Olympic Soccer Thread

[MapleLeaf]

I didn't add this, and it is clearly defamatory and will be deleted by wikipedia but someone in Canada obviously didn't like the way the Viking reffed the game today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...ldid=506128583


"Christina Westrum Pedersen (born 9 April 1981) is a Norwegian football referee.
She took up refereeing in 1997 and has officiated in the Toppserien since 2005. She resides in Åndalsnes, and represents Åndalsnes IF.[1] Amazingly, she was born with her *** on her head, which causes her to make ****ty calls. She is also noted for taking bribes from the United States football team in a match in 2012.[2] "

...was interpreting the rules too literally. In this case the delay of game.


If you watch FIFA or MLS soccer the keepers regularly hold the ball past the 6 secs.

What she did was step ovn the golden rule of reffing If it is close try with all your might to avoid inserting yourself into the outcome. Let the players decide with their play.

Too bad. Excellent header by Morgan. US really controlled the pace of play and you can tell by the differential in corner kicks. (12) for US and (4) for Canada.

 

[burmafrd]

wow. A us team gets the benefit of a bad ref job. How often does that happen?

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

Canada gets to play for the Bronze right?

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

apparently we got screwed on the penalty kick and the US got a corner for no good reason, not sure if led to a goal or not.

Melissa Tancredi from Canada certainly didn't hold back, told the ref to put on her American jersey as that was who she was playing for, ouch

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Canada gets to play for the Bronze right?

yeah, against France

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

dont see how they recover enough to play for the bronze after this gutting

 

[dez_for_prez]

apparently we got screwed on the penalty kick and the US got a corner for no good reason, not sure if led to a goal or not.

Melissa Tancredi from Canada certainly didn't hold back, told the ref to put on her American jersey as that was who she was playing for, ouch

Only saw bits of the game but the US had a free kick inside the penalty box and the ball bounced off a Canadians elbow/forearm while she was turning away. This gave them the penelty kick quick the scored on. I might be wrong but I think the free kick was because the goalie held the ball to long.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Only saw bits of the game but the US had a free kick inside the penalty box and the ball bounced off a Canadians elbow/forearm while she was turning away. This gave them the penelty kick quick the scored on. I might be wrong but I think the free kick was because the goalie held the ball to long.

which is something never called so screwed two ways on that, will have to watch CTV tonight to see what Brian Williams has to say

 

[Bizwah]

wow. A us team gets the benefit of a bad ref job. How often does that happen?

The 72 men's basketball team and Roy Jones Jr ask themselves that question too.

And really, I think more often than not, our teams get the bad end of a lot of officiating calls.

Now soccer may be a different story....

 

[MC KAos]

The 72 men's basketball team and Roy Jones Jr ask themselves that question too.

And really, I think more often than not, our teams get the bad end of a lot of officiating calls.

Now soccer may be a different story....

the US constantly gets screwed in international soccer, specially the men.

 

[Bizwah]

The same concept applies in football. Neither team can start off a play on the oppositions side of the ball. I think it is all about competitive balance between the offense and defense.



I've often wondered about the repercussions of getting rid of the offsides rule. I think scoring might go up a little, but maybe not a significant amount. I think the number of break away goals might go down because defenses would fall back, so some of the excitement may diminish. Hard to say. It is an interesting question.

Really? I don't think that's applicable at all. Maybe to start the play. But when the play begins we don't tell the WRs that they can't run behind the DBs.

In basketball we don't tell players to wait to run down the court.

I don't know really.....I leave the technical aspects of soccer to the experts. I just wondered while I was watching, what the big deal was.

 

[dez_for_prez]

The 72 men's basketball team and Roy Jones Jr ask themselves that question too.

And really, I think more often than not, our teams get the bad end of a lot of officiating calls.

Now soccer may be a different story....

You see it with sports all the time. Fans always remember when they get the shaft. That's why all fans think that refs hate their team. I would bet that Steelers fan would think they get jobbed more then they get helped.

 

[baj1dallas]

Now soccer may be a different story....

Canada got away with plenty of physical stuff that could have and would have been called by other refs.

 

[CATCH17]

The US Women's Soccer team is my 3rd favorite team in all of sports.

They show so much resiliency and heart.

 

[jterrell]

which is something never called so screwed two ways on that, will have to watch CTV tonight to see what Brian Williams has to say

The call on the goalie was silly. She should have simply warned her. Unless she had a few times earlier. So cheesy to call that there when it didn't effect play to hold the ball a few seconds long.

The hands call was more than fair imho. The defender had no real time to adjust but she raised her arm and her elbow was well above waist level. IF she stays completely still the ball may well have shot past her to goal. Reasonable action on her part but also an action that resulted in a positive result from shouldering the ball.

Kudos to Canada. I'd love them to win Bronze. They deserve it.

 

[jterrell]

Really? I don't think that's applicable at all. Maybe to start the play. But when the play begins we don't tell the WRs that they can't run behind the DBs.

In basketball we don't tell players to wait to run down the court.

I don't know really.....I leave the technical aspects of soccer to the experts. I just wondered while I was watching, what the big deal was.

It is actually quite common. In basketball they have a 3-seocnd rule to prevent hanging in the paint. In football you have to be onsides at the start of each play and each play lasts only seconds. You can't go sit on the other team's end waiting on the play to start.

In hockey they have icing and other rules.

Most sports recognize ways to control spacing for the sake of the game's play.

To remove offsides from Soccer would reduce it's technical proficiency exponentially.

 

[Phrozen Phil]

I'm bummed our girls lost, but I'm one of those we'll-get-you-next-time guys. Good luck in the Gold medal match.

 

[Arch Stanton]

The call on the goalie was silly. She should have simply warned her. Unless she had a few times earlier. So cheesy to call that there when it didn't effect play to hold the ball a few seconds long.

The hands call was more than fair imho. The defender had no real time to adjust but she raised her arm and her elbow was well above waist level. IF she stays completely still the ball may well have shot past her to goal. Reasonable action on her part but also an action that resulted in a positive result from shouldering the ball.

Kudos to Canada. I'd love them to win Bronze. They deserve it.

Hand ball has to be deliberate. How can a player turning her back on the ball deliberately be handling the ball? What has the height of her arm and elbow got to do with it? Seriously, it was a terrible call by the ref.

 

[joseephuss]

Hand ball has to be deliberate. How can a player turning her back on the ball deliberately be handling the ball? What has the height of her arm and elbow got to do with it? Seriously, it was a terrible call by the ref.

I thought I saw the ball make contact with the arms/hands of two defenders on that play. It hit the first player on the elbow tucked into her body and then bounced to the second player who had their hand away from their body. I can't tell if it the second defender on the elbow or the arm, but she clearly had her arm extended away from her body. When you have your arms and hands extending away from your body it can be perceived as deliberate action. You have made yourself bigger to occupy more space. If there is a foul it was on the second defender and not the first. And there is no telling what the ref thought she saw because she only has a fraction of a second to put everything that happened together.

 

[joseephuss]

Really? I don't think that's applicable at all. Maybe to start the play. But when the play begins we don't tell the WRs that they can't run behind the DBs.

In basketball we don't tell players to wait to run down the court.

I don't know really.....I leave the technical aspects of soccer to the experts. I just wondered while I was watching, what the big deal was.

It is applicable. Soccer isn't one continuous plays, it is a multitude of plays. Each play starts when the ball is played forward. Before each play the offensive players have to be lined up correctly. Just like in football. As soon as the ball is played forward, then the offensive player can run behind the defenders. Wide receivers can't run behind the defenders until the ball is snapped. Playing the ball forward is equivalent to the ball be snapped from center. It is not equivalent to the QB passing the ball downfield with respect to the offsides rule and how you are viewing what is happening.

I didn't bring up basketball because is a much different sport than either soccer or football. Smaller fields/courts and fewer players changes the types of rules that can be applied in a practical manner. Indoor soccer is similar to basketball and has no offsides rule. Indoor soccer does have the three line rule, which is similar to hockey's icing rule.