Bob Sacamano
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nathanlt;1516586 said:Owens should have paid a much heavier price than he did for standing on the star.
uh, off w/ his head?
nathanlt;1516586 said:Owens should have paid a much heavier price than he did for standing on the star.
JoeCorrado;1516075 said:Compared to Irvin- Terrel Owens is as squeaky clean, law abiding citizen as you could ever ask for. Show me ONE time the man has violated the law? He hasn't, but I suppose that is lost in the translation some how??
That big mouth of Terrell's? Seems to me that we could use a few big mouths on the defensive side of the ball too. It is called confidence, arrogance or simply in your face. You pick the adjective, we need some of it- whatever the name.
In the locker room? Is he a cancer?? If Charles Haley was a cancer then so is Owens. Fact is that they each came to Dallas from a bitter rival and each had endured questionable treatment from their former teams... each came with a chip on their shoulder... but the chip was reserved for others and NOT for their team mates.
What EXACTLY must we in society tolerate for the sake of a great athlete, that physical prowess? Must we suffer spousal abuse? Womanizing? Drugs? Alcohol? Gunfire in the night? Felony assault on the playing field? Dog fighting?? All of these are true enough and none of them have ever been mentioned in the same breath as Terrell Owens.
How about a guy who wants a new contract? Does that make him evil? Like Briggs? Like Emmit Smith perhaps? Terrell didn't hold out for a new contract. Instead he went out and was posting a career year by way of demonstrating his displeasure. The EAGLES and Donnie McNabb's insecurities were the ones who turned it into a fiasco.
I became a fan of Owens despite myself (yes, it was the star thing that stuck in my craw) when the man came back from a supposedly season ending injury to return and play his heart out for his team in the Super Bowl. Had the Eagles won the game, he was a shoo in for MVP that day, and any football fan worth his salt will recognize it and admit it.
I am doubly happy to have Owens as a Cowboy. A man with his honesty (honest to a fault if you ask me) and that kind of toughness, that kind of love for the game, that kind of spirit... well, every team could use one, or two if they are lucky. What was it that Tony Romo said of Terrell Owens in the weeks following the Seattle loss? 'Nobody was more supportive of me, a better friend to me after that happened, than Terrell Owens.'
I suppose there are those here who believe that Owens is some sort of a monster, to them I say; learn a little more for yourself and listen a little less to what others would have you believe. And please, don't take my word for it- do a little research for yourself. Once you do that much, once you learn a little more about the man, then Terrell Owens will have won another fan.
Deservedly so, I might add.
Alexander;1516510 said:Romantics believe that our great teams of the 1960s/1970s were all paragons of virtue and we had 50 plus squeaky clean Christians (Staubach) and salts of the earth (Lilly) playing for a similar minded head coach.
Turns out we had our own share of thugs (Thomas Henderson), partiers (Meredith) and arrogant jerks (Duane Thomas). For the most part, that was a different era and teams took great lengths to keep that sort of behavior out of a public forum.
Revisionist history is a wonderful thing. It is amazing what being separated from reality by years of history will do.
Read a little bit about the old Cowboys. Read Walt Garrison. Thomas Henderson. Pete Gent. Then try to sell this type of sentimental amphigory.
nathanlt;1516373 said:Winning is not the only thing. Cheats and liars win. Jerks win. Despicable people win in the short term. Character is more important than winning.
nathanlt;1516373 said:Winning is not the only thing. Cheats and liars win. Jerks win. Despicable people win in the short term. Character is more important than winning.
You are welcomeTHUMPER;1516278 said:Just the response I would expect from someone of your ilk.
TO was as productive as the come, he brought everything I had hoped for and more. The biggest reasons Dallas didn't do anything last year was the defense, poor coaching, poor game day strategy, Bill Parcells, Mike Zimmer.THUMPER;1516278 said:Some people were looking at him as our "savior" who was going to lead us back the SB. yeah, well that didn't happen as Mr. "I have a boo boo on my finger and can't hang onto the ball" led the league YET AGAIN in dropped passes. I have never heard from any of his "fans" what his excuse was all those other seasons when he led the league in dropped passes. Evidently, they don't care because he wasn't a Cowboy then.
Without TO in that SB the Eagles get shelled...THUMPER;1516278 said:Owens has yet to EVER lead a team anywhere. The one team he was on that actually went to the SB did it while he was out!
He made plays he had more tds than any other rec. Don't like him fine, but he is one hell of a football player, and one hell of a wr.THUMPER;1516278 said:Terrell Owens was brought to Dallas to make big plays, to turn short passes into long TDs. Unfortunately, he only took one (yes ONE) short pass and broke it into a long TD last season. Keyshawn did better than that when he was here and that wasn't what he was supposed to be good at. Most of the short passes Owens caught he was stopped immediately. I thought he was supposed to be good at breaking tackles.
I don't like Terrell Owens because he is an individual playing a TEAM sport, period. I don't another reason than that. I don't like his brashness, his arrogance, his whining when he doesn't get every pass thrown his way, his constant self-aggrandizing and drawing attention to himself rather than to the team. He would fit much better in boxing or the UFC or better yet the WWE.
You don't have to like him personally, I am sure he doesn't care if you do or not. But to deny what he brings to this team is just idiotic... To say you would rather the team lose than to have him is just ********. You are a fan of the Cowboys right, well the Cowboys are in the business of winning football games. TO helps us win games.THUMPER;1516278 said:Owens represents everything I dislike about athletes today. His only redeeming quality is that he isn't a criminal. Wow, that's great, good for him.
So if anyone has a problem with my not liking Owens or wanting him on my team, that's just tough, get over it because nothing anyone says is ever going to change my opinion of him.
Damn kids. :bang2:
2233boys;1516702 said:TO helps us win games.
nathanlt;1516586 said:It doesn't make sense to you... fine. Stop calling us crybabies for wanting knuckleheads off the team. It makes perfect sense to a few Cowboys fanatics.
THUMPER;1516278 said:Just the response I would expect from someone of your ilk.
Some people were looking at him as our "savior" who was going to lead us back the SB. yeah, well that didn't happen as Mr. "I have a boo boo on my finger and can't hang onto the ball" led the league YET AGAIN in dropped passes. I have never heard from any of his "fans" what his excuse was all those other seasons when he led the league in dropped passes. Evidently, they don't care because he wasn't a Cowboy then.
Owens has yet to EVER lead a team anywhere. The one team he was on that actually went to the SB did it while he was out!
Terrell Owens was brought to Dallas to make big plays, to turn short passes into long TDs. Unfortunately, he only took one (yes ONE) short pass and broke it into a long TD last season. Keyshawn did better than that when he was here and that wasn't what he was supposed to be good at. Most of the short passes Owens caught he was stopped immediately. I thought he was supposed to be good at breaking tackles.
I don't like Terrell Owens because he is an individual playing a TEAM sport, period. I don't another reason than that. I don't like his brashness, his arrogance, his whining when he doesn't get every pass thrown his way, his constant self-aggrandizing and drawing attention to himself rather than to the team. He would fit much better in boxing or the UFC or better yet the WWE.
Owens represents everything I dislike about athletes today. His only redeeming quality is that he isn't a criminal. Wow, that's great, good for him.
So if anyone has a problem with my not liking Owens or wanting him on my team, that's just tough, get over it because nothing anyone says is ever going to change my opinion of him.
Damn kids. :bang2:
AnyGivenSunday;1516738 said:I think the jury is still out on this....
Alexander;1516742 said:Well, I guess if I allowed what happens in a game to seep into reallife and affect my marriage I would be a "fanatic" like you then.
Thank goodness I am not.
Dallas;1516748 said:You my friend really need to lighten up. There is far more things wrong with this world than Mr. Owens. You act like he stole the family pet.
Have your opinion about that man. Nobody is saying otherwise.
:fact:THUMPER;1516772 said:The funniest thing is that these same people were the first in line to bash Owens when he was with the 49ERs and Eagles. He was a cancer then but he can do no wrong now that he's in Dallas...
THUMPER;1516772 said:You should probably read the whole thread before you say that because I've been called all kinds of names for not liking the sainted Terrell Owens; stupid, idiot, crybaby, etc.
THUMPER;1516033 said:I completely agree with the article. I would rather lose without Owens than win with him, but I guess that's just me.
THUMPER;1516772 said:I am not devastated by Owens being part of the team but I wish he wasn't. I still watch every game, root like crazy, wear my Cowboys stuff, etc. Life goes on as usual.
Alexander;1516775 said:You deserve every bit of the chastizing for comments like "I would rather lose without Owens than win with him".
You can hate him all you want. Nobody is demanding you and others like you to start liking him now or else.
But wishing a loss simply because the team is associated with him is pure and unadulterated foolishness.
Comments like that crossed the line and yet you are shocked that you are ridiculed.