Only in Dallas do they need so many leaders

[cowboyblue22]

The Patriots only need one player as team leader because everyone knows who is in charge when it comes to management - the head coach.

Dallas' friends & family plan enables players to undermine the coaching staff when desired, so there's a need for multiple players to help steer the ship.

One organization is winning while the other talks about winning.

THIS GREAT POST

 

[Stash]

Being agnostic isn't being triggered. Saying posters here - including you - have no idea what the lockerroom dynamics are isn't being a "Superfan", its common sense since you have never met any of the people involved and have no real basis to form a judgement.

I don’t need to know. I can see the lack of results. And so can you if you’re honest.

The team went 7 - 1 after a poor start, most people would say it would take leadership to recover like that.

Even more would say the Lee, Hurns, Crawford and Witten’s on-field contributions had NOTHING to do with it. Again, being honest.

I think most people would also say that seeing that and trashing the team for not winning the Super Bowl is that triggered stuff.

You don’t get to speak for ‘most’. If you didn’t like the truth you had the option to pass the thread. But it obviously triggered you.

 

[Corso]

I'm triggered.

 

[Stash]

Take the 4 worst contracts on every team and tell me how that's different? I'll just stay in the conference.

NYG - Eli ($23), Vernon ($19.5), Jenkins ($14.75), Martin (5.9) = 63
PHI - Peters (13), Agholor (9), Bradham (9), Long (5.5) = 36.5
WAS - Norman (14.5), Reed (9.5), Brown (9), McCoy (3.5) = 36.5

NO - Jordan (14), Davis (8.5), Klein (6), Morstead (4) = 32.5
LAR - Brockers (11), Talib (8), Robey-Coleman (6), Hekker (4) = 29
SEA - Brown (11), Mingo (6), Mcdougald (5), Dickson (4) = 26

Every team carries around dead weight, or players who aren't worth their contracts, and it adds up to well over $20m. You want to release these guys to make space for the guys who are the bad contracts for other teams. It's ridiculous logic. It only makes sense if Dallas was tight to the cap, but they're not even close.

Starters vs backups?

Are you insane?

 

[Future]

Starters vs backups?

Are you insane?

A bunch of those guys are "backups." You also included Crawford, who is a starter, so it doesn't matter if these guys are backups or not. Your point was that the guys on the Cowboys underachieve, relative to their contracts, on the field. That is true for every player I listed above.

 

[glimmerman]

Hasn’t really been a stand out leader in a while now.

 

[Cannibal_Cowboy]

Yep... it’s been raining for 23+ years now lol

Here's something to take note of:

Dallas Cowboys become a franchise - 1960. First Championship appearance - 1970. A span of 10 years.

Last championship appearance under Landry - 1978. Jimmy Johnson wins his first Championship - 1992. A span of 14 years.

Last championship - 1995. Present Day - 2019. A span of 24 years....and counting.

So in the history of the Dallas Cowboys we've had gaps of 10 and 14 years until a championship game. Then we have the monstrosity that is the present state of the franchise. We've almost doubled any drought ever seen before.

 

[Stash]

A bunch of those guys are "backups." You also included Crawford, who is a starter, so it doesn't matter if these guys are backups or not.

********. You WISH it “didn’t matter”, because you’ve got no case. And no valid point.

Your point was that the guys on the Cowboys underachieve, relative to their contracts, on the field. That is true for every player I listed above.

More falsehoods from a desperate person fumbling to have a point. Never said never the point.

Another swing and a miss.

 

[Future]

Bull****. You WISH it “didn’t matter”, because you’ve got no case. And no valid point.



More falsehoods from a desperate person fumbling to have a point. Never said never the point.

Another swing and a miss.

Is Tyrone Crawford a starter? You literally included him and then made some argument about backups.

Yes, it is exactly what you said, b/c you included Crawford. For all we know, Witten is going to be the starter too.

You can bloviate all you want, but you're whining about something that most every team in the NFL - and really professional sports - does.

 

[GenoT]

Who needs leadership?

We have Jerry’s 40yo brain, Stephen’s secret-sauce and Garrett’s clap-along process.

Oh yeah...and Witten’s comeback!

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Take the 4 worst contracts on every team and tell me how that's different? I'll just stay in the conference.

NYG - Eli ($23), Vernon ($19.5), Jenkins ($14.75), Martin (5.9) = 63
PHI - Peters (13), Agholor (9), Bradham (9), Long (5.5) = 36.5
WAS - Norman (14.5), Reed (9.5), Brown (9), McCoy (3.5) = 36.5

NO - Jordan (14), Davis (8.5), Klein (6), Morstead (4) = 32.5
LAR - Brockers (11), Talib (8), Robey-Coleman (6), Hekker (4) = 29
SEA - Brown (11), Mingo (6), Mcdougald (5), Dickson (4) = 26

Every team carries around dead weight, or players who aren't worth their contracts, and it adds up to well over $20m. You want to release these guys to make space for the guys who are the bad contracts for other teams. It's ridiculous logic. It only makes sense if Dallas was tight to the cap, but they're not even close.

You wouldn’t pay Chris Long 5.5? That guy is a strip sack machine. And Bradham is the best linebacker we’ve had in 15 years! Did you just pick these names out of a hat?

 

[Stash]

Is Tyrone Crawford a starter? You literally included him and then made some argument about backups.

No. He isn’t. Not anywhere else. Not even truly for this team. ‘Starting’ defensive ends aren’t taken off the field on passing downs. But waste more time defending that too.

Yes, it is exactly what you said, b/c you included Crawford.

Because he’s not a real starter. You know it I know it. Now go defend 5 sacks from YOUR STARTER.

For all we know, Witten is going to be the starter too.

Even worse.

You can bloviate all you want, but you're whining about something that most every team in the NFL - and really professional sports - does.

Nobody does this. That is a LIE. You ‘bloviate’ trying to defend your team’s stupidity. NO SELL.

 

[Sydla]

Carrying Sean Lee at over $10MM just because he's a good leader is idiotic and highlights the flaws this front office has in roster building. Their priorities are often screwed up.

I have no issues with Lee on this team. But for the role they want him to play - be a back up LB and be a leader, his cap hit should be like $4MM, not over $10MM.

 

[plymkr]

Yep... it’s been raining for 23+ years now lol

You mean the fans have been getting peed on for 23+ years.

 

[Future]

No. He isn’t. Not anywhere else. Not even truly for this team. ‘Starting’ defensive ends aren’t taken off the field on passing downs. But waste more time defending that too.

Because he’s not a real starter. You know it I know it. Now go defend 5 sacks from YOUR STARTER.

Even worse.

Nobody does this. That is a LIE. You ‘bloviate’ trying to defend your team’s stupidity. NO SELL.

He is not taken off the field ever, lol. The only DL who played more snaps was Lawrence. https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/snapcounts

Defend Brockers at $11m then.

Didn't say Witten would be a good starter, but that's the criteria you're using.

I just gave you a bunch of teams that do it.

 

[Stash]

Carrying Sean Lee at over $10MM just because he's a good leader is idiotic and highlights the flaws this front office has in roster building. Their priorities are often screwed up.

I have no issues with Lee on this team. But for the role they want him to play - be a back up LB and be a leader, his cap hit should be like $4MM, not over $10MM.

This guy gets it.

 

[Future]

You wouldn’t pay Chris Long 5.5? That guy is a strip sack machine. And Bradham is the best linebacker we’ve had in 15 years! Did you just pick these names out of a hat?

I would, but by Stash's logic he's not worth it b/c he's not a starter. Bradham's alright, but not worth his contract.

It's arbitrary, they're both fine players and fine at their cap hit.

 

[Stash]

He is not taken off the field ever, lol. The only DL who played more snaps was Lawrence. https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/snapcounts

Where did Randy Gregory play?

Defend Brockers at $11m then.

Didn't say Witten would be a good starter, but that's the criteria you're using.

It’s more of the PROBLEM. That continues to elude you.

I just gave you a bunch of teams that do it.

Where? Your terrible starters vs backups crap? That was an embarrassment.

 

[Stash]

You wouldn’t pay Chris Long 5.5? That guy is a strip sack machine. And Bradham is the best linebacker we’ve had in 15 years! Did you just pick these names out of a hat?

Apparently so.

Comparing starters to backups along the way.

It’s sad.

 

[CF74]

**Slams Door***

**Breaks Stuff**