OL Next Gen Stats

[pansophy]

Dak is also 29th in expected pass completion differential...so there is that. https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing#completionPercentageAboveExpectation

 

[Parcells4Life]

Seattle has a rookie TE who is making plays and Doug Baldwin, who didn't play yesterday. Lockett had more catches and yards than Beasley last year.

Who is Dak throwing to when he needs a play?

Trick question! He’s not throwing because he’s holding the ball too long.

We don’t know what these receivers can do because Dak only throws when they’re wide open.

He never would have thrown that pass to Marshall that Russell did that zipped by Chido. In your third year you should at least be trying to throw those.

 

[Jake]

I do believe the O-line overall has fallen off a cliff as compared to 2014.

Fact: Zeke has more yards, on fewer carries, than Gurley, Hunt, AP, and Jordan Howard.

Fact: Dak has more time to throw than Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Goff, Roethlisberger, and about 25 other guys.

Check the stats if you don't believe it. These things are tracked.

Regardless of what we may feel about the line, they aren't the problem.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

When you have to wait for a guy to break wide open, you’re going to take a lot of sacks.

 

[ScipioCowboy]

It’s funny because, yesterday, I said Dak needs to be getting rid of the ball in about three seconds, and he’s getting that amount of time.

 

[CyberB0b]

It’s a combo of Dak and the OL. To be honest.

Dak holds the ball too long at times.

That being said. The cowboys have sunk ENORMOUS capital into the OL. 3, first round picks, 1 second rounder and huge amounts of cap space.

With all of those resources poured into the OL, it needs to be a dominant unit. If it’s not going to be, the rest of the offense isn’t talented enough to succeed.

The team is built to rely on the OL. And right now the OL is unreliable.

Truth. With all of the investment in this line, we shouldn't need next gen stats to protect them.

 

[Captain-Crash]

I'm pretty sure Troy will never say Dak is better than him. I don't know how many more ways Troy has to say Dak sucks without just coming out and saying it.

 

[reddyuta]

This just illustrates the problem is more on the QB being able to read the field.

He cant do that,he is inaccurate and he doesnt even have the arm to make basic sideline throws from the pocket.

 

[Roadtrip635]

Apparently there isn't a direct link, but if you click the Cowboys game at top and scroll down you'll see that Beasley and Thompson both had more than 3 yards of separation.

That yds of seperation is defined by yards a defender is away on a catch or completion. It doesn't show separation on all their plays or routes run. To get a full view, is there stats somewhere that calculates separation on all routes run?

 

[Bluestang]

https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/glossary

Passing Stats
Time To Throw (TT)
Time to Throw measures the average amount of time elapsed from the time of snap to throw on every pass attempt for a passer (sacks excluded).

 

[Bluestang]

This is a deceiving stat because if you sort this list by passer rating you will see that the highest rated passers have 'less' time to throw, so this is really an indication of how long until they throw the ball or are sacked/run. So it could be that the WRs aren't open or that Dak simply is reading the field fast enough. Seeing some of the tape breakdown I suspect Dak is just holding the ball too long and is avoiding throws to the sideline, which he is not accurate at making, resulting in the defense taking away the throws he likes in the middle of the field.

You may want to rethink this line of thought. Typically from under center passes the QB should be making the throw after they hit the their last step, 3 step drop, step and throw, 5 step drop, step and throw, 7 step drop, step and throw. From shotgun it should be less than 3 seconds.

The problem is at all levels, the play calling, the coaching, and the players. However, my point is that Dak is not a franchise guy and once the other problems are fixed you are not going to have much success either because your franchise guy now can’t even hit wide open guys consistently.


https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/glossary

Passing Stats
Time To Throw (TT)
Time to Throw measures the average amount of time elapsed from the time of snap to throw on every pass attempt for a passer (sacks excluded).

 

[pansophy]

You may want to rethink this line of thought. Typically from under center passes the QB should be making the throw after they hit the their last step, 3 step drop, step and throw, 5 step drop, step and throw, 7 step drop, step and throw. From shotgun it should be less than 3 seconds.

The problem is at all levels, the play calling, the coaching, and the players. However, my point is that Dak is not a franchise guy and once the other problems are fixed you are not going to have much success either because your franchise guy now can’t even hit wide open guys consistently.


https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/glossary

Passing Stats
Time To Throw (TT)
Time to Throw measures the average amount of time elapsed from the time of snap to throw on every pass attempt for a passer (sacks excluded).

I don't disagree with the overall point -- just pointing out that the time to throw includes everything from the OL creating time, QB having to move around because the Ol is breaking down, WR's taking too long in their routes to get open, and QB not being able to make a decision.

So to me it's not a stat that points at any one individual. When everything is working well the best QB's are getting the ball out 2.6-2.7 seconds, so faster than Dak. Totally could be because he is t throwing at the end of his drop like he should but could also be other things.

 

[J12B]

And it seems like defenses are sending more blitzes. So the oline is doing their job.

Dak on the other hand, not so much

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

I am not a Dak hater, but I have just about lost all hope in him being the guy to lead us. We don't have anyone remotely close to compete with him, so we are pretty much stuck. If Linehan and Garrett can't get him better in a hurry, I think all three are headed out of town after this season.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

As far as us not running the read option because their defense is fast, you have to at least test the waters. Not running it at all was just pathetic coaching...you have to give it a try. The OL hasn't been great, and that rushing yardage from Zeke yesterday was all smoke and mirrors....it seems like a big number but it was based on a few runs between the 20's.

Another thing, and this goes on Garrett, but the number of stupid plays from stepping out of bounds on multiple pass plays, to taking an unsportsmanlike penalty to give the 15 yds of field position at the end of the half, to using timeouts willy nilly, to a situation where it looked like multiple defensive busts in a row....this team just isn't coached very well.

 

[armadillooutlaw]

The OL is still above average.
The playcalling & QB play are the main issues.
There have been opportunities to make plays that Dak has either not seen, or has tried to hit but his throws have been off the mark.

 

[beware_d-ware]

OL is still about average (some people don't appreciate just how many BAD lines there are in the league right now), but Tyron got beat like a drum yesterday by Frank Clark too.

 

[buybuydandavis]

This just illustrates the problem is more on the QB being able to read the field.

Happy feet, poor accuracy, and unwillingness to pull the trigger.

And an OC not calling more runs.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Im am so tired of protecting Dak. They take away what he does best in order to preserve him to play like trash. It makes zero sense.

Dak is a running QB built like a LB who took plenty of hits in college and kept on ticking. I don't know why we treat him like a daisy.

He's plenty conservative about not getting smacked around on his read options. We should use them. I think he plays better *on the other plays* when he runs some read option. Puts him in a groove. Gives him confidence.

Don't draft a running QB if you don't plan on running him.

Our coaching is such a disaster.

 

[chagus]

This shows its on Dak but I think it's more on Moore when it comes to QB play this season. Rush regressed and so did Dak. Moore has to go. I don't think it's a coincidence.