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erod

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There's always hope Erod. I envy your optimism. I haven't felt it in a long time but I am excited about Dak. Much like I was back in 2006 and 2007 when Romo came onto the scene.

If you play him now heavily, you'll get Derek Carr production.

Carr looks very promising, but they're still just muddling along. He could have used some time on the sideline first.

Romo maximizes what talent is here. Prescott just drives the bus.
 

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If you play him now heavily, you'll get Derek Carr production.

Carr looks very promising, but they're still just muddling along. He could have used some time on the sideline first.

Romo maximizes what talent is here. Prescott just drives the bus.
Dak has more to work with than most Rookie QB's. Look how Wentz is doing.

I'm not against bringing Romo back. If Romo is up to speed. We won't know until he gets out there .

Here's the biggie though . Will anything but an injury get Romo out of the lineup?
 

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Your still more focused on winning now. I'm more prepared to concede the season for developing our future. Cause I don't think this defense will take us far anyway. This is a core differential between us. You still think this team with Romo can make a run to the Super Bowl. I do not. Not this year anyway.

Let Romo's back heal and see how he is next year. And if Dak somehow gets us close or in then we know we've got something . I know. You guys are still hanging on to the Romo Dream . Very difficult for me. I'm already focusing on the next 10 years.
 

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Dak has more to work with than most Rookie QB's. Look how Wentz is doing.

I'm not against bringing Romo back. If Romo is up to speed. We won't know until he gets out there .

Here's the biggie though . Will anything but an injury get Romo out of the lineup?

Not sure, but it doesn't matter. I want Dak in Yoda-school mode. I don't want him trying to manage his body through the rigors of a season. I want him mentally engaged without the unnecessary punishment when he's not ready.
 

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Not sure, but it doesn't matter. I want Dak in Yoda-school mode. I don't want him trying to manage his body through the rigors of a season. I want him mentally engaged without the unnecessary punishment when he's not ready.
Lol. Ok but not sure what that means . I'd prefer us not needing Dak to carry us in his Rookie season sitting behind Romo a couple of years in a perfect world.
 

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I'd always figured we wouldn't have Romo's heir apparent on the roster at the same time .

Figured we'd need his career ending injury to draft our next franchise QB.

But we kinda fell into this deal and with Romo hurt. It does open the door for an opportunity unforeseen. I'm at least open to the possibility.

Dak could crash and burn this week . He's bound to throw a pick 6 and lose a game .We could be 1-5 at the bye and we're begging Romo to get out there with a walker. :)

Just never know how it unfolds. I'm just excited we might not be going back into the dark and gloomy ice age after Romo is done. Ha!
 

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So the Cowboys are choosing to start Dak over Romo or is it that Romo is injured, the back up is injured, so third string is up to bat now?

The way you present it, is that Romo isn't injured and Dak won the starting job over him.
Honestly no matter what Jerry says it's all going to come down to the next 3 games
 

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Jerry with his comment is already lobbying for Romo's return. I expect the more diehard Romo loyalist to follow suit.

This is damage control starting after Daks first win to derail any momentum he might gain if he continues to win and have success.

They aren't ready for the future yet. They're still all in on Romo to validate his career.

Not true, sir. Most people want who would be the best for the team at the moment. Romo has also stated that he gets a kick out of teaching Dak. The simple truth is that this season so far, Dak is doing amazingly well for a rookie, but he still has a long way to learn. Romo, if healthy, would be an upgrade at the position. This won't always be the case, and when Dak does get enough time learning and experience, he'll be the better choice. 99.9% of Romo fans are thrilled by Dak and the future he represents at the moment.
 

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Banana-rama ding-dong split right Y cross expy-alla-docious. Linehan just called in the play. The QB relays it in the huddle, and the offense breaks for the line of scrimmage.

What happens next? It entirely depends on the experience and acumen of your quarterback.

Most quarterbacks might send a receiver in motion because they don't like the coverage on that side, or to determine if a defense is in man or zone. He might switch his running back from his right side to his left, or send a tight end to the other side of the line of scrimmage. He'll point at the "mike" linebacker to give the line its key. He might even signal to a receiver to change a route, or just fake like he is to get a defender to change his position.

That's typical. That's what most NFL quarterbacks do. That's the level of their understanding, and what time will allow. Mostly, these quarterbacks are focused solely on their OWN responsibility because their confidence and football knowledge doesn't allow for much else. In the NFL, defenses are disguised so well that these old standard methods no longer tell much. They know it's about to move really, really fast, so hold on tight. Hut!

Elite quarterbacks see it entirely differently.

An elite QB runs the original play called about 30 percent of the time, if that. They change all sorts of things, maybe the play entirely. He is almost never fooled. He knows that the LB showing blitz isn't blitzing. That's a dummy. He knows that the safety over the top is going to shade to the left because of where the linebackers are. He saw that on tape. He knows the corners are going to play outside coverage, or inside, based on the position of the safeties and linebackers on this particular team. He generally knows who's blitzing, and if he's wrong, he knows where to go with the ball mid-play.

That was processed in a second or two, and that's just the beginning.

The elite QB goes to the line of scrimmage and plays out the play in his mind before the snap. Yes, Terrance Williams will be open as called, and he's the primary read. But if he can perhaps change Beasley's route to break the other direction, he can run off that safety playing closer than usual so Williams might be able to turn the play into a much longer gain. That linebacker might be coming, so switch Elliott to the left side in the flat if time doesn't allow for Williams. Or perhaps if he changes Witten's route to that side so he can go there if he's wrong about the safety. Then there's that linebacker on the left side that's going to blitz, so let's have Elliott chip him on his way to the flat. These are just a few of the adjustments being made.

Or....this play isn't going to work at all, so let's set up an entirely different protections and routes right then and there, or "kill" the play to the backup play, and start the reading process all over.

That all happens in about 10 seconds. Then 3, 2, snap. And that's just my very rudimentary understanding from afar.

To his incredible credit, Dak Prescott is already proficient in the former. He plays like a veteran already, and his mind is already processing at a sufficient rate to allow his talents to be successful much of the time. He has as much understanding as Weeden or Cassel right now, if not more. That is amazing for a rookie.

Romo can do the latter, and he admits it took him many years to learn it. He didn't have a mentor to teach him because Bledsoe never achieved that level, nor did Vinny. Only a rare few - Peyton, Brady, Rodgers, Brees, and the like - ever truly become master wizards. Romo tried the "wing it" style like his idol Farve for years, and it wasn't consistent. Rivers still tries to do it that way, as do others, to varying degrees of success

Romo has a willing student in Dak, who seems both serious and interested enough to go through the frustrating gauntlet of film study required to earn those stripes. Romo said he's willing to raise Jerry a replacement. I want to see this. I want Dak to achieve total consciousness, so he'll have that going for him after Romo.

Whatever the end holds for Romo this last year, two, or three, his final offering to this franchise should be to accelerate Dak along the path. Get him to Jedi level in half the time it took Romo to go it alone. Linehan and Garrett can't teach it; they never did it. No offensive coordinator can, or even if they could, they can't exactly teach it quite the same.

Looks like Dak is the real thing. Let's raise him right, eh Tony? Show him what you know.
Epic, as usual sir. Nothing to add or subtract.
 

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Jerry with his comment is already lobbying for Romo's return. I expect the more diehard Romo loyalist to follow suit.

This is damage control starting after Daks first win to derail any momentum he might gain if he continues to win and have success.

They aren't ready for the future yet. They're still all in on Romo to validate his career.
I'm not a Romo Loyalist but Romo is the man till his not. He currently is the man.
 

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Not going to hate on Diehardblues in particular, but, boy you're not kidding about Cowboys fans and how much they suck. They fawn all over NFCE rivals every season, roll over on the Cowboys at the drop of a hat, complain about the stadium, the money the owner spends on the franchise, turn on great veteran players at the drop of a hat and act pious about it while they're doing it, they're slow to recognize talent in the players we do have and just generally complain about the team all the way through otherwise competitive seasons. They take crap from fans of other teams who haven't won anything, and expect the worst leading into every single game. Plus, because the bandwagon is so large, we're just whiney and entitled and have a high percentage of fans who know very little about football to begin with. Call them on it, they'll tell you they're no different from NFL fans anywhere, but they are different because they're a lot more entitled and have such a high percentage of know-nothings who happen to think they know something because the team won some Superbowls once.


There needs to a X10000 likes button.

It's humiliating to even be associated with some of these buffoons.
 
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