a teammate? Are certain teammates avoiding Hardy socially, on and/or off the field? What are they saying about Hardy? Are tupperware parties being ruined? I don't know. I wished I knew. People with access to the team could provide hard confirmable details. People... like the media. But the media says things like, "Hardy's lost the support of many of his teammates?" Really? 20 teammates? 10 teammates? 5? 1? The towel boy? I wish I could read or hear tangible conclusive info.

This team under jerry and Jason has had issues with discipline and accountability and Hardy feeds right into it.

Okay. It's a madhouse.

The media may have an agenda but they also have contacts inside the team and the locker room. So if you say they are wrong, what is your basis for saying that other than wishful thinking?

I could be wrong. I could be 100% wrong. If I'm saying anything, it's that the contacts you're talking about do not always provide detailed confirmable accounts about conversations and interactions occuring within the locker room, front office, and sometimes even on the sideline that is captured on camera but not available audibly. The contacts you're referring to could be providing testimony. They could also be providing hearsay. Sometimes the contacts use key words like "think", "should", "perhaps", etc., instead of words like "know", "will" or "shall". This isn't a matter of wishful thinking. It's a matter of not drawing conclusions based solely on partial or possibly inaccurate data.

In short, if Hardy is guilty of something and his actions or words have created a real detriment to team unity, etc., report exactly what he's done, describe transparently what problems were created as a byproduct, and give me more than superficial commentary of the entire event. If I must leap to conclusions based on media reports, allow the chasm be a yard across. Don't make me jump over the Grand Canyon. SAY WHAT??? HARDY'S DESTROYING THE TEAM?! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhhhhhhh *poof!*

 

[cowboyblue22]

I hope hardy and mcclain are both gone.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

I hope hardy and mcclain are both gone.

I don't think it would be wise to bring both back. McClain may get a reprieve mainly due to not wanting to create another hole on the team, but I don't think Hardy should be back.

 

[Alohawg1]

Lamar Miller on this team would be legendary.

I compare him to Collins or visa versa.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

This comment is either completely ignorant or disingenuous

Reading this stuff coming from your high and mighty POV is what makes your posts so entertaining

And this post is without fact or substance.

Bravo.

Fact is that since he came to Dallas he has only had a couple tweets and late meetings.

I speak in declarations because it is compelling writing not because I can never make a mistake. Sorry that you are such that it intimidates you. I go with an Aristotle quote "the enlightened mind can consider an idea without accepting it."

 

[LatinMind]

I'm not saying Miller would not have scored more than 3 TDs here, or even McFadden would have 10 TDs in Miami, but those number can be misleading. We consistently struggled to get deep enough in the redzone, where most backs score TDs. Miller may have had more here, but I can confidently say it would not have been 10.

They struggled because they didn't have the guy to convert them short yrds