Only in Dallas do they need so many leaders

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How many "leaders" does a team need?

How many true "leaders" do the Super Bowl champs have? I count one - Tom Brady. The rest are replaceable parts who either get with the program or get lost.

How many guys does it take for a team to be successful? The Cowboys apparently need a whole lot, and all of that leadership somehow doesn't manage to keep the screwups from screwing up again and again and again, does it?

Only our Cowboys need to pay all of these players to be "team leaders". Players who don't actually contribute on the field when it truly matters, but cheerleaders who 'say' the right things, but can't actually 'do' those right things, or not anymore anyway.

I've never seen a team that apparently has such a leadership void that they need to overpay half of their roster because they're 'leaders'.
 
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It’s an entitled culture where accountability does not exist for the management... why would it exist for the rest of the team?

Excuses are offered up at every occasion. Our owner literally went on record and blamed the field conditions in LA and the team’s cleats for the playoff L.

When you have that kind of denial happening at the top of the organization... bad losses are excused as mediocrity, mediocrity is affirmed as good, and anything good is lauded as elite/excellent.

They are content to chase excellence and excuse their failure to attain it by affirming their efforts in the pursuit. Therefore— nothing ever really changes.
 

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It’s an entitled culture where accountability does not exist for the management... why would it exist for the rest of the team?

Excuses are offered up at every occasion. Our owner literally went on record and blamed the field conditions in LA and the team’s cleats for the playoff L.

When you have that kind of denial happening at the top of the organization... bad losses are excused as mediocrity, mediocrity is affirmed as good, and anything good is lauded as elite/excellent.

They are content to chase excellence and excuse their failure to attain it by affirming their efforts in the pursuit. Therefore— nothing ever really changes.

You're right about that, the lack of accountability starts at the top and trickles down, like someone peeing on your head and telling you it's raining.
 

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How many "leaders" does a team need?

How many true "leaders" do the Super Bowl champs have? I count one - Tom Brady. The rest are irreplaceable parts who either get with the program or get lost.

How many guys does it take for a team to be successful? The Cowboys apparently need a whole lot, and all of that leadership somehow doesn't manage to keep the screwups from screwing up again and again and again, does it?

Only our Cowboys need to pay all of these players to be "team leaders". Players who don't actually contribute on the field when it truly matters, but cheerleaders who 'say' the right things, but can't actually 'do' those right things, or not anymore anyway.

I've never seen a team that apparently has such a leadership void that they need to overpay half of their roster because they're 'leaders'.

The Patriots only need one player as team leader because everyone knows who is in charge when it comes to management - the head coach.

Dallas' friends & family plan enables players to undermine the coaching staff when desired, so there's a need for multiple players to help steer the ship.

One organization is winning while the other talks about winning.
 

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How many "leaders" does a team need?

How many true "leaders" do the Super Bowl champs have? I count one - Tom Brady. The rest are irreplaceable parts who either get with the program or get lost.

How many guys does it take for a team to be successful? The Cowboys apparently need a whole lot, and all of that leadership somehow doesn't manage to keep the screwups from screwing up again and again and again, does it?

Only our Cowboys need to pay all of these players to be "team leaders". Players who don't actually contribute on the field when it truly matters, but cheerleaders who 'say' the right things, but can't actually 'do' those right things, or not anymore anyway.

I've never seen a team that apparently has such a leadership void that they need to overpay half of their roster because they're 'leaders'.

I have a feeling you mean replaceable parts...not irreplaceable parts.

But that's just a guess.
 

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It depends on the team... and the "quality" of the "leader/s" that you mentioned...

You can have one like Tom Brady who just by his presence and him walking around with a hand full of rings probably commands respect of that entire lockerroom to buy in...

Of you have multiple leaders like that Seahawks roster who had Sherman, Wanger, Thomas, Wilson, Beast mode... does having multiple leaders not as good as having just one true one?

It all just depends on the team and the situation
 
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How many "leaders" does a team need?

How many true "leaders" do the Super Bowl champs have? I count one - Tom Brady. The rest are irreplaceable parts who either get with the program or get lost.

How many guys does it take for a team to be successful? The Cowboys apparently need a whole lot, and all of that leadership somehow doesn't manage to keep the screwups from screwing up again and again and again, does it?

Only our Cowboys need to pay all of these players to be "team leaders". Players who don't actually contribute on the field when it truly matters, but cheerleaders who 'say' the right things, but can't actually 'do' those right things, or not anymore anyway.

I've never seen a team that apparently has such a leadership void that they need to overpay half of their roster because they're 'leaders'.
I think you need a nice, stiff drink or 2 buddy.

I get the frustration, but it's March. Wait until free agency starts and the Jones clan are on Jerry's battleship while other teams are signing up good players.

I may join you on a drink then. Or 2. Or 3.........
 

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You know its the offseason when you get threads on the interpersonal dymanics of Dallas players that posters have never met, much less seen interact in the locker room.

Seeing the lack of production on the field is more than enough, as well as not making a difference when the games matter.

The rest is nothing but talk.

The fact that this team is currently paying out over $20 million in cap space to guys like Sean Lee, Allen Hurns, Tyrone Crawford, and now Jason Witten is a bad joke.

And it's why they win nothing while the Patriots win every year. People want to 'imitate the Patriots'? Start there. Start with accountability for performance rather than running a Country Club.
 

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We all want a wife with the bank account that Brady's wife has, but that isn't really how things work.

Too bad that has nothing to do with anything.

And I just love that you selectively pick and chose one line of the entire post, while trying to ignore everything else you couldn't refute.

Try again, do better.
 

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And I just love that you selectively pick and chose one line of the entire post, while trying to ignore everything else you couldn't refute.

MMmmmmm, your entire post - that you felt deserved a new thread - implies you know the personal dynamics and leadership traits of 53 Cowboy players and numerous coaches.

I just assumed you had never met them, feel free to prove me wrong.
 

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MMmmmmm, your entire post - that you felt deserved a new thread - implies you know the personal dynamics and leadership traits of 53 Cowboy players and numerous coaches.

I just assumed you had never met them, feel free to prove me wrong.

It implies no such thing. It points out that none of it matters whatsoever. None of it translates to wins on the field, so none of it matters at all.

But you and the other SuperFans will try to defend every stupid move this team decides to make like it's your job.

None of the 'leadership' that this team is paying for means a damn thing. Sean Lee, Crawford, Hurns, and now Witten are no longer difference makers, if they ever were. And none of that 'leadership' makes up for the fact that they can't play and aren't worth what they're being paid.

I know the truth hurts. And that's why you're obviously triggered.
 

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Raining used Johnny Walker Blue, bought and paid for by the suckers!
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It’s gotten so bad that this is lterally my reaction every time JJ or SJ open their mouths:

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Seeing the lack of production on the field is more than enough, as well as not making a difference when the games matter.

The rest is nothing but talk.

The fact that this team is currently paying out over $20 million in cap space to guys like Sean Lee, Allen Hurns, Tyrone Crawford, and now Jason Witten is a bad joke.

And it's why they win nothing while the Patriots win every year. People want to 'imitate the Patriots'? Start there. Start with accountability for performance rather than running a Country Club.
Take the 4 worst contracts on every team and tell me how that's different? I'll just stay in the conference.

NYG - Eli ($23), Vernon ($19.5), Jenkins ($14.75), Martin (5.9) = 63
PHI - Peters (13), Agholor (9), Bradham (9), Long (5.5) = 36.5
WAS - Norman (14.5), Reed (9.5), Brown (9), McCoy (3.5) = 36.5

NO - Jordan (14), Davis (8.5), Klein (6), Morstead (4) = 32.5
LAR - Brockers (11), Talib (8), Robey-Coleman (6), Hekker (4) = 29
SEA - Brown (11), Mingo (6), Mcdougald (5), Dickson (4) = 26

Every team carries around dead weight, or players who aren't worth their contracts, and it adds up to well over $20m. You want to release these guys to make space for the guys who are the bad contracts for other teams. It's ridiculous logic. It only makes sense if Dallas was tight to the cap, but they're not even close.
 

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I know the truth hurts. And that's why you're obviously triggered.

Being agnostic isn't being triggered. Saying posters here - including you - have no idea what the lockerroom dynamics are isn't being a "Superfan", its common sense since you have never met any of the people involved and have no real basis to form a judgement.

The team went 7 - 1 after a poor start, most people would say it would take leadership to recover like that.

I think most people would also say that seeing that and trashing the team for not winning the Super Bowl is that triggered stuff.
 
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