Our futility is historic

Diehardblues said:
Good question.

In the NFC only Dallas, Det and Wash. And I believe in the AFC only Miami hasn’t . Cinn got off that list last year .
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The number who have made it multiple times since we last did it is pretty long too. We are on an embarrassing run postseason wise.

It's kind of silly to try to argue otherwise.
 
rambo2 said:
He pretty much has won more games in the past 2 years than anybody in the NFC and is a Super Bowl winner as well. 1 more Super Bowl win and he will have as many as Landry, Parcells, and Johnson.
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I think a bunch of this back and forth could be summarized.

You are content, happy, and hopeful with the Dallas Cowboys’ future prospects as long as there is a team and they show up to the games in the correct uniforms. Good regular season success to you proves the team’s chances at bigger/better postseason success stays the same or goes up.

Lots of fans need a Cowboys’ CCG appearance once every 7-8 years to have more of those feelings. Lack of postseason success over numerous seasons and those recently points to a reality that the squad is topping out. Without actually progressing further in the tournament proves that the team is just a good regular season team. These fans won’t exchange their standard of excellence to feel good about regular season success (just from a Cowboys’ fan perspective).
 
Sydla said:
Yeah you don't have a realistic view at all. The Cowboys have been inept in the postseason for 20+ years and yet you are in this thread trying to convince people that's not the case.

So no, you aren't being realistic.
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1 and 1 with a 7 point loss on the road is inept?
 
FuzzyLumpkins said:
There are 11 teams that have never won a super bowl. There are teams older than us that have never won and only made the CCG twice.

That was the point I was making about biasing. When you look at NFL history that is the historically bad. You simply restated what I was replying to in the first place and then it was narrative story time. Reads like bad talk radio.

Jerry sees the trophies he held up on the field gameday every time he walks into the office. This pettiness about who gets credit between two noted egomaniacs always seemed to miss the point to me.
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So you agree with the fact that the Cowboys have largely been inept in the postseason for 20+ years, which coincides with Jerry taking full control as GM?
 
rambo2 said:
1 and 1 with a 7 point loss on the road is inept?
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Yeah, when taken in context with the overall run the Cowboys are on in the postseason. The Cowboys have largely been inept in the postseason for over 20 years. They have 4 playoff wins since 2000. FOUR. That averages to like one postseason win every 5.5 years. That's pathetic. We'd laugh at the Giants or Eagles if they were on that kind of historic run.

So no, going 1-1 this January doesn't somehow take the inept tag off their postseason run.

It's almost embarrassing how much in the tank you are for the Cowboys. You can't even admit what is painfully obvious. ****, even Rockport acknowledges the Cowboys, under Jerry as GM, have been a postseason failure for the most part.
 
rambo2 said:
I laugh at you. Being realistic is looking at the current team, not crying over results from 20 years ago. Enjoy the ride.
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The current team failed to do anything more than previous teams over the last 20 years accomplished. That is advance to a conference title game.

They failed. Again. Like the previous Cowboys teams over the last 20+ years.
 
PA Cowboy Fan said:
Going to be fun if he puts Ware in the ROH this year. Everyone should ask him when's Jimmy going in?
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Every media member should ask him that question if they found themselves in a one-on-situation with Jones but it will not happen. Most will simply lob softballs at him as usual. Plus, I doubt Jones will put himself into another on-camera discussion situation with anyone like Terry Bradshaw or Troy Aikman, who are not intimidated by him. His avoidance would make it even less likely for him to get the question posed to him.
 
Blitzen said:
I think a bunch of this back and forth could be summarized.

You are content, happy, and hopeful with the Dallas Cowboys’ future prospects as long as there is a team and they show up to the games in the correct uniforms. Good regular season success to you proves the team’s chances at bigger/better postseason success stays the same or goes up.

Lots of fans need a Cowboys’ CCG appearance once every 7-8 years to have more of those feelings. Lack of postseason success over numerous seasons and those recently points to a reality that the squad is topping out. Without actually progressing further in the tournament proves that the team is just a good regular season team. These fans won’t exchange their standard of excellence to feel good about regular season success (just from a Cowboys’ fan perspective).
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It's like you wonder if he's faking it.
I'll even go further.
Simple explanation.
2007 13-3 #1 Seed and one and done was NOT a good season.
Same as 2016.
Last year's beating Tampa after 12-5 as thay were a poor 8-9 playoff team and then to lose to the same SF team in basically the same way you lost before was NOT a good season.

To respond to others in a negative way who have patiently waited for 28 years for a minimum NFC championship game appearance probably means they must be a Jones family member.

Regular season success is fools gold.

Genuine success has banners and trophies.
NOT what's currently happening with this team.
 
Risen Star said:
Don't you just want to sink a fist right into his piehole?
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Just keep them relative and the dollars keep flowing. He would rather have 10 seasons of 10-7 to 12-5 than a shot and the go 5-12 to 7-10 for a couple years.
 
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75boyz said:
It's like you wonder if he's faking it.
I'll even go further.
Simple explanation.
2007 13-3 #1 Seed and one and done was NOT a good season.
Same as 2016.
Last year's beating Tampa after 12-5 as thay were a poor 8-9 playoff team and then to lose to the same SF team in basically the same way you lost before was NOT a good season.

To respond to others in a negative way who have patiently waited for 28 years for a minimum NFC championship game appearance probably means they must be a Jones family member.

Regular season success is fools gold.

Genuine success has banners and trophies.
NOT what's currently happening with this team.
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Not a good season? The doom and gloomers said the season was over after the first game and that they were not a good team. It was a very good season. You are blind to what is going on in the NFL if you think 13 wins isn't good. Almost half of the 13 wins were against teams in the playoffs and you claim that isn't good. To say they weren't good is just ignorant on your part.
 
Big_D said:
The important thing is he really wants to win. That seems to get lost in these inane statistics.
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I think he wants a Super Bowl win more than almost anyone here.
Wanting it and having it are not the same, clearly
 
DFWJC said:
I think he wants a Super Bowl win more than almost anyone here.
Wanting it and having it are not the same, clearly
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Of course he wants to win more than anyone , but only his way unwilling to hire another GM.

That’s why most critics argue winning isn’t the top priority.
 
DFWJC said:
I think he wants a Super Bowl win more than almost anyone here.
Wanting it and having it are not the same, clearly
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How can you say this? I can prove you wrong right now; I want to win more than Jerry because if I was in his same spot I would quit as GM and go out and hire the best GM on earth that money could buy.

Jerry refuses to do this, thus I want to win a Super Bowl more than Jerry Jones does.
 
Cowboys5217 said:
How can you say this? I can prove you wrong right now; I want to win more than Jerry because if I was in his same spot I would quit as GM and go out and hire the best GM on earth that money could buy.

Jerry refuses to do this, thus I want to win a Super Bowl more than Jerry Jones does.
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I can say it because I believe it.
I'm fine if you disagree.

And I don't really think Jerry has been GM for years now....though i have always wished he would just hire one man to do the job vs this committee approach.
Most in NFL circles think Dallas has done well in roster building and most feel Mccarthy and Quinn where decent hires

So he continues to think his 3 headed GM of McClay, Jerry and Stephen is working well
 
DFWJC said:
And I don't really think Jerry has been GM for years now....
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Jerry Jones certainly considers himself to be the GM

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and he takes sole credit for GM activities such as roster building, drafting, trades, and hiring of coaches:

https://www.dallascowboys.com/team/front-office-roster/jerry-jones
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Big_D said:
The important thing is he really wants to win. That seems to get lost in these inane statistics.
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No, he doesn't. He wants to win his way or no way. That's the entire problem and why this won't change.
 
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