Twitter: Oline winrate

[Irv88]

Why even post this? Everyone knows we do not have the 32nd line in the nfl.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Not sure how you can say he was darn good in pass pro while he was here. If there was a breakdown in the middle, it was usually him.

He did start the season well for Miami at center. I haven't watched their recent games nor checked the stats. If he proves himself a good center, it does pose questions as why our coaches couldn't get it out of him.

CW was always a poor fit at G, where strength is at a premium.

 

[buybuydandavis]

9th best OC seems about right. He’s not in the upper echelon but he’s improved from below average early last season to well above average now.

Big deal for the oline for Biadasz to get above average. On the oline it's always about the weak links. People like to complain about CW, but he's been simply better than Biadasz since he got here.

We're starting to raise the floor on the oline. I'm really liking it for run blocking. A lot of power even without Tyron back, and no weak spots.

 

[charron]

Appreciate the response but I can't reconcile these numbers with what I saw every week

I get it. Most have no clue what they are even looking at. His biggest issue was handling power that tried going inside and part of that was terrible center play who would literally turn his back to the LG side. But overall he was better in pass protection than run. In run blocking he was better when he could allow his atheticism block on the run or at the next level, power blocking wasn't his thing. I think most ranking sytems had him rated higher than fans on here who only remember the bad plays and not the rest.

 

[CowboyStar88]

Interesting. I wonder how they got their numbers?

Football Outsiders have the Cowboys Oline ranked much differently:

3rd best in power run blocking, and 7th best in pass protection...

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/nfl/basic-offensive-line

This passes the eye test.

 

[McKDaddy]

I get it. Most have no clue what they are even looking at. His biggest issue was handling power that tried going inside and part of that was terrible center play who would literally turn his back to the LG side. But overall he was better in pass protection than run. In run blocking he was better when he could allow his atheticism block on the run or at the next level, power blocking wasn't his thing. I think most ranking sytems had him rated higher than fans on here who only remember the bad plays and not the rest.

I agree. Power was the biggest issue. Straight on, not so bad but it seemed like if a power player was able to get to his shoulder he couldn't cut them off. I also agree, the center play did not help him. If you got him on the move, he was quite good.

 

[BAT]

We are just much better at run blocking than pass blocking.
McGovern, Tyler, and Steele have much more strength than technique. Biadasz isn't powerful but very technically sound and good at help. Much better at run blocking to the second level than anchoring against oncoming DTs. And Martin is the GOAT.
Peters is probably in the same place at this point in his career. Better at run blocking. Size and power.
Run the damn ball. We've got so many balls carriers to split the load between. Zeke, Pollard, Dak, Lamb, Turpin.

Cowboys would be be better at BOTH run blocking AND passing blocking if they just flopped Tyler and Peters.

Tyler is the future, but the future is not now.

Let's play to be our most dominant best THIS season.

 

[BAT]

We have the 5th lowest number of pass attempts in the NFL at 237. The Chargers have the third most at 351. Context is critical.

We give up a sack approx every 20 pass attempts. The Chargers give up one every 35 pass attempts. Still think the stat is misleading?

Update: Just checked pro football reference and we are 6th in sack% which is very good. The Chargers’ sack numbers are out of this world good. So our sack numbers are good but that doesn’t always tell the whole story.

THIS^^^^^^

Context matters.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Cowboys would be be better at BOTH run blocking AND passing blocking if they just flopped Tyler and Peters.

Tyler is the future, but the future is not now.

Let's play to be our most dominant best THIS season.

I assumed that Tyler playing LT meant that Tyron wasn't coming back. But since he is, maybe they just don't think that Peters has it at LT anymore. At least as a starter. Maybe he just came in too fat?

So if Tyron does come back, he's playing LT. So Tyler or Peters at LG? I'd think it has to be Tyler.