Other Than TO, This Is A Likable Team

I wouldn't say all of our stars have their priorities stright with this recent news of missing some OTA's and all the whining and complaining about Bill that has been going on. Seems almost like they're trying to make excuses.
 
JoeCorrado;1516075 said:
Compared to Irvin- Terrel Owens is as squeaky clean, law abiding citizen as you could ever ask for. Show me ONE time the man has violated the law? He hasn't, but I suppose that is lost in the translation some how??

That big mouth of Terrell's? Seems to me that we could use a few big mouths on the defensive side of the ball too. It is called confidence, arrogance or simply in your face. You pick the adjective, we need some of it- whatever the name.

In the locker room? Is he a cancer?? If Charles Haley was a cancer then so is Owens. Fact is that they each came to Dallas from a bitter rival and each had endured questionable treatment from their former teams... each came with a chip on their shoulder... but the chip was reserved for others and NOT for their team mates.

What EXACTLY must we in society tolerate for the sake of a great athlete, that physical prowess? Must we suffer spousal abuse? Womanizing? Drugs? Alcohol? Gunfire in the night? Felony assault on the playing field? Dog fighting?? All of these are true enough and none of them have ever been mentioned in the same breath as Terrell Owens.

How about a guy who wants a new contract? Does that make him evil? Like Briggs? Like Emmit Smith perhaps? Terrell didn't hold out for a new contract. Instead he went out and was posting a career year by way of demonstrating his displeasure. The EAGLES and Donnie McNabb's insecurities were the ones who turned it into a fiasco.

I became a fan of Owens despite myself (yes, it was the star thing that stuck in my craw) when the man came back from a supposedly season ending injury to return and play his heart out for his team in the Super Bowl. Had the Eagles won the game, he was a shoo in for MVP that day, and any football fan worth his salt will recognize it and admit it.

I am doubly happy to have Owens as a Cowboy. A man with his honesty (honest to a fault if you ask me) and that kind of toughness, that kind of love for the game, that kind of spirit... well, every team could use one, or two if they are lucky. What was it that Tony Romo said of Terrell Owens in the weeks following the Seattle loss? 'Nobody was more supportive of me, a better friend to me after that happened, than Terrell Owens.'

I suppose there are those here who believe that Owens is some sort of a monster, to them I say; learn a little more for yourself and listen a little less to what others would have you believe. And please, don't take my word for it- do a little research for yourself. Once you do that much, once you learn a little more about the man, then Terrell Owens will have won another fan.

Deservedly so, I might add.

I must agree with you a 150% on this topic. I too had to search and find the good in T.O. But in all honesty what was there to research. It's all up front like you said, no criminal activities, dedication, skills and whether some believe it, a team player. I too like the fact that he strong in his convictions and his opinions. To me like I said on another thread, all that makes for a good leader. So I am with you, what makes him a cancer?

And as for the topic of this thread, if and when Dallas wins the SB in near future (like this upcoming season......yes, I'm a HOMER:laugh2: ), T.O. will play a very significant role in that success. You can take that to the bank. So like Ric Flair said " You can like it or not, learn to love because he's the best thing going. Or something like that. LOL:D
 
Alexander;1516510 said:
Romantics believe that our great teams of the 1960s/1970s were all paragons of virtue and we had 50 plus squeaky clean Christians (Staubach) and salts of the earth (Lilly) playing for a similar minded head coach.

Turns out we had our own share of thugs (Thomas Henderson), partiers (Meredith) and arrogant jerks (Duane Thomas). For the most part, that was a different era and teams took great lengths to keep that sort of behavior out of a public forum.

Revisionist history is a wonderful thing. It is amazing what being separated from reality by years of history will do.

Read a little bit about the old Cowboys. Read Walt Garrison. Thomas Henderson. Pete Gent. Then try to sell this type of sentimental amphigory.

Thanks for the response Alexander.
 
nathanlt;1516373 said:
Winning is not the only thing. Cheats and liars win. Jerks win. Despicable people win in the short term. Character is more important than winning.

That's what all the loveable losers say.
 
nathanlt;1516373 said:
Winning is not the only thing. Cheats and liars win. Jerks win. Despicable people win in the short term. Character is more important than winning.


If you believe that, you are in the wrong business! Football should not be a sport for you!

If the internet was available during the 60's, 70's...you would hate every NFL team, baseball team, hell...you would hate your neighbor!

Go watch tennis or something! :rolleyes: Nevermind, John McEnroe would have pissed you off too!
 
Haley was about the team much more than Owens. Owens hangs his teamates publicly out to dry and never accepts responsibility when he drops a pass. He creates dissension and controversy everywhere he goes and personally I think he has legitimate mental problems.
 
what a crap thread.T.O.is ruler of all.ingest it.
 
THUMPER;1516278 said:
Just the response I would expect from someone of your ilk.
You are welcome:confused:
THUMPER;1516278 said:
Some people were looking at him as our "savior" who was going to lead us back the SB. yeah, well that didn't happen as Mr. "I have a boo boo on my finger and can't hang onto the ball" led the league YET AGAIN in dropped passes. I have never heard from any of his "fans" what his excuse was all those other seasons when he led the league in dropped passes. Evidently, they don't care because he wasn't a Cowboy then.
TO was as productive as the come, he brought everything I had hoped for and more. The biggest reasons Dallas didn't do anything last year was the defense, poor coaching, poor game day strategy, Bill Parcells, Mike Zimmer.

TO had his drops the one in the Skins game that would have been a TD sticks out the most in my mind. He was hardly what was wrong with this team last year.
THUMPER;1516278 said:
Owens has yet to EVER lead a team anywhere. The one team he was on that actually went to the SB did it while he was out!
Without TO in that SB the Eagles get shelled...

THUMPER;1516278 said:
Terrell Owens was brought to Dallas to make big plays, to turn short passes into long TDs. Unfortunately, he only took one (yes ONE) short pass and broke it into a long TD last season. Keyshawn did better than that when he was here and that wasn't what he was supposed to be good at. Most of the short passes Owens caught he was stopped immediately. I thought he was supposed to be good at breaking tackles.

I don't like Terrell Owens because he is an individual playing a TEAM sport, period. I don't another reason than that. I don't like his brashness, his arrogance, his whining when he doesn't get every pass thrown his way, his constant self-aggrandizing and drawing attention to himself rather than to the team. He would fit much better in boxing or the UFC or better yet the WWE.
He made plays he had more tds than any other rec. Don't like him fine, but he is one hell of a football player, and one hell of a wr.

THUMPER;1516278 said:
Owens represents everything I dislike about athletes today. His only redeeming quality is that he isn't a criminal. Wow, that's great, good for him.

So if anyone has a problem with my not liking Owens or wanting him on my team, that's just tough, get over it because nothing anyone says is ever going to change my opinion of him.

Damn kids. :bang2:
You don't have to like him personally, I am sure he doesn't care if you do or not. But to deny what he brings to this team is just idiotic... To say you would rather the team lose than to have him is just ********. You are a fan of the Cowboys right, well the Cowboys are in the business of winning football games. TO helps us win games.

I love me some TO
 
nathanlt;1516586 said:
It doesn't make sense to you... fine. Stop calling us crybabies for wanting knuckleheads off the team. It makes perfect sense to a few Cowboys fanatics.

Well, I guess if I allowed what happens in a game to seep into reallife and affect my marriage I would be a "fanatic" like you then.

Thank goodness I am not.
 
THUMPER;1516278 said:
Just the response I would expect from someone of your ilk.

Some people were looking at him as our "savior" who was going to lead us back the SB. yeah, well that didn't happen as Mr. "I have a boo boo on my finger and can't hang onto the ball" led the league YET AGAIN in dropped passes. I have never heard from any of his "fans" what his excuse was all those other seasons when he led the league in dropped passes. Evidently, they don't care because he wasn't a Cowboy then.

Owens has yet to EVER lead a team anywhere. The one team he was on that actually went to the SB did it while he was out!

Terrell Owens was brought to Dallas to make big plays, to turn short passes into long TDs. Unfortunately, he only took one (yes ONE) short pass and broke it into a long TD last season. Keyshawn did better than that when he was here and that wasn't what he was supposed to be good at. Most of the short passes Owens caught he was stopped immediately. I thought he was supposed to be good at breaking tackles.

I don't like Terrell Owens because he is an individual playing a TEAM sport, period. I don't another reason than that. I don't like his brashness, his arrogance, his whining when he doesn't get every pass thrown his way, his constant self-aggrandizing and drawing attention to himself rather than to the team. He would fit much better in boxing or the UFC or better yet the WWE.

Owens represents everything I dislike about athletes today. His only redeeming quality is that he isn't a criminal. Wow, that's great, good for him.

So if anyone has a problem with my not liking Owens or wanting him on my team, that's just tough, get over it because nothing anyone says is ever going to change my opinion of him.

Damn kids. :bang2:

You my friend really need to lighten up. There is far more things wrong with this world than Mr. Owens. You act like he stole the family pet.

Have your opinion about that man. Nobody is saying otherwise.

He is 1 guy. One man. Just one.

Amazing people get so bent up over this stuff. I love football and the Cowboys as much as anyone but I damn sure don't want my team to lose despite the man.

Seriously. Get a drink.
 
Forget about TO's touchdowns, his 1st downs or any of his catches.... the guy was helping with NON-TO plays last year.... he was running with Julius as Julius scored his TD.... he protected him to ensure the TD would go in.... THAT was enough for me....

Wait til he signs ANOTHER 3 year deal w/ the Cowboys.... some on here will have a fit :lmao:



AnyGivenSunday;1516738 said:
I think the jury is still out on this....

While he didnt have the BIG impact that we thought he would... there is no question that he helped win games... directly and indirectly... for example... his 2 TD's in first half of Atlanta game turned out to be the difference
 
Alexander;1516742 said:
Well, I guess if I allowed what happens in a game to seep into reallife and affect my marriage I would be a "fanatic" like you then.

Thank goodness I am not.

Love thyself much?


I don't mean to be rude, either, but....
 
Dallas;1516748 said:
You my friend really need to lighten up. There is far more things wrong with this world than Mr. Owens. You act like he stole the family pet.

Have your opinion about that man. Nobody is saying otherwise.

You should probably read the whole thread before you say that because I've been called all kinds of names for not liking the sainted Terrell Owens; stupid, idiot, crybaby, etc.

It is amazing how only certain opinions are acceptable among some here, if you don't share the "majority" opinion then you are an idiot.

The funniest thing is that these same people were the first in line to bash Owens when he was with the 49ERs and Eagles. He was a cancer then but he can do no wrong now that he's in Dallas and I am a traitor for not wanting him on the team. The man-love for this guy who everyone here hated 2 years ago is mind-boggling.

I am not devastated by Owens being part of the team but I wish he wasn't. I still watch every game, root like crazy, wear my Cowboys stuff, etc. Life goes on as usual.
 
THUMPER;1516772 said:
The funniest thing is that these same people were the first in line to bash Owens when he was with the 49ERs and Eagles. He was a cancer then but he can do no wrong now that he's in Dallas...
:fact:
 
THUMPER;1516772 said:
You should probably read the whole thread before you say that because I've been called all kinds of names for not liking the sainted Terrell Owens; stupid, idiot, crybaby, etc.

You deserve every bit of the chastizing for comments like "I would rather lose without Owens than win with him".

You can hate him all you want. Nobody is demanding you and others like you to start liking him now or else.

But wishing a loss simply because the team is associated with him is pure and unadulterated foolishness.

Comments like that crossed the line and yet you are shocked that you are ridiculed.
 
THUMPER;1516033 said:
I completely agree with the article. I would rather lose without Owens than win with him, but I guess that's just me.


Your posts confuse me?


THUMPER;1516772 said:
I am not devastated by Owens being part of the team but I wish he wasn't. I still watch every game, root like crazy, wear my Cowboys stuff, etc. Life goes on as usual.



You would rather lose without Owens but root like crazy for this team? Root for them to lose?
 
Alexander;1516775 said:
You deserve every bit of the chastizing for comments like "I would rather lose without Owens than win with him".

You can hate him all you want. Nobody is demanding you and others like you to start liking him now or else.

But wishing a loss simply because the team is associated with him is pure and unadulterated foolishness.

Comments like that crossed the line and yet you are shocked that you are ridiculed.

Are you really that dense? I never want this team to lose, not ever! My point was that I would rather take my chances with someone else, and if we lose then we lose, than to win with a player like Owens.

I do not believe that he is the difference maker that some of you think he is. We won very few games because of him last year but we did lose a couple because of his drops.

Sheesh, some people :banghead:
 
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