Otree

[Stautner]

I'm just saying, I support pragmatic solutions. If something not working, try something else. I like Crayton where he is and I don’t think he fits well into the starting role. If RW cant find his groove during a game, is not making the catches thrown to him, or is constantly dropping passes, then I don’t see the harm in trying out a different option. Heck, maybe it will light a file under RW and drive him to perform better or maybe KO will be more productive—only one way to find out.

Yeah, blindly experiment.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Or we could do nothing and continue to allow an unproductive receiver to play whole games and blindly hope that he will turn around. Like I said, I wouldnt start him, but why not give him a chance if RW isn't doing anything?

 

[Stautner]

Or we could do nothing and continue to allow an unproductive receiver to play whole games and blindly hope that he will turn around. Like I said, I wouldnt start him, but why not give him a chance if RW isn't doing anything?

Go back and read post # 54.

 

[Denim Chicken]

And I agree, like I said I wouldn’t start him, but I think he should be held accountable. Those also seem like viable options to me.

 

[Stautner]

And I agree, like I said I wouldn’t start him, but I think he should be held accountable. Those also seem like viable options to me.

I agree completely that he should be held accountable. And that the team has to do things to be as productive as possible. I just don't buy into this replace Roy with Ogletree bandwagon. We know WAY too little about Ogletree for that.

 

[casmith07]

Jerry got cute with the draft. He should have just drafted a need,which was WR. Otree is a baller tho and would definitely contribute more than RW.I am not saying start but in the slot,thats sweet.

If you think Jerry got "cute" with the draft, you don't know football.

What Jerry has done last year and this year in the draft is take the right steps toward building a future-proof team. You don't have good franchises for a long time by drafting skill positions, you have good franchises by building that depth of talent on defense, especially at linebacker and defensive back.

Jerry is dong what he should be doing after all of these years, which is only draft a skill position player if at that pick, that player is an absolute, 100%, sure-thing instant contributor. None of the players in this last year's draft had that quality, so Jerry attempted to do what he could to put a Super Bowl winning product on the field and traded for Roy Williams. Are some of those players contributing? Sure. How many of them, however, have been the missing key that's sparked their team's success? None of them. The only player in recent memory that exhibited that quality, in my opinion, was Adrian Peterson.

Now, it won't always work out -- there are plenty of first round busts out there right now and every single year before this one (Bobby Carpenter), and there will be first round busts from here on out, but thankfully all signs appear to point to us being past the point where Jerry would reach in the draft for a Darrius Heyward-Bey.

For once, instead of focusing on some of Jerry's mishaps, we should focus on the good, like brining in players like Keith Brooking, Gerald Sensabaugh & Igor Olshansky -- and for listening to his special teams coach in drafting David Beuhler (no, this isn't a Buehler joke, he combined with McBriar have literally changed the game of field position for us largely in our favor).

Just roll with it; give it time. Kevin Ogletree will likely get his shot. It will take a while but he'll get a chance. We're 7-3 and we've got the Raiders coming to town on a short week, so they have to factor in time zone change plus travel time in a short week! Let's get excited and hopefully see our offense light the Raiders up.

 

[Denim Chicken]

I see your point. Here's hoping something changes. If your #1 receiver is not making plays, he should at least be eliciting double coverage.

 

[Stautner]

I see your point. Here's hoping something changes. If your #1 receiver is not making plays, he should at least be eliciting double coverage.

I agree completely that Roy isn't doing the job. It's not all his fault because Romo has been eratic too, but Roy is catching a much lower percentage of catchable balls than he should, and isn't making the outstanding play at times like you would hope a top receiver could. I'm all for shaking things up A BIT, but nothing too dramatic. It's not as if we are ready to throw in the towel and experiment in an effort to see what we have for the future. We have to build toward the playoffs, and for the most part that means tweaking things, not major changes that include a major gamble on an unknown player.

 

[juck]

If you think Jerry got "cute" with the draft, you don't know football.

What Jerry has done last year and this year in the draft is take the right steps toward building a future-proof team. You don't have good franchises for a long time by drafting skill positions, you have good franchises by building that depth of talent on defense, especially at linebacker and defensive back.

Jerry is dong what he should be doing after all of these years, which is only draft a skill position player if at that pick, that player is an absolute, 100%, sure-thing instant contributor. None of the players in this last year's draft had that quality, so Jerry attempted to do what he could to put a Super Bowl winning product on the field and traded for Roy Williams. Are some of those players contributing? Sure. How many of them, however, have been the missing key that's sparked their team's success? None of them. The only player in recent memory that exhibited that quality, in my opinion, was Adrian Peterson.

Now, it won't always work out -- there are plenty of first round busts out there right now and every single year before this one (Bobby Carpenter), and there will be first round busts from here on out, but thankfully all signs appear to point to us being past the point where Jerry would reach in the draft for a Darrius Heyward-Bey.

For once, instead of focusing on some of Jerry's mishaps, we should focus on the good, like brining in players like Keith Brooking, Gerald Sensabaugh & Igor Olshansky -- and for listening to his special teams coach in drafting David Beuhler (no, this isn't a Buehler joke, he combined with McBriar have literally changed the game of field position for us largely in our favor).

Just roll with it; give it time. Kevin Ogletree will likely get his shot. It will take a while but he'll get a chance. We're 7-3 and we've got the Raiders coming to town on a short week, so they have to factor in time zone change plus travel time in a short week! Let's get excited and hopefully see our offense light the Raiders up.

Well to jerrys defense ,he didnt know RW was going to suck this bad.Now he knows.If we cant light this raiders team up we are officially in major trouble.BTW there are many young WRs taken in the draft that are contributing well.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

He doesnt have to tear it up just get open and move the chains a few times.

Exactly and if that doesnt happen if he only makes one catch he becomes a viable option that needs attention.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Part of our offensive woes the past two weeks are because after teams have begun to put more attention towards MA with a safety over the top, or sliding the defense to his side, Roy has been unable to make them pay, or make them change their tactics.

It's too bad that T.O. was such a jerk off the field, we could sure use his production on the field.

 

[EPL0c0]

did he even see the field on offense on Sunday? Man, Garrett knows how to ignore players

 

[Ren]

Maybe if Otree was from Texas you'd like him ?

or maybe if he could run more then 1 route

 

[Screw The Hall]

It's hard to argue that Ogletree doesn't have a skill set that none of the other receivers on the team have and one the team could find a very definite use for.

But I really don't see why this has to be an either or situation. The kid has made some plays in limited action. It's time to see if he'll make more with a little more action. That's how it's supposed to work right?

This shouldn't and wouldn't affect Roy and his opportunities at all.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

If given the opportunity Otree could easily out perform RW.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

or maybe if he could run more then 1 route

LoL what a joke. It comes to the point where ppl see my name and just have to disagree with what I post no matter what.

 

[jobberone]

RW sharing some of his snaps with the other WRs is a viable option. But I'm not certain this is going to happen soon. I doubt anything changes for the Raiders unless we get up more than 14 points. Even in that scenario you would think it the perfect time for Romo and RW to play catch and try to sync up.

One thing is for sure. We cannot continue to waste snaps throwing to RW, assuming things don't change, thru the rest of the season. Something has to give and starting Olgetree will not be that option. You're not going into December starting an unproven rookie. I can see the possibility of RW losing some snaps and certainly less passes thrown his way. That's about it.

 

[BourbonBalz]

It's hard to argue that Ogletree doesn't have a skill set that none of the other receivers on the team have and one the team could find a very definite use for.

But I really don't see why this has to be an either or situation. The kid has made some plays in limited action. It's time to see if he'll make more with a little more action. That's how it's supposed to work right?

This shouldn't and wouldn't affect Roy and his opportunities at all.

Exactly what I said. Those who think we should plug Ogletree in as a starter over Roy Williams just don't have a clue. However, I do think he should get some snaps since he does bring something none of our other receivers do: quickness and the ability to get off the line.

 

[BourbonBalz]

If given the opportunity Otree could easily out perform RW.

Which NFL team just hired you as an OC, when do you start, and how much $ are you gonna make?