On 4th and 3 we go deep?

[jjktkk]

And the hindsight police finally arrives.

 

[SDCowboy]

When a thread starts out with i'm Sorry...9 times out of 10 I wind up being sorry I read the rest of it.

Either that or when a poster has to start their post by ensuring us that they're a fan.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

i dont care if its 1st and 1 or 4th and 80...if you have dez in single coverage...then you always throw that ball

 

[erod]

It's not a lick and a promise when Dez has consistently won these balls all year, and he's up against a 5-8 corner.

Perfect decision, perfect execution, blown call on a horrifically ill-defined rule.

 

[ufcrules1]

Not with Dez.

One-on-one, he makes that catch the majority of the time. And he made that catch again, we just got screwed by something out of our control.

Plus, don't forget...we needed to score a TD at that juncture as well. It wasn't like we were up by 5 points.

YR

I still think it is a low % play when you throw a deeper ball like that. Anything can happen, receiver/defender could get tangled up, wind could effect the ball, receiver could fall out of bounds, etc. I understand how you feel about Dez because I feel the same way. I love the one on one toss up play but I'm just being honest with myself that it is not a higher % play than throwing a simple 3 yard pass.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Either that or when a poster has to start their post by ensuring us that they're a fan.

Reminds me of the ancient aliens guy...

 

[Rockport]

I'm sorry.

With 4 minutes to play and needing only short yardage to keep the drive going..

Romo goes deep and there is no options to choose from.

Who called this play and why?

Sure..

if it's less than a minute to play and its desparate..

roll the dice deep.

But not when it was done.

Cole Beasley?

Yep.

Jason Witten?

Yep.

A swing pass to Murray?

Romo roll out and look for Williams.

But chuck the ball on a lick and a promise with so much time and so little needed?

Sounds like somebody needs to be talked to and straightened out.

Maybe demoted.

The play worked. It was one of the best pass and catch plays in NFL playoff history. Deal with it. Jeez, I just can't believe the ignorance.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

I still think it is a low % play when you throw a deeper ball like that. Anything can happen, receiver/defender could get tangled up, wind could effect the ball, receiver could fall out of bounds, etc. I understand how you feel about Dez because I feel the same way. I love the one on one toss up play but I'm just being honest with myself that it is not a higher % play than throwing a simple 3 yard pass.

tangled up = PI. Another reason you throw the long ball.

I guess youd prefer a stuffed run, or a fumble during the run or after the catch. Beasley and Murray both had some fumble problems at times.

 

[Rockport]

Romo to Dez with one on one coverage is a high percentage play. Those who think otherwise either don't watch the Cowboys games or are just trolling.

 

[SDCowboy]

I still think it is a low % play when you throw a deeper ball like that. Anything can happen, receiver/defender could get tangled up, wind could effect the ball, receiver could fall out of bounds, etc. I understand how you feel about Dez because I feel the same way. I love the one on one toss up play but I'm just being honest with myself that it is not a higher % play than throwing a simple 3 yard pass.

The % is irrelevant when it was perfectly executed on both ends and completed.

 

[hornitosmonster]

I like this go for the Kill attitude. Keep it up Boys!!

 

[Vanilla2]

You're not questioning the call if it's not overturned.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I still think it is a low % play when you throw a deeper ball like that. Anything can happen, receiver/defender could get tangled up, wind could effect the ball, receiver could fall out of bounds, etc. I understand how you feel about Dez because I feel the same way. I love the one on one toss up play but I'm just being honest with myself that it is not a higher % play than throwing a simple 3 yard pass.

I just think if the play is there, you take it.

If I worry about the negative that could happen, it ignores the fact that the negatives could happen if you take the safe play as well. The path to playing great football requires you to do more than make safe plays.

You could throw to Beasley and he could slip. You could throw to Escobar and the ball might get tipped by a Packers player.

I think the score is a big factor as well. You have to score a TD. If we were up by 5 points, then I would say go for the safe play (although I wouldn't hate the pass to Dez).

It's about playing to win instead of playing not lose. I don't want us to be flat out dumb and careless. But for the past 20 seasons we have been a safe organization (even in the Parcells era). This season we finally play to win and we go 12-4 and took it to the Packers in Lambeau and got screwed on a call that exposed the league's officiating for the frauds they are.





YR

 

[EPL0c0]

Dez had man coverage. Like Dez said, it's a play they've run before.

Week 7 vs NYG, 3rd and 8 (similar spot on the field). I liked the play call (just like I liked the 3rd and ?1? audible to a pass to TWill). It fit the aggressive, killer instinct that the offense had shown this year. And frankly, Romo can hit it on either side of the field.

@2:37 mark

 

[links18]

I throw that pass on third down, not fourth (I forget what we actually did on third down. In fact, I think I have blocked out just about everything else from that game) But whatever, he threw it, Dez caught it and the REFS/ NFL office robbed us because their rules are so complicated they don't even understand them.

 

[romothesavior]

I actually agree with the OP. I wasn't happy with the play at the time either. When talking about play selection, you have to analyze the probabilities before the play, not the outcome afterwards.

If I give a hypothetical situation, what do you choose: 4th and short, down one score, a couple minutes to play, in enemy territory. Should we (A) throw a fade up for grabs, or (B) run a high percentage route to move the chains?

Again, forget what happened or didn't happen on that play. In a "veil of ignorance" universe where I don't know what happens, I pick (B) every time. The odds of completing a slant, drag, option route to Witten, dump off to Murray, etc. are so much higher.

 

[DoctorChicken]

I didn't like the decision at all. It is a very low % throw regardless of a one on one match up. I thought it was a very bad idea and took an amazing catch by Dez to even make it happen. There was also a lot of time left in the game, so we didn't need to go to the end zone. Very bad idea.

Would you have preferred for Romo to take a sack? That's pretty much the only other option. Everyone else was covered, so Tony did what he had to do.

 

[Doomsday101]

I actually agree with the OP. I wasn't happy with the play at the time either. When talking about play selection, you have to analyze the probabilities before the play, not the outcome afterwards.

If I give a hypothetical situation, what do you choose: 4th and short, down one score, a couple minutes to play, in enemy territory. Should we (A) throw a fade up for grabs, or (B) run a high percentage route to move the chains?

Again, forget what happened or didn't happen on that play. In a "veil of ignorance" universe where I don't know what happens, I pick (B) every time. The odds of completing a slant, drag, option route to Witten, dump off to Murray, etc. are so much higher.

I think you also take into account the defensive coverage. GB also knows this is 3 yards needed so where was their coverage? It was in the shorter routs this is why there was no help over the top on Dez. Heck even the Dallas defense in some 4th down situation this season played for the short rout the receiver makes the catch and we hit them before the 1st down. Marker. Romo saw the coverage with Dez vs a much smaller CB and put the ball up to a guy with the ability to go up and get it.

 

[bounce]

The play worked. It was a bad call, but it worked. Don't second guess plays that work. A jump ball to Dez is a pretty high percentage play, and Tony put it on the money.

 

[Clove]

I didn't like the decision at all. It is a very low % throw regardless of a one on one match up. I thought it was a very bad idea and took an amazing catch by Dez to even make it happen. There was also a lot of time left in the game, so we didn't need to go to the end zone. Very bad idea.

We're sitting at home because we gambled. There is a time to gamble, that was not the time.