Ok it's that time again...

[jem88]

Before I respond.... Is that a serious response? U2?






Your reponse doesnt fit what is baffling to me.

Ok... what baffled me is you not being to choose the better of the two between Zep and Clash.

No biggie though.

That's exactly what I referring to. Anyways, it's all subjective I guess.

 

[Duane]

I just recently got into Dinosaur Jr and have found a band that I really missed out on the first time around in the late 80s early 90s. As alway the greatest hits album is a good place to start and "Ear-Bleeding Country: The Best of Dinosaur Jr." has a pretty nice selection of their music although it isn't comprehensive.

 

[AbeBeta]

Before I respond.... Is that a serious response? U2?

Again, tell me what you consider a legit source.

U2 is arguably one of the most successful bands of the last decade or two.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Again, tell me what you consider a legit source.

U2 is arguably one of the most successful bands of the last decade or two.

The Defense rests.... motion for thread closure... :laugh2:

 

[AbeBeta]

The Defense rests.... motion for thread closure... :laugh2:

Unless you want to actually make a substantive point you should probably just stay out of the thread.

 

[vta]

I'd have to file it under the Things I Don't Get thread that was started, but yes, U2 is arguably one of the most successful modern bands of the last two decades. I personally hate them and just don't get it, but I cant deny their success. They set a record, before the Stones beat it, two years ago for concert revenue and attendance.

They are very popular.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Unless you want to actually make a substantive point you should probably just stay out of the thread.

I want to understand how anyone can put the Clash above Led Zeppelin. You have not and can not make a good argument for that.

My point is: You are wrong about the significance of the Clash... especially if you are going to say they are more influential than Led Zeppelin.


The consensus goes to... Led Zep NOT the Clash or U2

 

[AbeBeta]

I want to understand how anyone can put the Clash above Led Zeppelin. You have not and can not make a good argument for that.

My point is: You are wrong about the significance of the Clash... especially if you are going to say they are more influential than Led Zeppelin.


The consensus goes to... Led Zep NOT the Clash or U2

Never said MORE, said absolutely in the same universe. I don't see any evidence for your "consensus" view presented.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Except for being one of the biggest influences on nearly every band that has followed...

This is STILL an outrageous post.

As far as influence they are absolutely in the same universe. They influenced different types of music but they are absolutely in the same universe.

Lyrically, the Clash absolutely destroy Plant's moronic Lord of the Ring inspired drivel.

"There aint no good guy... there aint no bad guy.... we just disagree"



I would like to hear from a non-biased poster as to the strength of the lyrics of the two bands.

Here's quote from arguably the world's biggest band...

"The Clash was the greatest rock band. They wrote the rule book for U2." Bono

Influential?

Sorry... Bono and U2 are not in the Top 10.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Actually being "punk" is a disadvantage as the Clash's particular brand of it was informed and highly political. That pretty much takes a ton of the knucklehead fans out of the mix. But hey, those folks still had blues-stealing Zeppelin.

So in the above comment you give more credit to the Clash and less to Zep. Who is more important here? I know its not a tie?

Do tell?

Except for being one of the biggest influences on nearly every band that has followed...

Again I will ask.... on your "biggest influences on nearly every band that has followed" LIST.... who rates where? Where do you have Zep and where do you have the Clash?

 

[AbeBeta]

Again I will ask.... on your "biggest influences on nearly every band that has followed" LIST.... who rates where? Where do you have Zep and where do you have the Clash?

As I noted before, it clearly depends on the genre of music. Why don't you be a little proactive here and tell me exactly what current bands YOU see as being influenced by Zeppelin. Bands that released albums in the last few years....

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

As I noted before, it clearly depends on the genre of music. Why don't you be a little proactive here and tell me exactly what current bands YOU see as being influenced by Zeppelin. Bands that released albums in the last few years....

I am tired of grabbing your quotes to ask you to verify or validate something... cause clearly you cant... and have not tried to.

Oh so now it depends on the genre of music when before you said ALL.



Pound for pound - Zep beats the Clash. Its not even close.

 

[AbeBeta]

I am tired of grabbing your quotes to ask you to verify or validate something... cause clearly you cant... and have not tried to.

Oh so now it depends on the genre of music when before you said ALL.



Pound for pound - Zep beats the Clash. Its not even close.

Pound for pound, you can't make an argument to save your life.

Read my posts before you claim "now this" or "now that"

And again, you tell me what sort of "proof" you want -- clearly you won't say what you would accept as proof because that negates your ability to claim something isn't valid.

You can't even name a single band that put out an album recently that was influenced by Zeppelin? Yet you claim to know about musical influences?

Why do you even bother posting if you aren't going to try to even have a discussion?

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Pound for pound, you can't make an argument to save your life.

Read my posts before you claim "now this" or "now that"

And again, you tell me what sort of "proof" you want -- clearly you won't say what you would accept as proof because that negates your ability to claim something isn't valid.

You can't even name a single band that put out an album recently that was influenced by Zeppelin? Yet you claim to know about musical influences?

Why do you even bother posting if you aren't going to try to even have a discussion?

Wow... lots of inaccuracies there.

Have you read your posts alone?
You skirt all the questions.

 

[AbeBeta]

Wow... lots of inaccuracies there.

Have you read your posts alone?
You skirt all the questions.

Yawn.

You can't even seem to name a single band.

Thanks for making my point.

Now can everyone get back to making music recommendations or do we have to listen to more of Mick's drivel?

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Yawn.

You can't even seem to name a single band.

Thanks for making my point.

Now can everyone get back to making music recommendations or do we have to listen to more of Mick's drivel?

You can end it right here at "who is/was more influential"??... but you wont. Please, please... just tell me/us who is more influential. The Clash or Led Zeppelin.

My bet is you wont answer it.

 

[AbeBeta]

You can end it right here at "who is/was more influential"??... but you wont. Please, please... just tell me/us who is more influential. The Clash or Led Zeppelin.

My bet is you wont answer it.

Again, they are both in the same universe of influential-ness.

The Clash has clearly been more influential on punk, alternative (which is a HUGE genre), rap, and even reggae where artists routinely cover their work.

Zeppelin more influential on straight ahead rock and roll and more blues inspired rock.

But perhaps we can look to what is rapidly becoming the most critically acclaimed release of the week for answers. That release is the Hold Steady's Stay Positive where in one tune they ask us to "Raise a toast to saint Joe Strummer, I think he might have been our only decent teacher" and then later, in another song, say "They used to think it was so cute
When she said "'Dyer Maker.' All the boys knew it was a joke about Jamaica"

Seems according to them both are clearly in the same universe.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Except for being one of the biggest influences on nearly every band that has followed...

So with the below post you rescind the above post correct?

The Clash has clearly been more influential on punk, alternative (which is a HUGE genre), rap, and even reggae where artists routinely cover their work.

Zeppelin more influential on straight ahead rock and roll and more blues inspired rock.

 

[AbeBeta]

So with the below post you rescind the above post correct?

not at all -- because those were the genres that took off after punk.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

not at all -- because those were the genres that took off after punk.

Yeah nice try. "nearly every" and then naming "genre's" doesnt fly.


Just say you believe that The Clash is/was more influential than Zep and it can end.