Oh the humanity!

[rcaldw]

I haven't seen this much moaning and groaning in the entire time I've been a member here.

*Norv is terrible!
*Why not Ron Rivera?! (The magical candidate the we know nothing about)
*Why not Rex Ryan?!
*Lets just make Jason Garrett the HC!
*Mike Singeltary deserves a real shot!
*Wade Phillips, Wade Phillips could fix our defense!
*Les Miles!
*Bob Stoopes!
*Anyone from Oklahoma!
*Dan Reeves!!!

I hope that Jerry makes his decision soon so that we can narrow all of this down to two groups. The one that thinks he made the right choice and the one that thinks he didn't.

 

[smarta5150]

Parcells is out.

I am happy no matter what.

 

[rcaldw]

This is a great example of why you need a strong leader at the head of any large organization. It is wise to take counsel, but there will be almost as many opinions as there are people who are asked. Ultimately, after all the advice, Jerry has to make the decision. He is the one who will live with the results. Well, we will too, but we don't have a voice in the decision.

 

[DipChit]

Better make it soon indeed other wise it'll run right over into the draft and just as many strong opinions/options will be posted on which direction we should go there too.

Cept of course this process is more important than that one.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Parcells is out.

I am happy no matter what.

What sadder statement can be made then to support change for the sake of change?

 

[smarta5150]

What sadder statement can be made then to support change for the sake of change?

Call it what you want but the fact is we we have been stuck in the mud for a decade now and Parcells proved he wasnt the one to get us back to our glory days.

I'm not here to argue who that man is who can get us over that hump because I honestly dont know.

I do know however that it was not Parcells.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Call it what you want but the fact is we we have been stuck in the mud for a decade now and Parcells proved he wasnt the one to get us back to our glory days.

I'm not here to argue who that man is who can get us over that hump because I honestly dont know.

I do know however that it was not Parcells.

that makes alot of sense/end sarcasm

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Call it what you want but the fact is we we have been stuck in the mud for a decade now and Parcells proved he wasnt the one to get us back to our glory days.

I'm not here to argue who that man is who can get us over that hump because I honestly dont know.

I do know however that it was not Parcells.

I call it BS.

Parcells did more then any single coach since Jimmy to get us out from under. There is a reason guys are trying to come out of retirement to campaign for a shot as HC of the Dallas Cowboys.

Sure, anybody but Parcells. Lets see how popular that is if we end up going 5-11 the next few seasons and TO is holding Court at Mid Field next year.

 

[Sancho]

surprised no jimster threads popped up.

 

[smarta5150]

I call it BS.

Parcells did more then any single coach since Jimmy to get us out from under. There is a reason guys are trying to come out of retirement to campaign for a shot as HC of the Dallas Cowboys.

Sure, anybody but Parcells. Lets see how popular that is if we end up going 5-11 the next few seasons and TO is holding Court at Mid Field next year.

He did have a nose for talent and I give him all the credit for that, but thats it.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

He did have a nose for talent and I give him all the credit for that, but thats it.

In the NFL, that's everything. You can be the best coach in the world but without talent, you aint gonna get it done. Anybody in the NFL will tell you this.

We owe Bill Parcells big time. He turned this franchise from the laughing stock of the NFL into the most prized coaching situation in the league.

Your a Jersey guy right? You should know this.

 

[rcaldw]

I think any honest assessment would have to admit that even MANY former Parcells supporters thought it was time for him to go. "Accumlating talent" that doesn't produce great seasons is either "overselling" the so-called talent you have, or it is an admission that the talent was poorly coached, or poorly performed.

If we are SO talented, how do we lose home games, MEANINGFUL games to the Eagles and Lions????????

You can't have it both ways. Either we aren't as talented as Parcells is given credit for, or he didn't do a very good job coaching. Take your pick.

 

[Kaika]

Not sure I want to get into this discussion , I have to say that I too am glad BP left.

He was 34-32 in Dallas, counting two playoff losses.

Granted, he made us a better team than when he came to the Cowboys ,but he couldn't lift us over the top. I'm not saying that a new coach can do a better job and get us a Super Bowl ,but we know what we had with Bill and sorry to say ,it wasn't good enough.

 

[smarta5150]

In the NFL, that's everything. You can be the best coach in the world but without talent, you aint gonna get it done. Anybody in the NFL will tell you this.

We owe Bill Parcells big time. He turned this franchise from the laughing stock of the NFL into the most prized coaching situation in the league.

Your a Jersey guy right? You should know this.

Apparently not.

He got us boatloads of talent and got us killed in meaningful games vs the Eagles and Saints.

He can be a GM on my team but thats it.

He got outcoached way too many times for my liking (and I bet yours).

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I think any honest assessment would have to admit that even MANY former Parcells supporters thought it was time for him to go. "Accumlating talent" that doesn't produce great seasons is either "overselling" the so-called talent you have, or it is an admission that the talent was poorly coached, or poorly performed.

If we are SO talented, how do we lose home games, MEANINGFUL games to the Eagles and Lions????????

You can't have it both ways. Either we aren't as talented as Parcells is given credit for, or he didn't do a very good job coaching. Take your pick.

Jimmy Johnson once had a coaching life after Dallas. Was he a good coach or was he not, based on what he did in Miami? Can't have it both way huh?

Tom Landry was a great coach back in 77. He was still great coach in the early 80s but in the late 80s, he forgot everything he new I guess. Was he great or was he not?

Chucky, out in Tampa was reviered as the greatest young offensive mind in the game. Now, he's not winning in Tampa. He's still young. Can't have it both ways.

Tony Dungy was talked about as the greatest choke artist in the history of the game on this very board. Now, he's in the Super Bowl. Which is it, is he good or is he not? Can't have it both ways.

The truth is that circumstances sometimes get in the way. Bill Parcells was a great coach. In his years in Dallas, he may not have won a championship but he still got to the playoffs twice. The problem here is that your expectations were unreal. The problem was not that Parcells was not a good coach or somehow forgot how to do it. He didn't get too old. He put us in a position to win and it didn't happen. Maybe you think he should have been holding on that last kick huh? We lost by one muffed hold. The team we lost to lost to these Chicago Bears, with less then 5 minutes to go in OT on a 49 yard kick in Chicago.

I'm happy that you folks who are responsible for bearing the cross for the Cowboy nation are on the job. Just remember that when your crucifing Parcells, the next guy might be somebody who has a lifetime winning percentage of .422. If he comes away with an 8-8 season or worse, lets not hold him to any lessor standard then you did with Parcells. Lets also stand up and identify ourselves as the ones who wanted Parcells gone at any cost.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Apparently not.

He got us boatloads of talent and got us killed in meaningful games vs the Eagles and Saints.

He can be a GM on my team but thats it.

He got outcoached way too many times for my liking (and I bet yours).

No, your in this by yourself. I'm not going to say that I am happy to see Parcells gone. In fact, I fear what might be ahead but I'm almost certain that if we drop the transmition while trying to take this franchise into reverse, the same people who trampled Parcells will be waiting in line to do the same for the next coach.

 

[rcaldw]

Jimmy Johnson once had a coaching life after Dallas. Was he a good coach or was he not, based on what he did in Miami? Can't have it both way huh?

Tom Landry was a great coach back in 77. He was still great coach in the early 80s but in the late 80s, he forgot everything he new I guess. Was he great or was he not?

Chucky, out in Tampa was reviered as the greatest young offensive mind in the game. Now, he's not winning in Tampa. He's still young. Can't have it both ways.

Tony Dungy was talked about as the greatest choke artist in the history of the game on this very board. Now, he's in the Super Bowl. Which is it, is he good or is he not? Can't have it both ways.

The truth is that circumstances sometimes get in the way. Bill Parcells was a great coach. In his years in Dallas, he may not have won a championship but he still got to the playoffs twice. The problem here is that your expectations were unreal. The problem was not that Parcells was not a good coach or somehow forgot how to do it. He didn't get too old. He put us in a position to win and it didn't happen. Maybe you think he should have been holding on that last kick huh? We lost by one muffed hold. The team we lost to lost to these Chicago Bears, with less then 5 minutes to go in OT on a 49 yard kick in Chicago.

I'm happy that you folks who are responsible for bearing the cross for the Cowboy nation are on the job. Just remember that when your crucifing Parcells, the next guy might be somebody who has a lifetime winning percentage of .422. If he comes away with an 8-8 season or worse, lets not hold him to any lessor standard then you did with Parcells. Lets also stand up and identify ourselves as the ones who wanted Parcells gone at any cost.

I actually think you made my point.

When Jimmy had the best talent, Jimmy won because he was a great coach.

When Landry had the best talent, Landry won, because he was a great coach.

You are the one saying that Parcells has accumulated great talent here. Fine. I can go that way with you if you believe that. So why didn't he win?

Or, you can say he just didn't have the horses that these other teams had. Fine. I can go that way too. So stop saying what great talent he has blessed us with.

That is what I mean by take your choice. If you say he is a great coach with the best talent, then I don't understand 4 consecutive December swoons, do you? 4 straight years?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I actually think you made my point.

When Jimmy had the best talent, Jimmy won because he was a great coach.

When Landry had the best talent, Landry won, because he was a great coach.

You are the one saying that Parcells has accumulated great talent here. Fine. I can go that way with you if you believe that. So why didn't he win?

Or, you can say he just didn't have the horses that these other teams had. Fine. I can go that way too. So stop saying what great talent he has blessed us with.

That is what I mean by take your choice. If you say he is a great coach with the best talent, then I don't understand 4 consecutive December swoons, do you? 4 straight years?

You have a propensity to put words into my mouth. I never said he had the best talent. I said he is responsible for collecting the talent we now have. For what it's worth, I do think we have good talent here but I don't think we have enough and I don't think that talent is developed enough. We're still too young. Show me any place I said he had the best talent. After that, you may feel free to appoligize.

 

[smarta5150]

No, your in this by yourself. I'm not going to say that I am happy to see Parcells gone. In fact, I fear what might be ahead but I'm almost certain that if we drop the transmition while trying to take this franchise into reverse, the same people who trampled Parcells will be waiting in line to do the same for the next coach.

So you liked how Parcells coached?

How he made zero halftime adjustments...

Abandoned the run game against the Saints...

Didnt pick on the Seahawks secondary in the playoffs...

Going for 2 against the Skins in the 1st half...

Pitch to MBIII on 4th and goal...

Getting out coached by Andy Reid every game...

Running TO down the sidelines and Glenn on slants when it should have been vice versa...

Holding Payton back when we had him in Dallas...

Starting Romo 4 games (or however many it was) too late...


He made great GM-type decisions such as cutting Vanderjact but as a coach it was a nightmare.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

So you liked how Parcells coached?

How he made zero halftime adjustments...

Abandoned the run game against the Saints...

Didnt pick on the Seahawks secondary in the playoffs...

Going for 2 against the Skins in the 1st half...

Pitch to MBIII on 4th and goal...

Getting out coached by Andy Reid every game...

Running TO down the sidelines and Glenn on slants when it should have been vice versa...

Holding Payton back when we had him in Dallas...

Starting Romo 4 games (or however many it was) too late...


He made great GM-type decisions such as cutting Vanderjact but as a coach it was a nightmare.

Yeah, I can't complain overly much about Bill Parcells. I never thought Parcells was the best coach there was out there and I new full well what to expect when he got to Dallas but I do think he is a great coach. You can pin all you want on him but the facts remain, he is in the Hall of Fame for Coaching football. He is still considered one of the best around and if he decided to come out of retirement today, the Cowboys would likely be the first in line to try and sign him on. Like it or not, those are the facts and they are not in dispute.