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AdamJT13 said:
Barron allowed only 5.75 sacks, but he started only 11 games and was flagged for 16 penalties. Kaczur started only 11 games and allowed 8.25 sacks, which prorates to 12 sacks for a 16-game season. So Petitti allowed only 1.5 more sacks than Kaczur would have over 16 games, despite having a quarterback who gets sacked far more often.

Petitti might have struggled, and those guys might have played better, but it wasn't by much, if at all.


Exactly.

I don't think Petitti's play was as horrible as many want to make it out to be.

Personally I think he can cut his sacks in half next year.
 

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Ware often dropped into coverage, so he wasn't a full-time rusher.


Porter is an outside linebacker.


I just pulled that from Yahoo... I agree that Porter is an OLB.

As for the coverage. I believe Jason Taylor had 10 PDs this year to go with his 12 Sacks this year. Many good pass rushers occasionally drop into coverage. I remember Kearse doing it several times from his DE spot as well. My point was simply that most teams (including the cowboys) rush 4 men each play. If you had to select the 4 starters most often rushed by the cowboys, Ware would be run of them. By your defenition of full time rusher, there weren't any LBs on 3-4 teams this year, and several DEs in 4-3s wouldn't qualify either.

Again... my point was that it's not quite right to say that teams Doubled Ware because they didn't have any pressure from the other side. That simply isn't true.
 

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AsthmaField said:
I'm kind of with you on that... if ten different services does an all rookie team, you'd have ten different teams. Everybody has their own opinion and grading criteria.

This is just what the guys at Ourlad's think.


I've always held Ourlads in high regard. IMHO they are much more accurate than Kiper.

As for Rob P., again I didn't think he was nearly as bad as what many on this board seem to think.

Bledsoe probably accounted for 1/4 of the sacks he gave up.

Give Rob a good offseason and I think he can cut those sack numbers in half... I really believe that.
 

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playit12 said:
I just pulled that from Yahoo... I agree that Porter is an OLB.

As for the coverage. I believe Jason Taylor had 10 PDs this year to go with his 12 Sacks this year. Many good pass rushers occasionally drop into coverage. I remember Kearse doing it several times from his DE spot as well. My point was simply that most teams (including the cowboys) rush 4 men each play. If you had to select the 4 starters most often rushed by the cowboys, Ware would be run of them. By your defenition of full time rusher, there weren't any LBs on 3-4 teams this year, and several DEs in 4-3s wouldn't qualify either.

Again... my point was that it's not quite right to say that teams Doubled Ware because they didn't have any pressure from the other side. That simply isn't true.

Passes batted at the line of scrimmage are counted as passes defended I believe. Ellis had about 6 of those this year. So, you don't have to drop back to get PDs on your stat chart.
 

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playit12 said:
I just pulled that from Yahoo... I agree that Porter is an OLB.

As for the coverage. I believe Jason Taylor had 10 PDs this year to go with his 12 Sacks this year. Many good pass rushers occasionally drop into coverage. I remember Kearse doing it several times from his DE spot as well. My point was simply that most teams (including the cowboys) rush 4 men each play. If you had to select the 4 starters most often rushed by the cowboys, Ware would be run of them. By your defenition of full time rusher, there weren't any LBs on 3-4 teams this year, and several DEs in 4-3s wouldn't qualify either.

Again... my point was that it's not quite right to say that teams Doubled Ware because they didn't have any pressure from the other side. That simply isn't true.

Taylor was playing more of an OLB/DE role than pure hand on the ground DE this year.
 
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