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Banana-rama ding-dong split right Y cross expy-alla-docious. Linehan just called in the play. The QB relays it in the huddle, and the offense breaks for the line of scrimmage.

What happens next? It entirely depends on the experience and acumen of your quarterback.

Most quarterbacks might send a receiver in motion because they don't like the coverage on that side, or to determine if a defense is in man or zone. He might switch his running back from his right side to his left, or send a tight end to the other side of the line of scrimmage. He'll point at the "mike" linebacker to give the line its key. He might even signal to a receiver to change a route, or just fake like he is to get a defender to change his position.

That's typical. That's what most NFL quarterbacks do. That's the level of their understanding, and what time will allow. Mostly, these quarterbacks are focused solely on their OWN responsibility because their confidence and football knowledge doesn't allow for much else. In the NFL, defenses are disguised so well that these old standard methods no longer tell much. They know it's about to move really, really fast, so hold on tight. Hut!

Elite quarterbacks see it entirely differently.

An elite QB runs the original play called about 30 percent of the time, if that. They change all sorts of things, maybe the play entirely. He is almost never fooled. He knows that the LB showing blitz isn't blitzing. That's a dummy. He knows that the safety over the top is going to shade to the left because of where the linebackers are. He saw that on tape. He knows the corners are going to play outside coverage, or inside, based on the position of the safeties and linebackers on this particular team. He generally knows who's blitzing, and if he's wrong, he knows where to go with the ball mid-play.

That was processed in a second or two, and that's just the beginning.

The elite QB goes to the line of scrimmage and plays out the play in his mind before the snap. Yes, Terrance Williams will be open as called, and he's the primary read. But if he can perhaps change Beasley's route to break the other direction, he can run off that safety playing closer than usual so Williams might be able to turn the play into a much longer gain. That linebacker might be coming, so switch Elliott to the left side in the flat if time doesn't allow for Williams. Or perhaps if he changes Witten's route to that side so he can go there if he's wrong about the safety. Then there's that linebacker on the left side that's going to blitz, so let's have Elliott chip him on his way to the flat. These are just a few of the adjustments being made.

Or....this play isn't going to work at all, so let's set up an entirely different protections and routes right then and there, or "kill" the play to the backup play, and start the reading process all over.

That all happens in about 10 seconds. Then 3, 2, snap. And that's just my very rudimentary understanding from afar.

To his incredible credit, Dak Prescott is already proficient in the former. He plays like a veteran already, and his mind is already processing at a sufficient rate to allow his talents to be successful much of the time. He has as much understanding as Weeden or Cassel right now, if not more. That is amazing for a rookie.

Romo can do the latter, and he admits it took him many years to learn it. He didn't have a mentor to teach him because Bledsoe never achieved that level, nor did Vinny. Only a rare few - Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, Brees, and the like - ever truly become master wizards. Romo tried the "wing it" style like his idol Farve for years, and it wasn't consistent. Rivers still tries to do it that way, as do others, to varying degrees of success

Romo has a willing student in Dak, who seems both serious and interested enough to go through the frustrating gauntlet of film study required to earn those stripes. Romo said he's willing to raise Jerry a replacement. I want to see this. I want Dak to achieve total consciousness, so he'll have that going for him after Romo.

Whatever the end holds for Romo this last year, two, or three, his final offering to this franchise should be to accelerate Dak along the path. Get him to Jedi level in half the time it took Romo to go it alone. Linehan and Garrett can't teach it; they never did it. No offensive coordinator can, or even if they could, they can't exactly teach it quite the same.

Looks like Dak is the real thing. Let's raise him right, eh Tony? Show him what you know.
 

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Dak will learn this exponentially compared to the usual routes QB's take. Romo will be the best instructor on this.
Dak is getting 1st hand much needed experience right now.
Once Tony returns he will be able to observe, not only first hand, but also from sitting with him studying film.
I think this will be even better for him then just staying out on the field.

Tony the Jedi will pass the force onto Dak the Jedi in training within the next few years. and we won't miss a beat.
 

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Dak will learn this exponentially compared to the usual routes QB's take. Romo will be the best instructor on this.
Dak is getting 1st hand much needed experience right now.
Once Tony returns he will be able to observe, not only first hand, but also from sitting with him studying film.
I think this will be even better for him then just staying out on the field.

Tony the Jedi will pass the force onto Dak the Jedi in training within the next few years. and we won't miss a beat.

And the two seem to really like each other. I'll bet, in time, Romo will embrace this and get a real kick out of it. Right now, I'm sure his competitive nature is just antsy to get playing again because it's been so long. Even he wonders about his ability to stay on the field now. He wants proof positive, just like us.

Prescott could be a nightmare for opponents in as few as 3 seasons.
 

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And the two seem to really like each other. I'll bet, in time, Romo will embrace this and get a real kick out of it. Right now, I'm sure his competitive nature is just antsy to get playing again because it's been so long. Even he wonders about his ability to stay on the field now. He wants proof positive, just like us.

Prescott could be a nightmare for opponents in as few as 3 seasons.
In 3 seasons all of the talent on offense could be passing their peak.

Let Romo play out this season but if another disappointing ending time to move on.

Philly isn't waiting on Wentz , Colts didn't on Luck. Have to know when to move on and let go. Even if it's a year or two premature .

How far is this team going anyway with this defense with or without Romo?
 

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In 3 seasons all of the talent on offense could be passing their peak.

Let Romo play out this season but if another disappointing ending time to move on.

Philly isn't waiting on Wentz , Colts didn't on Luck. Have to know when to move on and let go. Even if it's a year or two premature .

How far is this team going anyway with this defense with or without Romo?

The offensive line is basically set for 10 years. Elliott won't be close to done. Dez and Witten will need to be replaced.

Philly had no choice, nor did Indianapolis. They didn't have elite QBs in place. Dallas does. And by the way, Andrew Luck is supremely overrated. That guys looks like he already peaked, and it's not that high of a peak.

Let's find out.

Dak will learn more on the sideline, just like Brady, Brees, Rodgers, and most others. Aikman learned nothing his first season other than how to lose and take a beating.
 

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Jerry with his comment is already lobbying for Romo's return. I expect the more diehard Romo loyalist to follow suit.

This is damage control starting after Daks first win to derail any momentum he might gain if he continues to win and have success.

They aren't ready for the future yet. They're still all in on Romo to validate his career.
 

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Jerry with his comment is already lobbying for Romo's return. I expect the more diehard Romo loyalist to follow suit.

This is damage control starting after Daks first win to derail any momentum he might gain if he continues to win and have success.

They aren't ready for the future yet. They're still all in on Romo to validate his career.

Not one team in the NFL would start Dak over Romo. Not one.
 

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A QB who comes in and has immediate success would support all of the critics of Romo.

Don't worry Jerry is going to do everything within his power to not let that happen .
 

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this thread is embarrassing. we have no idea what is going on in the huddle or at the line with pre snap reads

just enjoy what we see, let's stop being posers pretending to know things we can't possibly know.
 

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Jerry with his comment is already lobbying for Romo's return. I expect the more diehard Romo loyalist to follow suit.

This is damage control starting after Daks first win to derail any momentum he might gain if he continues to win and have success.

They aren't ready for the future yet. They're still all in on Romo to validate his career.
What a ridiculous post. Our fanbase has to be the worst in the league. :facepalm:
 

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Romo will sacrifice himself to the sith Lord Mara which will make Dak that much stronger.
 

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I'm not sure I'm completely sold on Dak. We need to know or we'll need to draft another QB next year.

I understand that Romo has kept this team relevant this era but I don't place him in the same elite status many of you do. Sorry. I'm result oriented.

He isn't in the same category as Brady and Rodgers, etc. One of the best of the rest in his prime. His prime has passed. It'd be different if Not for Dak and why Jerry and his Romo followers are out in full force now .
 

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They wouldn't start a Dak who might be 4-2 for example over a hobbling Romo?

What would it take?

No, they wouldn't. Without batting an eye, they would start Romo.

If Romo shows in a couple of games that he no longer has it, then they'd start a conversation.

Garropolo was playing great before he got hurt. Do you really think they would have sat Brady in Week 5 so their "future" could play?
 

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What a ridiculous post. Our fanbase has to be the worst in the league. :facepalm:

Not going to hate on Diehardblues in particular, but, boy you're not kidding about Cowboys fans and how much they suck. They fawn all over NFCE rivals every season, roll over on the Cowboys at the drop of a hat, complain about the stadium, the money the owner spends on the franchise, turn on great veteran players at the drop of a hat and act pious about it while they're doing it, they're slow to recognize talent in the players we do have and just generally complain about the team all the way through otherwise competitive seasons. They take crap from fans of other teams who haven't won anything, and expect the worst leading into every single game. Plus, because the bandwagon is so large, we're just whiney and entitled and have a high percentage of fans who know very little about football to begin with. Call them on it, they'll tell you they're no different from NFL fans anywhere, but they are different because they're a lot more entitled and have such a high percentage of know-nothings who happen to think they know something because the team won some Superbowls once.
 

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Dont worry. Jerry won't give up on Romo until they have to drag him off the field in a stretcher.

I wish his Cinderella story had a better ending but this is the NFL. Strictly business . There's no room for emotional attachments.

But we might have something here. I want to see it play out. If Dak flounders, bring Romo back in. No way though I disrupt a winning chemistry.

I'm suspect Jerry will find a way to screw it up. He's already begun meddling .
 

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Not going to hate on Diehardblues in particular, but, boy you're not kidding about Cowboys fans and how much they suck. They fawn all over NFCE rivals every season, roll over on the Cowboys at the drop of a hat, complain about the stadium, the money the owner spends on the franchise, turn on great veteran players at the drop of a hat and act pious about it while they're doing it, they're slow to recognize talent in the players we do have and just generally complain about the team all the way through otherwise competitive seasons. They take crap from fans of other teams who haven't won anything, and expect the worst leading into every single game. Plus, because the bandwagon is so large, we're just whiney and entitled and have a high percentage of fans who know very little about football to begin with. Call them on it, they'll tell you they're no different from NFL fans anywhere, but they are different because they're a lot more entitled and have such a high percentage of know-nothings who happen to think they know something because the team won some Superbowls once.

I'm big on loyalty. Not blind loyalty, but loyalty in general.

Be it family, work, friends, customers, vendors.....loyalty and integrity are absolutes. They, unfortunately, are the rarest qualities these days.

That goes for every team in the NFL, too. You don't turn your back on Romo until he's done. It doesn't just make obvious football sense, it's just the right thing to do.

When Dak is clearly the better option, you pass the baton. Until then, it's just silly talk.
 

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No, they wouldn't. Without batting an eye, they would start Romo.

If Romo shows in a couple of games that he no longer has it, then they'd start a conversation.

Garropolo was playing great before he got hurt. Do you really think they would have sat Brady in Week 5 so their "future" could play?
I don't place Romo in that category plus Brady is not injured and that's really what his is all about. This is not the same Romo.
 

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I'm big on loyalty. Not blind loyalty, but loyalty in general.

Be it family, work, friends, customers, vendors.....loyalty and integrity are absolutes. They, unfortunately, are the rarest qualities these days.

That goes for every team in the NFL, too. You don't turn your back on Romo until he's done. It doesn't just make obvious football sense, it's just the right thing to do.

When Dak is clearly the better option, you pass the baton. Until then, it's just silly talk.

As soon as Dak's legitimately better than Tony, Tony sits. I even buy that, if you think Dak's on a trajectory to be better than Tony over the course of a full season of play, Tony sits. But we're nowhere near that point of both of these guys are healthy. How quickly and completely the fans turned their backs on Romo makes me really sad. How completely some of them have forgotten how good a player he is is just confusing.
 
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