Orlovsky breaks down Dak's 15 interceptions from last season

[Rockport]

A guy doesn’t go from being bottom to middle in picks year to year to suddenly being an interception machine for no reason.

There’s obviously more at play to why that happened than “he sucks”. That would assume he was one caliber of player for 7 years then suddenly fell off a cliff at 28. Makes no logical sense.

The haters NEVER have a reply to this fact.

 

[diamonddelts]

I know, another Dak thread but this covers an issue we all have concerns....
I guess the question is whether or not it answers any concerns regarding the interceptions being an exception or a real problem.

Stopped reading at Dan Orlovsky.

 

[Proof]

The logic here (not ALL of Dak’s INTs were all on him (I'm assuming that's the logic, because I'm not gonna read any article or watch some video or read anyone's post on here)) leaves out 1 critical fact:

We judge the number of Dak’s INTs based on what other QBs do, and by what is considered good, average or bad INT numbers. If most QBs threw 30 or 40 INTs a season...then Dak’s 15 would be GREAT!

But Dak's numbers are horrible compared to the other QBs.

So then we get people breaking each INT down because they're defensive...and saying "well it's not really 15, cuz this one was Lamb's fault...and that one was the tight end's fault..and yada yada yada". And by the time they're done, they'll have Dak's TRUE INT numbers down to 9 or 8.


But they won't do the same breakdown of the other QB's INTs in the league.... which causes false comparisons. Because Mahomes or Burrow or Allen ALSO had guys run the wrong routes, or had perfect passes bounce off receiver's hands right to a defensive back, etc. So if you lop off a 3rd of Dak's INTs, then you could probably do the same with all the other QBs too if you evaluated them by the same guidelines....which means by comparison Dak's numbers will still be as bad as they were comparatively speaking, as they would have been had you just not gone INT by INT.

Heck....maybe Hurts actually had ZERO interceptions that were his fault. I wouldn't know...because I only see him when he plays The Boyz... but I'm sure some of the scumbag closet eagles fans in here would argue that point.

So let's just keep it simple: dak thre 15 IMTs last year in 11 despite missing a 3rd of the season (holy krap)

15 isn’t a lot. In general, comparatively, or contextually. 15 has only led the league times im history, and never less than that. it’s also an anomaly for Dak. Poring into it makes sense when it’s an anomaly

 

[Corso]

I see rainbows and unicorns only in this thread.

I wish I had your mushrooms right now.
We'd make MAGIC!

With the right music at the correct amount of high volume of course.

 

[817Gill]

It happens.

Look at Philly.

Wentz went from being the best player in the league in 2017... to utter garbage in a matter of a couple of years....and same age as dak.

Guys can drop off a cliff. Especially after significant injuries

No lol, he suffered a major injury and has been a locker room issue his whole career. The latter may be more significant than the injury.

That was not a random drop off. There were clear and reported reasons why. He also only had 2 good years, Dak has had double that if not more. Wentz was more of a one hit wonder than a steady guy who randomly dropped off a cliff.

 

[_sturt_]

I know, another Dak thread but this covers an issue we all have concerns....
I guess the question is whether or not it answers any concerns regarding the interceptions being an exception or a real problem.

In the specimen provided, here's the thing... Gallup has always been able to win 50-50 balls before... not so much last season. (And I'm attributing that to the conventional wisdom that it takes 2 years, not just 1, for a player to get fully back to himself following an ACL tear.) And worse, as the stat asserts, there were just more 50-50 balls, more tight coverage, that Dak was throwing into overall.

To me, it's that simple... they have had to get serious about giving Dak targets that will separate. Hopefully MG gets back to being MG... if he does, this could be a big bounce back year for QB1.

 

[buybuydandavis]

It's year 8.

He is what he is.

He peaked in 2016.

The offense as a whole peaked in 2016. Zeke and the oline were dominant, making it an easy row to hoe for Dak.

I think Dak was improving up through his injury. Certainly his deep ball got tons better after his rookies season. Also his happy feet. There was some up and down, but he became a better QB on a worse offense.

SB would have been a strong possibility if the later Dak could play on 2016. He used to miss a lot of deep throws. Just overthrow guys who were open. Post 2016, he has developed a nice deep ball. Should use it anytime we can get Pollard isolated on a LB.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PresDa01.htm

 

[buybuydandavis]

In the specimen provided, here's the thing... Gallup has always been able to win 50-50 balls before... not so much last season. (And I'm attributing that to the conventional wisdom that it takes 2 years, not just 1, for a player to get fully back to himself following an ACL tear.) And worse, as the stat asserts, there were just more 50-50 balls, more tight coverage, that Dak was throwing into overall.

To me, it's that simple... they have had to get serious about giving Dak targets that will separate. Hopefully MG gets back to being MG... if he does, this could be a big bounce back year for QB1.

Gets crowded in the secondary when you let your top WR go. Tougher row to hoe for everyone.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

I know, another Dak thread but this covers an issue we all have concerns....
I guess the question is whether or not it answers any concerns regarding the interceptions being an exception or a real problem.

None and I repeat NONE of the interceptions were on Dak!!!!
Those dang WR and TE (Throw in the HB also) can't get open enough and drop the dirt balls/air balls that our stud QB throws.
Get Dak some real talent around him and his greatness will sweat all over the gridiron!

 

[Floatyworm]

Did he consider the other 2 dozen balls that could have been picked?

 

[T-RO]

A guy doesn’t go from being bottom to middle in picks year to year to suddenly being an interception machine for no reason.

There’s obviously more at play to why that happened than “he sucks”. That would assume he was one caliber of player for 7 years then suddenly fell off a cliff at 28. Makes no logical sense.

100%.

Post of the week.

 

[T-RO]

Matthew Stafford 17 INT in 2021, Super Bowl champ.

 

[88sAndHeartbreak]

Did he consider the other 2 dozen balls that could have been picked?

You or the people that liked this post, please post ANYTHING that backs this up. If you dont like Dak for personal reasons, just say that.

Post like this are especially lazy since these things can be researched in seconds... but yall arent interested in facts.

 

[Sarge]

20 percent of his throws were tight window throws. Highest in the league…sheesh.

Correct, tight 5 yard window check down throws.

 

[phildadon86]

Or Gallup can win his route.

Not on one leg.

Another awesome move by the Cowboys FO.

 

[phildadon86]

15 isn’t a lot. In general, comparatively, or contextually. 15 has only led the league times im history, and never less than that. it’s also an anomaly for Dak. Poring into it makes sense when it’s an anomaly

It is when you miss 5 games lol. Don’t try and detract from the fact Dak needs to correct this.

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

No lol, he suffered a major injury and has been a locker room issue his whole career. The latter may be more significant than the injury.

That was not a random drop off. There were clear and reported reasons why. He also only had 2 good years, Dak has had double that if not more. Wentz was more of a one hit wonder than a steady guy who randomly dropped off a cliff.

Lamar Jackson !!!!

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

15 isn’t a lot. In general, comparatively, or contextually. 15 has only led the league times im history, and never less than that. it’s also an anomaly for Dak. Poring into it makes sense when it’s an anomaly

"Only led the league times in history"?

 

[CowboysLakerBamaFan]

Wentz was garbage every year but 2017. People need to stop using there one year as his ceiling….

That's literally what "ceiling" means.

The best a player is capable of.

 

[Whirlwin]

Put the ball route, supposed to be, and hope your receivers make a play. Eli Manning at the end of his career and the same issue. I never thought he was a great quarterback, but he put the ball red needed to be everybody gave Prescott a hard time because he would hold onto the football. They told him just release it and then he did and what happens. I NT‘s. There’s plenty of fault to go around and go back to what the man does. Best Methodical dink dunk.