On 4th and 3 we go deep?

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The play worked. It was a bad call, but it worked. Don't second guess plays that work. A jump ball to Dez is a pretty high percentage play, and Tony put it on the money.

You must not be a poker player. Like I said above, you can't analyze a playcall simply based on whether it worked in that particular instance.

The play worked, but it was an extremely risky play. Even in 1-on-1 coverage, that's a coin flip at best. Give me the better odds to move the chains every time.
 

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With most of the coverage was underneath no it was not the higher percentage. GB was in coverage to stop the shorter routes, which is why Dez was left alone on the outside with no safety help. The pass was there the catch was made.
Yes it was. He gambled with the season, the staff gambled with the season, and we lost. There was too much time to be trying to go for it all. If it were 3rd down, would have been the perfect play.
 

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I think you also take into account the defensive coverage. GB also knows this is 3 yards needed so where was their coverage? It was in the shorter routs this is why there was no help over the top on Dez. Heck even the Dallas defense in some 4th down situation this season played for the short rout the receiver makes the catch and we hit them before the 1st down. Marker. Romo saw the coverage with Dez vs a much smaller CB and put the ball up to a guy with the ability to go up and get it.

I agree, the coverage plays a factor. It's still a low-percentage throw.

In the end, I'm not mad at the decision (unlike OP). Two playmakers decided they would try and go make a play. I just ultimately thought they should have taken a different approach given the down and distance and time left on the clock.
 

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Yes it was. He gambled with the season, the staff gambled with the season, and we lost. There was too much time to be trying to go for it all. If it were 3rd down, would have been the perfect play.

he hit the target and Dez our best WR made the catch. I have no issue going to my best WR on the team vs a lesser talented CB in a one on one. GB coverage was looking for the shorter routs this is why the safeties were playing up.
 

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I agree, the coverage plays a factor. It's still a low-percentage throw.

In the end, I'm not mad at the decision (unlike OP). Two playmakers decided they would try and go make a play. I just ultimately thought they should have taken a different approach given the down and distance and time left on the clock.

Not when my #1 WR is matched up with a much smaller CB with no help at all that is not low percentage. Having GB in short coverage is not a give me by any means.
 

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I'm sorry.

With 4 minutes to play and needing only short yardage to keep the drive going..

Romo goes deep and there is no options to choose from.

Who called this play and why?

Sure..

if it's less than a minute to play and its desparate..

roll the dice deep.

But not when it was done.

Cole Beasley?

Yep.

Jason Witten?

Yep.

A swing pass to Murray?

Romo roll out and look for Williams.

But chuck the ball on a lick and a promise with so much time and so little needed?

Sounds like somebody needs to be talked to and straightened out.

Maybe demoted.

He did catch it didn't he? He just didn't complete the motion to the ground.
 

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Yes it was. He gambled with the season, the staff gambled with the season, and we lost. There was too much time to be trying to go for it all. If it were 3rd down, would have been the perfect play.

Lets put it this way: if Romo had missed his target, or the defender made the play on the ball to break it up, most people on CZ would have been livid about the call. Instead of all the "The refs suck!" threads, we would be seeing "Why did we throw a bomb when we only needed three yards!?!?" threads. People are only defending the play because "it worked," not because it was the right playcall given that situation.

It's a version of a post hoc fallacy. People are analyzing the odds based on what they know now rather than from an ad hoc perspective.

Either way, it's not worth getting into a tizzy. We had tons of chances to put the dagger in and we choked them away.
 

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You trust your QB in those spots. Tony got Dez singled, made a great throw,and the ball was caught. I will take that every time. This is football. You play to win. No issue at all for me on that decision........

It was a horrible call you take the safe option, it is never good idea to try to complete a low percentage long throw. Yes he completed it but it wasn't the smart thing to do at the time.
 

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It was a horrible call you take the safe option, it is never good idea to try to complete a low percentage low throw.

what makes it low percentage? Because of the length? Romo got the matchup he wanted and he completed the pass to Dez. GB is sitting on the short routs with safeties up again looking for the short routs that is no give me.
 

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Romo made the correct read. GB had everyone at the LOS and was blitzing. They actually doubled Witten. Williams had 1-on-1 but isn't great at quickly winning off the LOS. Beasley had some room and Romo probably could've gone to him over the middle. Dez had 1-on-1 on the outside, which Romo quickly determined was his throw. Not much time to go through progressions when the defense is bringing free rushers at you.
 

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We've seen that downfield throw from Romo to Dez in single coverage quite a bit this season. I don't think it's all that low percentage a throw with those two. Assuming it's not overturned for no good reason.

It was a risky throw relative to some things we could have gone with there, though. It made sense against the coverage, and I like going for it when the defense gives it to you. I can see people not liking putting all our eggs in that particular basket, though.
 

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We've seen that downfield throw from Romo to Dez in single coverage quite a bit this season. I don't think it's all that low percentage a throw with those two. Assuming it's not overturned for no good reason.

It was a risky throw relative to some things we could have gone with there, though. It made sense against the coverage, and I like going for it when the defense gives it to you. I can see people not liking putting all our eggs in that particular basket, though.

going for it on 4th is putting all your eggs in the basket. I'm going to my best playmaking WR in a one on one. Had safety been back I would be more inclined to go over the middle to Witten vs a LB or Beasley but then I think GB coverage was looking for just that
 

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I'm sorry.

With 4 minutes to play and needing only short yardage to keep the drive going..

Romo goes deep and there is no options to choose from.

Who called this play and why?

Sure..

if it's less than a minute to play and its desparate..

roll the dice deep.

But not when it was done.

Cole Beasley?

Yep.

Jason Witten?

Yep.

A swing pass to Murray?

Romo roll out and look for Williams.

But chuck the ball on a lick and a promise with so much time and so little needed?

Sounds like somebody needs to be talked to and straightened out.

Maybe demoted.

I agree. Your posting privileges should be demoted.
 

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Romo and Dez made a great play. But it was too risky with the season on the line. Do it on 3rd or whatever, but 4th and 2 is to low of a percentage for me there.

It should have worked and was a ballsy play yet I would have went with a high % play in that situation. Since they went for it all, glad it was to Dez to go up and make a play.
 

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I'm sorry.

With 4 minutes to play and needing only short yardage to keep the drive going..

Romo goes deep and there is no options to choose from.

Who called this play and why?

Sure..

if it's less than a minute to play and its desparate..

roll the dice deep.

But not when it was done.

Cole Beasley?

Yep.

Jason Witten?

Yep.

A swing pass to Murray?

Romo roll out and look for Williams.

But chuck the ball on a lick and a promise with so much time and so little needed?

Sounds like somebody needs to be talked to and straightened out.

Maybe demoted.

It was one of the best, most accurate passes of his career. Please !!!
 

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what makes it low percentage? Because of the length? Romo got the matchup he wanted and he completed the pass to Dez. GB is sitting on the short routs with safeties up again looking for the short routs that is no give me.

At such an important time throwing long is a risk compared to throwing it short. Romo had Dunbar and Beasley for an easy first down which would have given them a fresh set of downs and they could have run more time off the clock.
 

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Ideally you'd just like to get a first down and continue to drain the clock but the throw was made and completed. Then we got screwed.

I have a tough time criticizing anybody on offense. They were exceptional this year.
 

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It's going to be a long 9 months.

God willing I'm still here in September for the Cowboys' revenge tour.
 

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At such an important time throwing long is a risk compared to throwing it short. Romo had Dunbar and Beasley for an easy first down which would have given them a fresh set of downs and they could have run more time off the clock.

well we just disagree. Romo saw what he had outside he saw the coverage the Pack were in and he went to his playmaker. You say these guys were open I'm not so certain they were. The call that came in was not a 1 option play, Romo saw the coverage and based on that coverage he knew exactly where he was going.
 
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