Our cap situation

[Verdict]

There really is no evidence that Watkins would improve production AT ALL. Not only that but probably reduced production which makes an evaluation of Dak even harder next year.

Watkins in a walker would be an upgrade over Dez. I would say keeping Dez will set Dak back and make it even harder to evaluate Dak properly.

 

[Sydla]

- Cut Mayowa
- Cut Beasley
- Cut Hanna
- Cut Scandrick

$11MM saved.

- Restructure Dez
- Restructure Frederick
- Restructure Witten

Save another $13MM or so

$24MM in cap space without actually destroying future cap years.

Sign a vet OG. Sign a vet OT.

You still likely have around $15-18MM to play with.

This isn't that hard.

 

[condoin125]

In fairness to you, no one really knows if Dez can rebound or not. It is conceivably possible that he could return to his pre "getting paid" form. I don't think he will. You do. I respect your opinion on it and quite frankly if Dez stays I hope you turn out to be right on this issue.

On the other hand, the problem I have with your point of view is that you are conveniently ignoring the fact that he has quite literally underperformed for three straight years (after getting paid) and ASSUME that it is going to take something great to replace Dez' production. You are ASSUMING Dez' production is pre contract signing Dez.

While I agree that COULD happen, I don't see that as a safe assumption. It is quite honestly wishful thinking.

If you are going to assume something (which is fine) why not project Dez going forward based on his most recenct three years? Isn't that more realistic? I mean, Dez is getting OLDER not younger, the wear and tear is adding up on his body, Dak isn't going away, at least this year (moderately safe assumption) and Dez' comments seem to indicate he feels the heat and is panicking at least a small amount.

Dez hasn't said anything about hey I realize I have sucked three straight years so I am going to really concentrate on route running. The indications are that Dez is going to "shut up his detractors" by doing the same thing he has always done. That's probably not a recipe for success for Dez.

When Dez does the same thing he has always done and he gets the same result I don't see Dez looking in the mirror and saying "It's my fault". He is going to melt down and pile on Dak. At least that's the direction it seems to be going. The coaches will be thrown under the bus too. You can see it coming.

So projecting what Dez will do this year he could "go off" and "beast" as the Dez Fan Bois like to say. But isn't it more likely that Dez will decline a little bit more this year and drop off in his production just at least to a small degree?

I think a drop off is more likely, unless he reinvents himself. I would love to see that, but he doesn't seem to see that his failure to progress is part of the problem. If he hasn't accepted that fact then why would he change anything?

Dez hasn't "sucked" for three straight years. He missed nearly half of 2015 with injuries...that's not "sucking." He missed three games in 2016, but in 13 games had 800 yards and 8 TDs; project those average over 16 full games and he has over 1000 yards and double digit TDs. Not necessarily super star numbers but definitely not "sucking." That also doesn't count what he did vs GB in the playoffs (132 yards, 2 TDs). 2017 has been debated to death on this forum and the previous one I came from....Dez wasn't lights out but he wasn't getting much help from his QB. To say he has "sucked" for three years is hyperbolic.

 

[ghostdog]

- Cut Mayowa
- Cut Beasley
- Cut Hanna
- Cut Scandrick

$11MM saved.

- Restructure Dez
- Restructure Frederick
- Restructure Witten

Save another $13MM or so

$24MM in cap space without actually destroying future cap years.

Sign a vet OG. Sign a vet OT.

You still likely have around $15-18MM to play with.

This isn't that hard.

No it isn't. The hard part is assimilating the new talent into what you do. Personally I think your biggest problem is schematics. You run two of the oldest scheme in the league. I'm not sure just out-executing teams is enough anymore. Because they are such simple schemes to decipher better talent will always beat you and so will better game planning.

 

[Sydla]

No it isn't. The hard part is assimilating the new talent into what you do. Personally I think your biggest problem is schematics. You run two of the oldest scheme in the league. I'm not sure just out-executing teams is enough anymore. Because they are such simple schemes to decipher better talent will always beat you and so will better game planning.

Don't get me started on our coaches.

 

[ghostdog]

Don't get me started on our coaches.

I think your schemes limits your coaches. It's hard to be creative in such vanilla schemes.

 

[Sydla]

I think your schemes limits your coaches. It's hard to be creative in such vanilla schemes.

The coaches create the schemes. They are the problem......... well namely Garrett, Linehan and Marinelli.

 

[Rockport]

Stephen Stephen Stephen, how you got us here babe, priceless.

The eagles turn around a mess in 2 seasons and we dump papers on the floor and say "see, we are so well off"

Waa, waa, waaaaaaa!

 

[Rockport]

Don't get me started on our coaches.

You started years ago and are still going strong who are you kidding.

 

[Verdict]

- Cut Mayowa
- Cut Beasley
- Cut Hanna
- Cut Scandrick

$11MM saved.

- Restructure Dez
- Restructure Frederick
- Restructure Witten

Save another $13MM or so

$24MM in cap space without actually destroying future cap years.

Sign a vet OG. Sign a vet OT.

You still likely have around $15-18MM to play with.

This isn't that hard.

Why anyone would want to kick the can can the road with Dez and Witten is baffling to me. It compounds the original problem. Sort of like accidentally clicking on Chinese at the ATM when you only speak English, but instead of backing up and starting over, plowing forward and compounding the original problem ten fold.

 

[Sydla]

Why anyone would want to kick the can can the road with Dez and Witten is baffling to me. It compounds the original problem. Sort of like accidentally clicking on Chinese at the ATM when you only speak English, but instead of backing up and starting over, plowing forward and compounding the original problem ten fold.

Oh, I would cut Witten but I know that's an impossibility with this owner. HE is what he is and while he's not the guy from 7 years ago, he's probably going to be the same player he is now for a couple more years. Give him a few extra bucks and spread it out over two years, saving a couple of million? Worth it.

I don't have the over the top hate for Dez that you do. And we know this team isn't cutting him. You can sit there and pound your fist all you want, it's not happening. I also don't believe Dez is some washed up WR.

 

[ESisback]

- Cut Mayowa
- Cut Beasley
- Cut Hanna
- Cut Scandrick

$11MM saved.

- Restructure Dez
- Restructure Frederick
- Restructure Witten

Save another $13MM or so

$24MM in cap space without actually destroying future cap years.

Sign a vet OG. Sign a vet OT.

You still likely have around $15-18MM to play with.

This isn't that hard.

Sounds logical, so why WOULDN'T Stephen do it? Different agenda is the only reason I can think of, but I'm stuck on what that agenda might be.

 

[northerncowboynation]

Maybe so. I probably wouldn't cut Beasley. I would find a way to get Beasley and Switzer on the field at the same time. I would probably play Switzer as the 3rd down back some and use him in the passing game. He and Beasley are slippery as hell. Don't you think the Hoodie would have them both on the field at the same time?

I just liked Sydla's out of the box thinking on it lol. For most fans it's cut Dez.

 

[Sydla]

There's no point in playing Beasley close to $5MM if you are going to use Switzer more. They are the same player.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Spotrac does adjust for rollover, so take that fwiw.

Releasing or trading Scandrick saves $1.4M
Mayowa $2.75M

However, Irving's tender will eat those savings.

They will have to restructure Tyron and Frederick's deals, and I guess you could look at Crawford to restructure if you had to but I wouldn't.

yA YA YA YA keep restructuring contracts its worked so well for us since Jerry became the GM....

 

[ShiningStar]

Waa, waa, waaaaaaa!

yes i know, some of the posters love our mediocrity and they dont want to be successful.

 

[Rockport]

yes i know, some of the posters love our mediocrity and they dont want to be successful.

That's not it and you know it. It's your CONSTANT negativity that's disturbing.

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

Our cap has never been "in good shape"

 

[ShiningStar]

That's not it and you know it. It's your CONSTANT negativity that's disturbing.

only the ones you pay attention to.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Witten is catching balls because other teams WANT Witten catching balls because you use a sun dial to measure Witten's 40.

I love this post. My response is always the same.

At what point in JWit's career has he ever been known as a speed demon or possessing above average speed?

The only reason people say he is slowing down is very simple - they look at his age.