Opinion: Next week's game is officially meaningless

[gdogg24]

No. 3 way tie breaker comes down to conference record. Our win over seattle would mean nothing. Whether it's GB or Detroit it does not matter. If it's a 3 way tie the seeds will be ranked in order of conference wins.

No look it's on the rules for wild-card

"When the first Wild-Card team has been identified, the procedure is repeated to name the second Wild-Card, i.e., eliminate all but the highest-ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. In situations where three or more teams from the same division are involved in the procedure, the original seeding of the teams remains the same for subsequent applications of the tie breaker if the top-ranked team in that division qualifies for a Wild-Card berth."

See so since there's a three way tie you go to conference to find the highest ranked team which if Us, Detroit, Seattle, tie would be Detroit. Then like the rules say you repeat the tie break procedures again for the remaining two teams which would be us and Seattle. At first at the top of the list is the head to head matchup!

 

[Carolina Cowboy]

Guys, I don't think this team rests when finish the fight is evidently the mantra we are living by. We play our guys, and if like today we're crushing them, then they sit. I can't stand resting guys anyways. There's something to cadence and repetition to keep sharp. Whatever is decided, I think this team, this year, will get it right.

 

[Nirvana]

Guys like Ro McClain, Free, Martin - sit. Others I would pull early. Take the opportunity to gear up for the playoffs. Still try to beat the Skins, but do it with some of the other guys who could use the playing time anyway (Wilber, Parnell, Bern, Weeden, Randle - heck I would promote Ryan Williams to the 53 and give him some snaps, too.)

 

[TrailBlazer]

No look it's on the rules for wild-card

"When the first Wild-Card team has been identified, the procedure is repeated to name the second Wild-Card, i.e., eliminate all but the highest-ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. In situations where three or more teams from the same division are involved in the procedure, the original seeding of the teams remains the same for subsequent applications of the tie breaker if the top-ranked team in that division qualifies for a Wild-Card berth."

See so since there's a three way tie you go to conference to find the highest ranked team which if Us, Detroit, Seattle, tie would be Detroit. Then like the rules say you repeat the tie break procedures again for the remaining two teams which would be us and Seattle. At first at the top of the list is the head to head matchup!

In a 3 way tie head to head is thrown out. Play with the playoff generators and you will see. Plus this isn't the wildcard.

 

[Ultra Warrior]

Dallas can move up- but in my opinion it's not worth risking Romo, Murray, etc.. Treat next week as the bye week.

If getting the #2 seed is still an option, I'd chance it. Within reason, of course.

 

[Chuck 54]

All games have meaning. If a guy is not close to 100%, he rests, but healthy starters should play.

 

[gdogg24]

In a 3 way tie head to head is thrown out. Play with the playoff generators and you will see. Plus this isn't the wildcard.

It doesn't matter the tie break procedures are the same. You're right in a three way tie you go to conference to find the highest ranked team then you repeat the procedure again and when you do that we beat Seattle and get the two seed. You have to repeat the process for the subsequent two teams after you find the highest ranked team via the initial tie-break procedure.

 

[TrailBlazer]

It doesn't matter the tie break procedures are the same. You're right in a three way tie you go to conference to find the highest ranked team then you repeat the procedure again and when you do that we beat Seattle and get the two seed. You have to repeat the process for the subsequent two teams after you find the highest ranked team via the initial tie-break procedure.

Exactly. Repeat the procedure. Seattle wins because of conference record. Head to head is thrown out.

 

[gdogg24]

Exactly. Repeat the procedure. Seattle wins because of conference record. Head to head is thrown out.

the procedure starts with head to head though you find the highest ranked team then start the checklist again to find the second seed

1. Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.
2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in conference games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss

 

[TrailBlazer]

It doesn't matter the tie break procedures are the same. You're right in a three way tie you go to conference to find the highest ranked team then you repeat the procedure again and when you do that we beat Seattle and get the two seed. You have to repeat the process for the subsequent two teams after you find the highest ranked team via the initial tie-break procedure.

I just looked it up. Head to head is only applicable if all 3 teams have played eachother

 

[TrailBlazer]

the procedure starts with head to head though you find the highest ranked team then start the checklist again to find the second seed

1. Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.
2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in conference games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss

See what's in parentheses after number 2 head to head. It only matters if we had beaten green bay as well. Or if seattle lost to green bay as well. Therefore that is thrown out and it comes down to conference record

 

[Fredd]

I can see them playing murray until he breaks Emmit's team yardage record...I hope that isn't the ONLY reason he plays, but I think they want him to have the record

 

[gdogg24]

See what's in parentheses after number 2 head to head. It only matters if we had beaten green bay as well. Therefore that is thrown out and it comes down to conference record

Yes! That's why we need Detroit to win! See you go through that list once to find the one seed after you do that and you find the one seed you go through the whole thing again to find the two seed! Which is when our win over Seattle kicks back in!

 

[TrailBlazer]

Yes! That's why we need Detroit to win! See you go through that list once to find the one seed after you do that and you find the one seed you go through the whole thing again to find the two seed! Which is when our win over Seattle kicks back in!

No. Seattle didn't play Detroit. Which makes head to head not applicable in a 3 way tie.

 

[TrailBlazer]

Yes! That's why we need Detroit to win! See you go through that list once to find the one seed after you do that and you find the one seed you go through the whole thing again to find the two seed! Which is when our win over Seattle kicks back in!

Head to head is thrown out bc dallas didn't beat GB/Det. Can't factor in head to head when we didn't play them. That is how the 3 way tie breaker worka

 

[gdogg24]

No. Seattle didn't play Detroit. Which makes head to head not applicable in a 3 way tie.

I know that but Detroit will have a better conference record than Seattle, you use conference record to break the three way tie then repeat the list from the top with the remaining two teams

 

[gdogg24]

Head to head is thrown out bc dallas didn't beat GB/Det. Can't factor in head to head when we didn't play them. That is how the 3 way tie breaker worka

That's why Detroit will be the one seed if they win but if Seattle and Green Bay win then Seattle gets the one seed after that there'd be a tie between us and Green Bay for the two seed and since there was no head to head you go to conference to break the tie again. But if Detroit wins we get the tie breaker over Seattle because head to head kicks back in

 

[TrailBlazer]

Yes! That's why we need Detroit to win! See you go through that list once to find the one seed after you do that and you find the one seed you go through the whole thing again to find the two seed! Which is when our win over Seattle kicks back in!

One team has to beat the other 2. Or one team has to lose to the other 2, for head to head to apply.

 

[TrailBlazer]

That's why Detroit will be the one seed if they win but if Seattle and Green Bay win then Seattle gets the one seed after that there'd be a tie between us and Green Bay for the two seed and since there was no head to head you go to conference to break the tie again. But if Detroit wins we get the tie breaker over Seattle because head to head kicks back in

I get what you're saying. That's just not how it works. The 2 teams with the best Conference record will get the bye in that scenario. They would be ranked in order of conference record. Head to head is not applicable

 

[gdogg24]

I get what you're saying. That's just not how it works. The 2 teams with the best Conference record will get the bye in that scenario. They would be ranked in order of conference record. Head to head is not applicable

No the team with the best conference record would get the highest seed then you repeat the whole list to find the two seed anyway we'll find out if Detroit wins. I'm telling you it's like I'm saying you can't break the three way tie with head to head so conference record determines the one seed. After that you repeat all the tie-breaker rules which now would include head to head in the event that Detroit and Seattle are both 12-4. If Green Bay were to win though, Seattle would get the one, then upon repeating the list again since there's no head to head between us and Green Bay you refer to conference record and they'd be ranked higher than us.