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Nope. Disagree, except for agreeing on running the ball.

Explain how any veteran Olineman could have helped Tyler Smith with each man responsible with which Dlineman prior to the snap? I'm curious to see what you're thinking or seeing that I'm not.

Farniok has held up very well against power rushes. He only got pushed backwards 1 time in pass protection simply because he stood up too high. The other 3 or 4 times DJ Reader eventually got past him was because Farniok was leaning forward too much while Reader was clearly grabbing Farniok's jersey in between his shoulders and pulling down, thus causing Farniok to fall off balance leaning forward while Reader then swept by him. Tricky veteran dirty play by Reader, but it was a learning experience for Farniok. Stay balance with legs bent and buttocks set down while you fight to keep from being grabbed and pulled forward.

Peters can be beat due to his oversize, age and stiffness by quicker and powerful DEs/LBs. What saves him much is his girth against slower edge rushers.

I think you're absolutely wrong on Jason Peters.

You really believe this future HOFer will NOT improve communication and recognition of blitzes/DLine games on left side?

Peters even at ripe old age of 40 is still more savvy more effective pass protector than any Cowboys OL not named Zack Martin.

 
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The Eagles is not the team to be worried about, in my opinion. Hurts will not have time to hang out in the pocket and smoke a cigarette when they play the Cowboys. If Hurts beats the Cowboys, it will be due to the Cowboys letting him run wild on broken down plays.
Their offensive line has great strength, two very good tackles still very young, and one of the very best centers in the NFL.
 
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I pray you are right because Stephen & Jerry had the opportunity to do this in offseason but chose NOT to sign Von Miller.

If Jones braintrust do acquire an elite MLB or elite NT this season or even next offseason then I will become a believer.

sorry not at 20mil that far too much IMO. Please stop the nonsense. Of season over no going back just try and push forward. defense is playing well and Miller while nice not need Moreso to run defense is tryfi to find its way our pass rush is already tops in the league across the board. we have very nice backend and the best S group in years.. so why would you drop 20 mil on miller they offered him fair deal, he rejected it..

again, just stop we maybe could have used a WR or OL but we have help coming from both those positions. But miller was a Good non signing. Sorry but thats the wrong way to spend on an areas we are STRONG in.

curious where has Cox been i realize Barr was added but Cox i thought was ready to go and could be great addition to this LB core.,
 

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Is Farniok better with the line calls than Biadasz?

Biadasz is a former Rimington winner and very experienced center.

Because their run blocking ability is near equal and they both struggle at POA vs the bigger DTs in pass pro.

All things being equal, I'd stick with Biadasz in the pivot.
still believe Farniok has more upside. Ironic we ran Cwill out and hes doing well at C for the dolphins. So far anyway. Just saying Biadsz IMHO has peaked he is what he is and he is a weak link in pass protection see daks Hand , he missed the Reach block i see him not getting to a double or passing off twits and stunts fact eniogh.,he seems a tick behind.

we could strengthen the middle with,

73-Peters-Farinok-Martin-Steele is my preferred lineup.
 

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This group's forte is run blocking. The more that we can let them do that, the better off we will be. This roster is just built to run right now and Kellen Moore needs to lean into it.

This. And if the left side comes along as expected hopefully get back to that down hill running style offense that has been the staple for success of this team.
 

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Good eye. Farniok has played really well. He gets movement, gets to the 2nd level, I like watching him work.

They should consider Farniok at because when the Cowboys play defenses with a killer NT like Jordan Davis, Biadasz is going to get destroyed, while, I feel Farniok is holdup better.

Farniok was the worst rated player on the field last game and he was the one that got Dak hurt the first game. Farniok has been a disaster while Biadasz has been great. Clearly he has taken the next step as a young center.
 

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Peters was Bears most highly rated OL since 2017.

That's a span of 5 years.

And Peters 2021 PFF rating is higher than any Cowboy OL this season.



Do you understand that Farniok's PFF rating so far this season is less than 37?


Some people just have to be force fed.
 
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Peters was Bears most highly rated OL since 2017.

That's a span of 5 years.

And Peters 2021 PFF rating is higher than any Cowboy OL this season.



Do you understand that Farniok's PFF rating so far this season is less than 37?

That 37 rating by PFF on Farniok is a complete joke. I've noticed PFF do that to several Olinemen where it's not that bad. They used to pull the same crap on Connor Williams, and look who's correct now.
 

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PFF ratings has its flaws for sure but their stats are more indicative of productivity than your eye test and comprehension.
You keep saying that, yet I explain plays on videos better and more accurately many times.
 

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I think you're absolutely wrong on Jason Peters.

You really believe this future HOFer will NOT improve communication and recognition of blitzes/DLine games on left side?

Peters even at ripe old age of 40 is still more savvy more effective pass protector than any Cowboys OL not named Zack Martin.


We shall soon find out.
 
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It's early and they still need to pass so more test, but with Peters n McGovern being added to this group in few games, at the latest, the arrow is definitely pointing up.

I just hope KM let's these Big Boys smash people instead of pass blocking for 40 to 50 plays.
Totally agree
 

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Farniok was the worst rated player on the field last game and he was the one that got Dak hurt the first game. Farniok has been a disaster while Biadasz has been great. Clearly he has taken the next step as a young center.
Bull. Tyler Smith got beat first, and it was his man who hit Dak's hand first. Farniok followed afterwards. They both caused Dak's hand to get broken, not just one of them.
 

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Thankfully for teams they have you to pay their millions to instead of PFF.
Yeah, that's why PFF totally got it wrong against Connor Williams. I bet you gobbled up their bunk and demanded the Cowboys get rid of Connor Williams? Look who's right now?
 

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Farniok has played really well. Why would we want to start changing things up?

Farniok has been gaining valuable experience and we are able to evaluate him as he plays. That’s a win/win for the Cowboys.

Let’s see what the young guys can do. So far it’s good enough, and they will get better with time. I hope they let this play out and let Peters get back into game shape over the next several weeks.
Lol huh?. That dude has been the worse lineman when on the field. He has a FEW good plays but that's it!
 
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