Opinions on Dak

[LatinMind]

I did not say Dak hasn't gotten it done in the playoffs. I stated my opinion on Dak irrelevant of team's record in the regular season or the playoffs.

To be clear, I'm not saying Dak is responsible for those losses. The team was, including Dak.

Youre saying that u under he cant lift the team to a win. IDK if you know but thats basically saying he's responsible

Good enough to be successful against the average teams in the regular season with enough support.

Not good enough to get the team over the hump in the post season.

You didnt say this?

 

[shabazz]

I like him, he's improved every season, he continues to improve and will only get better, he's a franchise QB.

The Buccaneers have a Franchise Quarterback too

 

[charron]

I stopped reading after you said he doesn't control situations on the field. All players have said he takes charge and gives them all confidence in so many ways.. I will trust them over your hatred. Also, I guess you didn't follow his college career, the guy is a winner and a supreme leader. It's okay we can disagree on it I don't care.

I don't follow anyones college game. Ever see what happens when a non stud player talks smack about the starting QB? Those guys don't last in any locker room. Know why guys like Rodgers and Brady don't get called out for bad attitudes? Cause they can ball out, so all you'll here is pom pom cheering about them. But Dak is likable regardless so players aren't going to say anything bad about the guy they like. And it's not bad to say Dak is average, atleast not untill he makes 35 a year then all his fans will be asking why the team sucks and why cant their QB carry them to a win.

 

[conner01]

We could do better. We could do much worse. I like Dak.

There are better QB’s but getting one of them is not so easy

 

[cmoney23]

I've gone back and forth on Dak over the years... but this season has shown me that he's the guy.

He continues to improve and work at his craft. That won't change and therefore he will continue to get better and better until his physical ability deteriorates with age.

 

[aikemirv]

This sites opinion of Dak won't change. If anyone hated him last offseason they'd still hate him now. Anyone who liked him will still like him this year.

I don't think so. He has definitely improved his core passing ability from last year. I think he has a long way to go on his performance in the pocket under duress - getting out of trouble and making a play like the one he did with Tavon Austin. Moving up in the pocket rather than out and back. I think he will get there. Probably won't ever be like the top guys but sufficient!

 

[aikemirv]

Not true at all. I didn't like him last season and really warmed up to him this season. Then I started not liking him again. If he would show some consistency, so would I

Quoted for truth!

 

[pansophy]

This sites opinion of Dak won't change. If anyone hated him last offseason they'd still hate him now. Anyone who liked him will still like him this year.

Not true. Although I thought maybe he was turning corner end of last season (seemed to see the field better and throw with better anticipation) I still had serious questions about him during the off-season.

The new throwing motion and accuracy that came with it with along with continued gains in other areas sold me in the first couple of games this season. I’ve stuck by that all season. He’s our guy.

I don’t think the criticism was wrong like many claim it was, IMO they were real concerns. Dak just did what few guys are able to do — eliminate weaknesses from his game that wash players out of the league.

 

[ak47kaehu]

The Buccaneers have a Franchise Quarterback too

Umm.....he did get better but then proceeded to get worse. Not the case with Dak.

 

[UncleRico]

To be honest we have been critical of his play versus good defenses only. He has handled the bottom 15 defenses very well so I didn't think was ever in debate. We weren't doubling down on those last 3-4 games but merely pointing out our critiques concerning those good defenses........and that why some of us were ecstatic that the run game was reintroduced putting less pressure on Dak and in my opinion making him more successful with his skill set. Its never been personal at all and never will be. My perfect scenario is to get a stout defense around him and keep the offensive line strong but that takes salary cap space.

This year has been an anomaly


Record vs top 15 defenses


2016- 7-2

2017- 3-2

2018- 6-4

2019- 1-6


Overall: 17-14

 

[Hadenough]

I think Dak has everything you would want in a QB except for the arm. He is tough he is a hard worker, he is leader. But his physical capabilities throwing the ball are inconsistent. He throws a lot of balls behind the WRs . And Dak can go cold for periods of time. Dak rarely throws a WR open. You never see Dak throw to a spot on the field before the Wr makes his break. I wouldnt place Dak in the top 10 but maybe around 12. I like Dak but you pay him Russell Wilson money and that would hurt the teams ability to keep or bring in good players like Jamal Adams.

 

[Proof]

I stopped reading after you said he doesn't control situations on the field. All players have said he takes charge and gives them all confidence in so many ways.. I will trust them over your hatred. Also, I guess you didn't follow his college career, the guy is a winner and a supreme leader. It's okay we can disagree on it I don't care.

yeah buddy is bugging with that nonsense. it's really strange to me how so many posters can have completely flat out wrong takes but expressed rationally. it's easy to brush off trolls, but when you got seemingly logical people taking illogical stances it throws me off

 

[Proof]

The Buccaneers have a Franchise Quarterback too

I mean, they kinda do. They'll undoubtedly try to work something out to keep Jameis. You're making a very poor surface level comparison though, because all you can relate between them is the gaudy yardage.

 

[BoysForLife]

you're gonna need to show your research there buddy. confirmation bias at it's finest

First of all, I don't "need" to show a damn thing research wise when stating an opinion. That's why it's an opinion forum.
And either way, from a stat perspective, obviously the league doesn't keep track of "near" interceptions.

He had two giftwrapped picks dropped in the Rams game alone. I notice it a lot throughout the course of the season.
Yes, I'm sure every QB gets away with one or two but he gets away with a lot of them. In my opinion, more than most.

Can I quantify that statement with a "low light" reel of almost picks?
No, I cannot. And I'm not going to take the time to try and put one together, if it were even possible. If you think Dak doesn't get off the hook on a lot of lucky non picks, then we'll have to agree to disagree. Arguing back and forth isn't going to change either one of our minds.

 

[HungryLion]

I think Dak is in the 8-10 range of starting QB’s.

that puts him in the good-very good category, but not elite.

That’s where I genuinely think he belongs. I have a hard time agreeing with anybody who thinks he is mediocre or worse.

I can at least see peoples argument when they say Dak is a good QB, but that they don’t want Dak extended because they believe “good QB’s” aren’t enough to win a Super Bowl once they are highly paid. It’s a fair concern to have.

However, I also think that it’s really hard to actually land a QB better than Dak. It’s like less than a 50% chance that a first round QB will end up being better than Dak.

So there is risk involved if the team decides to move away from him. There is also risk involved in giving him a high priced extension.

 

[Jarv]

I feel good about Dak on his rookie deal. I would resign Dak (actually our next coach should have a say in the matter) for 15-20 million/year.

I don't feel good about Dak at 35-40 million/year.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Not true. Although I thought maybe he was turning corner end of last season (seemed to see the field better and throw with better anticipation) I still had serious questions about him during the off-season.

The new throwing motion and accuracy that came with it with along with continued gains in other areas sold me in the first couple of games this season. I’ve stuck by that all season. He’s our guy.

I don’t think the criticism was wrong like many claim it was, IMO they were real concerns. Dak just did what few guys are able to do — eliminate weaknesses from his game that wash players out of the league.

You're in the minority. You clearly aren't one of the ones who "hated" him last year but one of the ones who took a wait and see approach. Guys like you I'm not referring to.

But while I Think he's a much better quarterback now in regards to mechanics......I felt he was a good quarterback last season once Amari came. His skill has been blown out of proportion on this site based on this fantasy football opinion that he needs to throw or 300 yards and 3 touchdowns every week.

 

[TheTruthIsOutThere]

Dak was helped out a lot by a bunch of tough catches Sunday, he was off the mark most of the time. That wont cut it most of the time against good to great teams. His accuracy was all over the place and against the Rams he got bailed out by our pass catchers making great plays on poorly thrown passes. I have defended Dak but I can't do that anymore, my opinion has changed.

 

[morat1959]

Average at best. All things perfect around him and he can do well. He’ll never carry a team.

 

[morat1959]

I see Dak as a guy who, when he isn't depended on to carry the team, can be sufficient to meet our needs at times.
I still question why so many throws seem to be off target in year 4 as a starter. I think you could make a good argument that his habit of being late and behind on reads/throws has gotten worse over the past 18 months rather than better. He also has an uncanny knack for getting off the hook on terrible decisions/throws. He has an awful lot of giftwrapped picks dropped throughout the course of the season. More than most QB's

That said--he played a reasonably good game Sunday. With Zeke bearing the load, Dak was not the focal point and it seems to be a winning formula for the team. (Dak not having to carry the team on his arm but being more of a supplemental piece instead)

Therein lies the issue for me. Dak is expecting to be paid like a guy who is capable of carrying the team on his arm. He's demanding to be paid like he's the best QB in the league. No doubt in my mind, Dak is not that guy. And if he's going to insist on being paid like he is, then we need to move on.

count me in the camp that says time to look elsewhere. For a variety of reasons (skillset, cost, etc).

Well said!