Flamma
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honestly you can probably say that about every position.
Could be. But I think teams tend to reach far more often in the first round with QBs.
honestly you can probably say that about every position.
I'm wondering less about Jerry folding, and more about whether Dak just plans to ride out franchise tags until he gets to free agency. That's the way it has looked to me. I have yet to hear the Dak side say "Here's *my* offer". It's always just rejecting offers from Jerry.I don't have stats on that but yes, most teams fold, that's true. But I think the more relevant concern is to look at what happens to teams that sign those deals. Romo and the Cowboys, never had cap to bring in enough talent. Wasted a lot of careers in those years.
That's my argument. We've under investing in QB, and particularly in roster spots, preferring the washed up bus driver over a young guy to give a chance for a long time.One could argue that the investment in the "next two"- a single fourth round pick, is a gross under-investment in the single most important position on the team.
We've seen 4.5 years of Dak. Nothing but stats-most of which were from playing when behind or vs flex defenses in garbage time. When do you call it quits on a guy? 9 years? 10? We did that with ROMO and how did that work out. He can't beat good teams.
We're doomed to 8-8 if he signs. Again.
Zeke was Jerry's 1st mistake and he needs to learn from it.
Do you have statistics for rounds 2,3,4,5,6,7 and UDFA?60% of 1st round QBs flop or have poor careers.
20% have ok careers
20% have stellar careers.
Two first round picks is not nearly enough to jump in the Vegas casino called Draft Your Next QB.
That and the "experts" are not very good at evaluating college qb's !That isn't a very surprising statistic since a the worst teams pick the top QB's and these guys start their careers in an organization that is wholly devoid of any good culture or coaching stability. I have often said that Tom Brady wouldn't be Tom Brady if he was drafted by the Cleveland Browns.
Stay with Dak nothing like ineptness and 8-9 results every season!60% of 1st round QBs flop or have poor careers.
20% have ok careers
20% have stellar careers.
Two first round picks is not nearly enough to jump in the Vegas casino called Draft Your Next QB.
Pretty good chance those QBs are chosen in the first round because the team taking them is also a bad team and maybe bad coaching too. But for many of those QBs they are busts. The thing about taking a QB in the first round is if you look at who is winning a SB in the last 15 years and take Brady out if the equation it's mostly first round QBs with a few outliers sprinkled in.60% of 1st round QBs flop or have poor careers.
20% have ok careers
20% have stellar careers.
Two first round picks is not nearly enough to jump in the Vegas casino called Draft Your Next QB.
Pretty good chance those QBs are chosen in the first round because the team taking them is also a bad team and maybe bad coaching too. But for many of those QBs they are busts. The thing about taking a QB in the first round is if you look at who is winning a SB in the last 15 years and take Brady out if the equation it's mostly first round QBs with a few outliers sprinkled in.
You can't go back to the 2000 Ravens defense because the league has changed and you can't hit the QB or WRs going over the middle like you used to. Everything has changed to favor the offense and if you don't have a premier QB your team regardless of the defense isn't going anywhere. Your best chances of getting that pedigree are in the first round. This whole situation with Dak and his contract and deciding to keep him is so muddled because of his injury and also the money he wants. It almost makes it easier to want to move on from him.
Which is why signing Dak is important. Wanting these unproven QBs isnt with it in my opinion. Unless we HAVE the pick and nt trading up for it60% of 1st round QBs flop or have poor careers.
20% have ok careers
20% have stellar careers.
Two first round picks is not nearly enough to jump in the Vegas casino called Draft Your Next QB.
Pro Bowl 6th alternate, come on guy DURRRRRRRRRRRRR. You are one of the 40%, Too Funny.You’re wasting your breath.
We live in a country in which 40% of the population either ignores FACTS or aren’t smart enough to process the information. That’s painfully clear in 2021.
It’s the same ratio on this board.
“DURRRR LET’S GET RID OF OUR YOUNG PRO BOWL QB (SINCE THOSE GUYS GROW ON TREES) FOR A MINUSCULE CHANCE AT A QB UPGRADE IN THE DRAFT DURRRRRRRR!!!!!!”
this is from 2016 , bet it hasn't changed much.60% of 1st round QBs flop or have poor careers.
20% have ok careers
20% have stellar careers.
Two first round picks is not nearly enough to jump in the Vegas casino called Draft Your Next QB.
The ignorance here never ceases to amaze me.We've seen 4.5 years of Dak. Nothing but stats-most of which were from playing when behind or vs flex defenses in garbage time. When do you call it quits on a guy? 9 years? 10? We did that with Garrett and how did that work out. He can't beat good teams.
We're doomed to 8-8 if he signs. Again.
Zeke was Jerry's 1st mistake and he needs to learn from it.
Too many fans buy into the idea that you can just go pick “the QB tree” and get a good one. Finding a good QB is by far the hardest position to fill adequately, which is why so many teams are willing to take big chances in the draft. And why the market for QB pay is so high.
That’s a good question. I’ve believed for years that the parts of a QB’s game that are undervalued are leadership, how well they play under pressure, what kind of team they were surrounded by. I believe both scouts and fans are over enamored with arm strength and athleticism and fail to see a college QB in context of the team they played for and how his play impacted that team.It makes me wonder if there's a fundamental flaw in the way prospective quarterbacks are evaluated.
this is from 2016 , bet it hasn't changed much.
https://www.milehighreport.com/2017/6/28/15880748/success-rates-of-drafted-quarterbacks