Only in Dallas do they need so many leaders

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I would, but by Stash's logic he's not worth it b/c he's not a starter. Bradham's alright, but not worth his contract.

It's arbitrary, they're both fine players and fine at their cap hit.

And neither Lee nor Crawford nor Hurns are producing like that and are therefore NOT “fine at their cap hit”. Congratulations for inadvertently stumbling on the ACTUAL POINT.
 

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And neither Lee nor Crawford nor Hurns are producing like that and are therefore NOT “fine at their cap hit”. Congratulations for inadvertently stumbling on the ACTUAL POINT.
You said the point was starters vs. backups. Which one is it?

I have said all along that the point is that the issue is overpaying for lack of production, not whether or not a player is a starter lmao. Sammy Watkins is a bad cap hit just as Sean Lee is a bad cap hit. That has been my point since the beginning.
 

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If you didn’t like the truth you had the option to pass the thread. But it obviously triggered you.

"Its the truth and you are triggered!!!"

- Guy who has written two pages about the personalities of people he has never met
 

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You said the point was starters vs. backups. Which one is it?

This is also probably too deep for you to think, but it’s BOTH.

I have said all along that the point is that the issue is overpaying for lack of production, not whether or not a player is a starter lmao.

Wow! Is that a LIE! You trying to backpedal now?

Sammy Watkins is a bad cap hit just as Sean Lee is a bad cap hit. That has been my point since the beginning.

More wrong. Watkins is a deal they CAN’T GET OUT OF Lee is one that you can. More falsehoods from a fountain of them.

And if you “didn’t know”, don’t say.
 

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"Its the truth and you are triggered!!!"

- Guy who has written two pages about the personalities of people he has never met

A guy who doesn’t give two craps about their “personalities “. I’ll let you and your “feels” worry about that.

But you continue being triggered posting in a thread you continue to protest has no merit.

All while ignorant of your own hypocrisy in being here.
 

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It’s an entitled culture where accountability does not exist for the management... why would it exist for the rest of the team?

Excuses are offered up at every occasion. Our owner literally went on record and blamed the field conditions in LA and the team’s cleats for the playoff L.

When you have that kind of denial happening at the top of the organization... bad losses are excused as mediocrity, mediocrity is affirmed as good, and anything good is lauded as elite/excellent.

They are content to chase excellence and excuse their failure to attain it by affirming their efforts in the pursuit. Therefore— nothing ever really changes.

And this is could be why players "love" Garrett so much. Why wouldn't they, if he doesn't / is not allowed to impose any discipline whatsoever? Did everyone love Jimmy Johnson? Hell no, but they sure as hell respected him and feared him, and played their guts out for him. There were no excuses back then.
 

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And this is why the players "love" Garrett so much. Why wouldn't they, when he doesn't / is not allowed to impose any discipline whatsoever? Did everyone love Jimmy Johnson? Hell no, but they sure as hell respected him and feared him, and played their guts out for him. There were no excuses back then.

And make no mistake they don’t all love Bill Belichick either. They just win.

He is today’s Jimmy Johnson.

Better to be feared than to be loved.
 

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It implies no such thing. It points out that none of it matters whatsoever. None of it translates to wins on the field, so none of it matters at all.

But you and the other SuperFans will try to defend every stupid move this team decides to make like it's your job.

None of the 'leadership' that this team is paying for means a damn thing. Sean Lee, Crawford, Hurns, and now Witten are no longer difference makers, if they ever were. And none of that 'leadership' makes up for the fact that they can't play and aren't worth what they're being paid.

I know the truth hurts. And that's why you're obviously triggered.

Why is every opinion that’s different from yours always labeled “triggered”? Why are folks who refuse to be perpetually miserable about a game they have no control over, or true insight about, always characterized as “suckers”?

No true fan is happy with the mistakes and failures. No one is comfy with mediocrity. But many don’t see the need for endless threads of useless handwringing. Wanting to move on and hope for the future is NOT embracing mediocrity.
 

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More wrong. Watkins is a deal they CAN’T GET OUT OF Lee is one that you can. More falsehoods from a fountain of them.

And if you “didn’t know”, don’t say.
So the issue isn't production at their cap hit, it's that it's a cap hit the team can't get out of? Mmk
 

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And this is could be why players "love" Garrett so much. Why wouldn't they, if he doesn't / is not allowed to impose any discipline whatsoever? Did everyone love Jimmy Johnson? Hell no, but they sure as hell respected him and feared him, and played their guts out for him. There were no excuses back then.
I don't really think Cowboys players love JG. I think a handful might, but I don't think it's the majority. JG picks his favorites.
 

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And yet every year, without question, people complain about the LACK of leadership.

I guess it just depends on your point of view of what you want to complain about and it is not the first time this same type of complain has been made.

Also for every super fan that justifies everything done there about ten negative nancies that complain about everything done.
 

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Leadership is one of the most misused words regarding pro sports. Participants are paid to do a job just like everybody else that works for a living and reports to a supervisor.

In your company, do you need a leader, other than the head of the department to achieve goals? If goals are not met, do they blame that on a lack of leadership?

Teams do not need leaders and most don't have them, just what some perceive to be leaders because they do some stupid dance like Lewis or a sillyass speech like Brees. Do the players really need that? That's all for show, it's all BS.

Take leadership out of the equation and replace that with accountability. That's what separates the real teams from the pretenders. Belichick isn't the leader of that team and neither is Brady, he is discharging his duties and doing his job as the QB. Belichick is the one that holds everyone accountable and will bench a DB for the playoffs or kick the QB's business buddy out of the locker room because there is one boss and everyone knows who he is. And everyone knows what is expected, "do your job" and that is defined by Belichick.

Know how McVay held himself accountable? He called it like it was, he got outcoached and there's not a player on his team that will hold that against him. And he will be able to hold them accountable because of the standard of accountability he has set.

The Cowboys do not have any accountability because the owner does not hold the GM accountable who doesn't hold the HC accountable who is not allowed to hold the players accountable. Garrett doesn't even hold himself accountable and won't admit mistakes. It is a team with a set up for excusing not achieving goals.

We throw around the word "leader" for Michael Irvin but was he not the one that held players accountable during the games? We all know Jimmy was the head of accountability but that was after games. Irvin was a leader through example because of how he practiced but when he knew a player wasn't "doing his job", he was in his face and asking him for his best. Accountability isn't yelling at a player or threatening him, it is setting the standard for what is expected of him and not letting him off the hook when he fails to deliver.

The NFL isn't what it used to be with guys like Lombardi, Landry, Grant, Noll or Jimmy or Parcells. Big guaranteed money and the cap restraints ran Johnson and Parcells out of the game, their way would not work anymore. Players didn't fear them and fear was a big part of how those men coached back then, the fear of losing your job or being singled out in team meetings or the fear of disappointing your coach because those men all shared one belief, without accountability, we will fail.

However, there is one that still demands accountability and people wonder why he still just keeps winning. No player in the NFL has the fear of failure so ingrained in them as a NE Patriot and if they don't have it coming in, they acquire that fast or they're not there.
 

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How many "leaders" does a team need?

How many true "leaders" do the Super Bowl champs have? I count one - Tom Brady. The rest are replaceable parts who either get with the program or get lost.

How many guys does it take for a team to be successful? The Cowboys apparently need a whole lot, and all of that leadership somehow doesn't manage to keep the screwups from screwing up again and again and again, does it?

Only our Cowboys need to pay all of these players to be "team leaders". Players who don't actually contribute on the field when it truly matters, but cheerleaders who 'say' the right things, but can't actually 'do' those right things, or not anymore anyway.

I've never seen a team that apparently has such a leadership void that they need to overpay half of their roster because they're 'leaders'.
Utter nonsense that would only be viewed as gospel on a Dallas fan board
 

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Why is every opinion that’s different from yours always labeled “triggered”? Why are folks who refuse to be perpetually miserable about a game they have no control over, or true insight about, always characterized as “suckers”?

No true fan is happy with the mistakes and failures. No one is comfy with mediocrity. But many don’t see the need for endless threads of useless handwringing. Wanting to move on and hope for the future is NOT embracing mediocrity.
People have downplayed the lack of postseason success under Garrett while praising him for his regular season record. I would call that comfy with mediocrity.
 

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Why is every opinion that’s different from yours always labeled “triggered”?

The guy who can't bear to hear that this team is doing somerhingwrong is being referred to as "triggered". If you're going to try to paint with that broad brush, at least bother to do so accurately.

Why are folks who refuse to be perpetually miserable about a game they have no control over, or true insight about, always characterized as “suckers”?

"Suckers" are those who buy in to everything without question. And then expect everyone else to do the same. You decide if you want to be that "sucker" or not, but don't tell me that I shouldn't question questionable decisions.

No true fan is happy with the mistakes and failures. No one is comfy with mediocrity. But many don’t see the need for endless threads of useless handwringing.

Then feel free to express your own unhappiness in any way that you see fit. And if other people talking about it in their own way proves to be too much for you to handle, feel free to skip over those threads.

Wanting to move on and hope for the future is NOT embracing mediocrity.

Trying to pretend it's not happening sure is. You're free to cover your own eyes. The rest of us will keep ours wide open.
 

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People have downplayed the lack of postseason success under Garrett while praising him for his regular season record. I would call that comfy with mediocrity.

And those defending the moves that I first mentioned here are doing the same thing. But they're also the first people trying to prop up yet another disappointing season.
 

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So the issue isn't production at their cap hit, it's that it's a cap hit the team can't get out of? Mmk

Yes. Unfortunately for you and your perpetually failing case, it most certainly IS a factor.

Flop around more.
 

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Utter nonsense that would only be viewed as gospel on a Dallas fan board

Disprove it. Super Fan.

Tell all of us how a backup linebacker in Sean Lee is in any way, shape, or form worth $10 million this year?

Tell us how it's good business to bring ask Allen Hurns off of serious injury and 20 catches for the season, at $6.5 million?

Tell us how Tyrone Crawford is worth his $9 million?

The only "utter nonsense" comes from fans like you who can't bear to watch the stupid things their team does, and why their favorite team no longer wins anything.
 
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