One thing we forget about Wade Phillips' defense.

[Ben_n_austin]

There are so many places that this team could go wrong with all the new coordinators and philisophies and coaching styles and team mentalities. However, the same thing happens whenever a new coach steps in. Whatever happens I am not going to bash Phillips because he was brought it to take chances, and that is the way his defense works. I will blame garret and Jerrah if this offense screws up; you don't fix something if it is working, you tune it; I think that is all that Sporano needed to do was tweak.

I regards to your recievers statement, You are right, but unless you are using the passing game to control the clock ala West-Coast I don't really care about passing; you pass to score, run to win IMO. LT was the reason SD did so damn well last year, Phillip Rivers was damn lucky to have him.

By the way, Garrett's version of the offense that he plans to implement in Dallas is a variation of the West Coast offense. (fyi)

 

[superpunk]

Agreed; by the way superpunk do you or anybody else know if Romo was given the volition(right) to audible?

I believe two plays came in to our huddle every down. The run and pass. If the QB walked up to the line and didn't like the look, we often saw them going to that "kill" signal, which IIRC signified that we were moving to the secondary call (pass or run). I think there was an article written about that.

I kind of doubt Romo had the full playbook open to him to audibilize out of on each play - JMO.

 

[Ben_n_austin]

For whatever it is worth:

In 16 of his 25 years as a defensive coordinator or head coach, the offenses of Wade Phillips' teams were in the top 10 for # of rushing attempts and # of rushing yards.

Phillips has coached on teams with fine RBs, including George Rogers, Earl Campbell, Keith Byars, Bobby Humphrey, Thurman Thomas, the Duckett & Warrick Dunn combo in Atlanta, and LaDainian Tomlinson.

Antowain Smith and Gaston Green each had 1,000 yard seasons when Phillips was coaching on their team.

Clearly, then, many of Phillips' defenses have had the support of a fine running game.

But that doesn't mean that his defenses were successful only because they were supported by solid running games. It goes two ways. If Phillips' defenses gave up too many points, his offenses would have had to abandon the run.

Excellent post.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

With the improved Wade D, we should only need the offense to score like that did last year.....and we will be great.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

By the way, Garrett's version of the offense that he plans to implement in Dallas is a variation of the West Coast offense. (fyi)

Where did you get that info, asks Blondie? confused

And scoring too fast is never a problem. Every offensive coordinator would score on the first play of every drive if he could. The problem comes with quick three-and-outs.

 

[Doomsdayblitz]

I'm sorry, but I don't get the point of this whole thread. Let's not score too fast or too much, or throw too long...... .

Look, teams that score more than the other guys win games. Also, when you get behind against an attacking defense, they attack you even more. So many teams in the 70s were so afraid of getting behind the Cowboys for fear of our "Doomsday Defense" pinning its ears back & having QB for lunch. I don't think Roger Staubach was on the bench watching his cohorts feed on enemy quarterbacks thinking, "I'd better pull it back a notch next series. Don't want to get too far ahead of these guys."

I say, attack, attack, attack!! Attack with your rushing game. Attack with your passing game. Attack with your special teams. Attack with your cheerleaders! We gotta lick 'em any way we can!

 

[BouncingCheese]

For whatever it is worth:

In 16 of his 25 years as a defensive coordinator or head coach, the offenses of Wade Phillips' teams were in the top 10 for # of rushing attempts and # of rushing yards.

Phillips has coached on teams with fine RBs, including George Rogers, Earl Campbell, Keith Byars, Bobby Humphrey, Thurman Thomas, the Duckett & Warrick Dunn combo in Atlanta, and LaDainian Tomlinson.

Antowain Smith and Gaston Green each had 1,000 yard seasons when Phillips was coaching on their team.

Clearly, then, many of Phillips' defenses have had the support of a fine running game.

But that doesn't mean that his defenses were successful only because they were supported by solid running games. It goes two ways. If Phillips' defenses gave up too many points, his offenses would have had to abandon the run.

Side note: I can't believe the Pats won a Super Bowl with Antowain Smith as their starting running back. Unbelievable.

If they can do that, then who is to say we can't do even better.

 

[Ben_n_austin]

Where did you get that info, asks Blondie? confused:

Article:

Cowboys buy in, but will they deliver?
James tells us that you can already see the fruits of Garrett's labor in Tony Romo. He says the club will include looks that "have a resemblance to the West Coast offense while taking advantage of Romo's athletic ability and accuracy."


entire link---> http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6817402

 

[Ben_n_austin]

And scoring too fast is never a problem. Every offensive coordinator would score on the first play of every drive if he could. The problem comes with quick three-and-outs.

Stand corrected. Every offensive coordinator would love to run as much clock out as he can and then score.

 

[Ben_n_austin]

I'm sorry, but I don't get the point of this whole thread. Let's not score too fast or too much, or throw too long...... .

Look, teams that score more than the other guys win games. Also, when you get behind against an attacking defense, they attack you even more. So many teams in the 70s were so afraid of getting behind the Cowboys for fear of our "Doomsday Defense" pinning its ears back & having QB for lunch. I don't think Roger Staubach was on the bench watching his cohorts feed on enemy quarterbacks thinking, "I'd better pull it back a notch next series. Don't want to get too far ahead of these guys."

I say, attack, attack, attack!! Attack with your rushing game. Attack with your passing game. Attack with your special teams. Attack with your cheerleaders! We gotta lick 'em any way we can!

ATTACK!!! :chainsaw: ... with no rhyme or reason to suit the rest of the team... and its goals....





You mean like the Raiders attack?

 

[betrue00]

The problem with Phillys offense is that when they get a lead they continue to throw the ball. That sometimes plays into the other team hand. I see no problem building a lead with quick scores and then going to more of a running game to run some clock.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

So an offense includes some "looks that have a resemblance" to the WCO = the entire offense being based on a variation of the WCO?

Okay.

 

[Ben_n_austin]

So an offense includes some "looks that have a resemblance" to the WCO = the entire offense being based on a variation of the WCO?

Okay.

No dude, "variation" has a broad meaning. In this context it could mean variation(s).

...meanting that, any offense that includes WCO style offense is, in fact, by definition a variation. Perhaps I could have chose my words differently, but the Cowboys have been taking pages from the WC play books for the past 5 or so years. So I'll just stick with variation. And I'll leave the rest up to your imagination and you can twist it however you want.

Sounds fun, huh?

 

[Ben_n_austin]

The problem with Phillys offense is that when they get a lead they continue to throw the ball. That sometimes plays into the other team hand. I see no problem building a lead with quick scores and then going to more of a running game to run some clock.

to the board.

Watch out! It's highly addicting....

And I agree on your philosophy. I like to strike first. That's an obvious part of the game, of course, but you also have to play methodically on both sides of the ball. And I'm always interested in the general, overall, strategy of my team. And maybe even some (or all) of the details and philosophies behind the play book(s). Though it's never possible to obtain...

 

[dogunwo]

I believe two plays came in to our huddle every down. The run and pass. If the QB walked up to the line and didn't like the look, we often saw them going to that "kill" signal, which IIRC signified that we were moving to the secondary call (pass or run). I think there was an article written about that.

I kind of doubt Romo had the full playbook open to him to audibilize out of on each play - JMO.

There is no way he did. Parcells did his best to keep Romo grounded and wanted to make sure Romo didnt go into a nasty habit of bad improvising.

 

[speedkilz88]

Ben/Banned, Garrett is running the Norv/Zampese timing offense and using some of the things he liked from his experience with the WCO including things that suit Owens.

 

[Ben_n_austin]

Ben/Banned, Garrett is running the Norv/Zampese timing offense and using some of the things he liked from his experience with the WCO including things that suit Owens.

And you don't think that T.O., Mr. YAC, will want to run some west coast routes?

 

[speedkilz88]

And you don't think that T.O., Mr. YAC, will want to run some west coast routes?

Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit is it?

 

[Ben_n_austin]

Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit is it?

(Rhetorical question)

The content of your retort shows how weak your point really is. I'm not saying anything other than we'll run a variation of the WCO.

That's how this all got started. Think about all the possibilities that can associate themselves with the word variation. That may give you some clues as to where you got lost.

 

[speedkilz88]

(Rhetorical question)

The content of your retort shows how weak your point really is. I'm not saying anything other than we'll run a variation of the WCO.

That's how this all got started. Think about all the possibilities that can associate themselves with the word variation. That may give you some clues as to where you got lost.

BS translator////

BannednAustin/BennAustin/AGS realizes he was wrong, he just doesn't want to admit he was wrong so he will hide behind the word "variation".