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I like what I'm hearing about this guy. So I went back to look at some reviews of which I'll report the first I found.

Kevin Ogletree
WR, Virginia War Room analysis
Strengths: Is well-built; looks more like a running back than a receiver, which helps him absorb hard hits and gain yardage after contact. Is quick, and accelerates to full speed in a blink. Has the speed to separate on downfield routes. Shows the quick footwork to spin and get upfield after the catch. Shows good hands to reach out and make tough catches. Consistently gets feet down in-bounds on sideline routes. Is tough enough to catch passes in traffic, absorb the hard hit and hold onto the ball. Shows the hands and concentration to make over-the-shoulder catches downfield.
Weaknesses: Is a bit raw; routes are not sharp. Tends to round off cuts. Despite having good hands, has a bad habit of jumping and body-catching easy passes, making us wonder about the confidence he has in his hands. Fights the ball at times, dropping easy passes. Is not an aggressive runner after the catch, and does not deliver blow to tackler. Gives an inconsistent effort as a blocker.
Bottom line: Ogletree, a junior, definitely could have helped himself by staying in school. He is only the second receiver in Virginia history with two 50-catch seasons. He is an athletic receiver with the quickness, acceleration and speed to get separation on deep routes. Ogletree has the talent to become a solid NFL starter with improved route-running skills, more consistency catching the ball and more aggressiveness after the catch.


He has good size at 6-01/2 and 196lbs. He has speed and agility with 4.37 and good cones yada. He just needs to be more polished with routes. He has the skills to do it.

Does anyone have first hand experience with him or at least have seen him play?
 

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jobberone;2793408 said:
I like what I'm hearing about this guy. So I went back to look at some reviews of which I'll report the first I found.

Kevin Ogletree
WR, Virginia War Room analysis
Strengths: Is well-built; looks more like a running back than a receiver, which helps him absorb hard hits and gain yardage after contact. Is quick, and accelerates to full speed in a blink. Has the speed to separate on downfield routes. Shows the quick footwork to spin and get upfield after the catch. Shows good hands to reach out and make tough catches. Consistently gets feet down in-bounds on sideline routes. Is tough enough to catch passes in traffic, absorb the hard hit and hold onto the ball. Shows the hands and concentration to make over-the-shoulder catches downfield.
Weaknesses: Is a bit raw; routes are not sharp. Tends to round off cuts. Despite having good hands, has a bad habit of jumping and body-catching easy passes, making us wonder about the confidence he has in his hands. Fights the ball at times, dropping easy passes. Is not an aggressive runner after the catch, and does not deliver blow to tackler. Gives an inconsistent effort as a blocker.
Bottom line: Ogletree, a junior, definitely could have helped himself by staying in school. He is only the second receiver in Virginia history with two 50-catch seasons. He is an athletic receiver with the quickness, acceleration and speed to get separation on deep routes. Ogletree has the talent to become a solid NFL starter with improved route-running skills, more consistency catching the ball and more aggressiveness after the catch.


He has good size at 6-01/2 and 196lbs. He has speed and agility with 4.37 and good cones yada. He just needs to be more polished with routes. He has the skills to do it.

Does anyone have first hand experience with him or at least have seen him play?
In due time he could turn into a decent WR for us if everything works out and he makes the squad.
 

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jobberone;2793408 said:
Ogletree has the talent to become a solid NFL starter with improved route-running skills, more consistency catching the ball and more aggressiveness after the catch.

so what DOESN'T he need to work on? endzone dance?
 

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I try very hard to not be amazed at thinking like this, but then I fail.

So now every walk-on jamoche that plays WR and has a bio stating something remotely positive becomes more than just a guy.

The question I have is this. How did we go all those years, and it's nearly fifty come next season, and didn't field this all=pro receiving team from guys who were undrafted before.

When did this management get so savvy?

Love Romo and his game. But because he is a once in a lifetime player, it seems that more and more fans are looking for treasures in the trash.

Amazing.

Now comes the list of undrafted players over the years ignoring all the 1st runders who are Hall of Famers.
 

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iceberg;2793482 said:
so what DOESN'T he need to work on? endzone dance?

His routes need improvement. At least he caught more than 50 balls at VA the last two years.

TwoDeep3;2793484 said:
I try very hard to not be amazed at thinking like this, but then I fail.

So now every walk-on jamoche that plays WR and has a bio stating something remotely positive becomes more than just a guy.

The question I have is this. How did we go all those years, and it's nearly fifty come next season, and didn't field this all=pro receiving team from guys who were undrafted before.

When did this management get so savvy?

Love Romo and his game. But because he is a once in a lifetime player, it seems that more and more fans are looking for treasures in the trash.

Amazing.

Now comes the list of undrafted players over the years ignoring all the 1st runders who are Hall of Famers.

Crayton was a low choice. Ratliff. Drew Pearson was undrafted. Wright went in the 12th or was it 17th. What's your point? Everyone knows you get a low yield with UDFAs. Had this kid stayed in school he likely wouldn't have gone undrafted. It's not an exact science.

I just threw this guy out there because I didn't know his numbers that well. Making the team for him will likely depend on injuries or he'll have to really stand out. Most likely he may make the PS and hope for next year. But unlike Amendola this guy is built for returns and has legit speed and quicks. And he's already turning heads.
 

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jobberone;2793507 said:
His routes need improvement. At least he caught more than 50 balls at VA the last two years.



Crayton was a low choice. Ratliff. Drew Pearson was undrafted. Wright went in the 12th or was it 17th. What's your point? Everyone knows you get a low yield with UDFAs. Had this kid stayed in school he likely wouldn't have gone undrafted. It's not an exact science.

I just threw this guy out there because I didn't know his numbers that well. Making the team for him will likely depend on injuries or he'll have to really stand out. Most likely he may make the PS and hope for next year. But unlike Amendola this guy is built for returns and has legit speed and quicks. And he's already turning heads.

I apologize. I didn't mean for this to seem like it was taking a shot at you. Although upon further review it sure looks it.

The point I am making is this. Ever since Romo has become this franchise quarterback eveyone adores, there are more and more posts about guys who have no experience and the most dangerous word in pro sports - potential, followed closely by the speculation of what the guy could be.

The kid could be the next Jerry Rice for all I know.

But history says - maybe not.

His 4.37 forty is impressive. I offer your both an olive branch and Randall Williams. Fastest guy I ever saw, and that includes His Deioness.

He's proabably living in Alvord and driving a cement mixer now.
 

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TwoDeep3;2793484 said:
I try very hard to not be amazed at thinking like this, but then I fail.

So now every walk-on jamoche that plays WR and has a bio stating something remotely positive becomes more than just a guy.

The question I have is this. How did we go all those years, and it's nearly fifty come next season, and didn't field this all=pro receiving team from guys who were undrafted before.

When did this management get so savvy?

Love Romo and his game. But because he is a once in a lifetime player, it seems that more and more fans are looking for treasures in the trash.

Amazing.

Now comes the list of undrafted players over the years ignoring all the 1st runders who are Hall of Famers.


You're overreacting.

There have been some reports on him that he's looked good in the OTA's.
So naturally us fans will be happy about this and want to look into him a little further.

This is a good thing.
 

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TwoDeep3;2793569 said:
I apologize. I didn't mean for this to seem like it was taking a shot at you. Although upon further review it sure looks it.

The point I am making is this. Ever since Romo has become this franchise quarterback eveyone adores, there are more and more posts about guys who have no experience and the most dangerous word in pro sports - potential, followed closely by the speculation of what the guy could be.

The kid could be the next Jerry Rice for all I know.

But history says - maybe not.

His 4.37 forty is impressive. I offer your both an olive branch and Randall Williams. Fastest guy I ever saw, and that includes His Deioness.

He's proabably living in Alvord and driving a cement mixer now.

I didn't feel attacked but thanks for the gentlemanly apology. Accepted gladly but NP. I just think there really are jewels out there. The Cowboys have always been great at looking at UDFAs over most of those 50 years esp when Gil was here. They searched high and low. And it often paid off although I'll never forgive them for Rod Hill.

It's such a competitive league that they really need to work those low draft picks as well as UDFAs. That's a place to gain ground on other teams. I use to not pay much attn to those low round picks but not anymore.

But you're right. He'll have a hard time making this roster.

I do think he as some speed even if he 'only' ran a 4.46 at the combine. But he's got good size and quicks along with all the other necessary incredients. And he's built well for returns. He just needs to sharpen his routes and know where to go in the pro game. They might have three routes to run on the tree based on the play and the coverage.

Travis, Johnson, Jefferson, and Olgetree are probably playing for 2 maybe 3 PS spots. Unless we lose some WRs ahead of them to injury.

I do wish someone from the VA area would respond with some personal insight on Olgetree.
 

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sonnyboy;2793572 said:
You're overreacting.

There have been some reports on him that he's looked good in the OTA's.
So naturally us fans will be happy about this and want to look into him a little further.

This is a good thing.

Been watching this team since the very first Pittsburgh game. My motto now is:

SHOW ME!!

Not overreacting. Just seen far too many of these kinds of guys on this team and others.
 

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sonnyboy;2793572 said:
You're overreacting.

There have been some reports on him that he's looked good in the OTA's.
So naturally us fans will be happy about this and want to look into him a little further.

This is a good thing.

http://www.nfldraftdog.com/nfl-team-columns/dallas-cowboys.html

Kevin Ogletree – Signed as an undrafted free agent out of the University of Virginia, which could end up being a steal for the Cowboys. An NFL advisory board had Ogletree pegged as a 3rd or 4th rounder. He ran a 4.46 at the combine, which puts him in the same speed range as Jeremy Maclin, Kenny Britt and Joaquin Iglesias, but as an undrafted player is a long shot to make the team, given the amount of receivers the Cowboys have. He has size, speed, hands, and the ability to go fight for the ball in traffic. His progress during the offseason will be interesting to follow
 

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casmith07;2793637 said:
Amendola 2.0 :banghead:

:laugh2:

How do you figure. This guy was projected by the Advisory Board that if he came out he'd be a 3rd or 4th round pick. And he's much bigger and faster than Amendola and still has quicks. I don't see anyone prognosticating he will make the roster. But he is an interesting pick. So is the guy from OK. This team got an injection of speed with this draft.
 

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We have nothing to do but speculate for the next 2 months. I don't think discussing a few players until then is going to hurt.
 

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I do think we have a tendency to hype players we haven't seen play because we are excited about the possibilities.

Usually after we see the players, they don't excite us anymore because we understand their strengths and weaknesses ... and that most of them are never going to be the next All-Pro.

Better to dream while we can before reality hits us.
 

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sonnyboy;2793572 said:
You're overreacting.

There have been some reports on him that he's looked good in the OTA's.
So naturally us fans will be happy about this and want to look into him a little further.

This is a good thing.

elaborate, please
 
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