Owen Schmitt

[theogt]

From the DraftDaddy article: "National Scouting also is the logistical organizer of record for the event in Indianapolis."

This means that they do the Scouting Combine in Indy in addition to their other services. So, Fuzzy is calling DraftDaddy site a liar. Me a liar. And the operator of NFLDraftScout.com a liar. Someone just can't stand being proven wrong.

By the way, Jeff Ireland worked for National Scouting before he became an NFL scout. Also, it turns out National Scouting does have a web address:

http://www.nationalfootballscouting.com/

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Prove that he doesn't.

Yes, they run the Combine. And they provide other services as well.

That name-calling crutch is never too far is it?

I provided the link to the only article for which he wasnt even given credit for as the author that hes been involved in with USA Today. Thats proof.

Your USATODAY.com Site search returned no results.

is the result of putting in Hitterman in the search at www.usatoday.com .

And you dont know they provide anything more your jsut guessing. Find where on their website they offer anything more than that. Youre so full of crap. Go to www.nationalscoutingcombine.com and look for links to anything but combine information or the parent site for the total company or anything.

and no its really like arguing with a child when you cannot even keep up with the points im arguing and continue to go after red herrings.

you ask for proof when its already provided.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

From the DraftDaddy article: "National Scouting also is the logistical organizer of record for the event in Indianapolis."

This means that they do the Scouting Combine in Indy in addition to their other services. So, Fuzzy is calling DraftDaddy site a liar. Me a liar. And the operator of NFLDraftScout.com a liar. Someone just can't stand being proven wrong.

By the way, Jeff Ireland worked for National Scouting before he became an NFL scout. Also, it turns out National Scouting does have a web address:

http://www.nationalfootballscouting.com/

it doesnt say they report on underclassmen without times. keep looking for that gem chachi.

LMAO that sire has the text without any links on white background of their address in Indy. Sure a good way to get 143k out of people for 'additional services'

National Football Scouting, Inc. - National Invitational Camp, Inc.

201 South Capitol Avenue, Suite 400
Indianapolis, IN 46225

Tel: 317.687.8100
Fax: 317.687.8111

 

[theogt]

I provided the link to the only article for which he wasnt even given credit for as the author that hes been involved in with USA Today. Thats proof.



is the result of putting in Hitterman in the search at www.usatoday.com .

That's not proving squat.

And you dont know they provide anything more your jsut guessing. Find where on their website they offer anything more than that. Youre so full of crap. Go to www.nationalscoutingcombine.com and look for links to anything but combine information or the parent site for the total company or anything.

http://www.nationalfootballscouting.com/

Give them a call and see.

and no its really like arguing with a child when you cannot even keep up with the points im arguing and continue to go after red herrings.

you ask for proof when its already provided.

Name-calling. It's all you got. Oh, that and calling everyone a liar.

 

[theogt]

it doesnt say they report on underclassmen without times. keep looking for that gem chachi.

Actually it does:

"As scouts evaluate the current class of seniors visiting schools' pro days, they often work out underclassmen for future draft years. This data and other information is presented at meetings (usually in Florida) about two weeks after the current draft."

Learn to read.

LMAO that sire has the text without any links on white background of their address in Indy. Sure a good way to get 143k out of people for 'additional services'

This is your argument? They don't need a site to get paid by the teams. They're organizations that are formed by the teams. Each teams provides a scout to the organization, in addition to the fees, to be a member. They don't need a site.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Oh and i just called you clueless; not a liar. Thats a big difference and youre making logical conclusions form the draftdaddy site that arent there. thats you again being clueless.

Hitterman on the other hand is a liar.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Actually it does:

"As scouts evaluate the current class of seniors visiting schools' pro days, they often work out underclassmen for future draft years. This data and other information is presented at meetings (usually in Florida) about two weeks after the current draft."

Learn to read.

hey i referenced that passage before it says underclassmen they work out. Remember when i said:

SCHMITT HASNT RUN!!!

Before you pop off about reading comprehension perhaps some introspection is needed.

 

[theogt]

Oh and i just called you clueless; not a liar. Thats a big difference and youre making logical conclusions form the draftdaddy site that arent there. thats you again being clueless.

Hitterman on the other hand is a liar.

Draft Daddy is a liar too, I suppose. You just can't stand to be wrong, can you? We're all just liars, and Fuzzy is right! Deny! Deny!

hey i referenced that passage before it says underclassmen they work out. Remember when i said:

SCHMITT HASNT RUN!!!

Before you pop off about reading comprehension perhaps some introspection is needed.

Yes, and when they don't have actual times they provide estimates as stated in the e-mail.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Draft Daddy too, I suppose. You just can't stand to be wrong, can you?

Yes, and when they don't have actual times they provide estimates as stated in the e-mail.

Lets address Hitterman since your so intent on ignoring it. Hes a liar. He doesnt work for USAToday.

And that draft daddy article doesnt say that BLESTO/Combine are in the business of making up numbers and presenting them as fact. That would be Mr USA Today and you.

 

[theogt]

http://www.houstonprofootball.com/draft/2005/2005blesto.html

The scouting combines are organizations to which NFL teams subscribe in order to share scouting information. There are currently two combines:

BLESTO (an acronym for Bears, Lions, Eagles, Steelers Talent Organization) is headquartered in Pittsburgh. The Texans, Bills, Dolphins, Browns, Steelers, Jaguars, Cowboys, Giants, Bears, Lions, Vikings, and Falcons subscribe to BLESTO.

National Football Scouting, commonly called “the National,” is based in Tulsa. The Jets, Bengals, Titans, Broncos, Chargers, Chiefs, Eagles, Packers, Buccaneers, Panthers, Saints, 49ers, Cardinals, Rams, and Seahawks subscribe to the National.

It should come as no surprise that the maverick Raiders do not subscribe to either combine. Neither do the Patriots, Ravens, Colts, or Commanders. The team affiliations with each combine are fairly stable, but it is not unheard of for a franchise to switch or drop out completely. For example, the Eagles, a founding member of BLESTO, now subscribe to the National.

Just because the Texans and Cowboys both subscribe to BLESTO, it does not mean that Jerry Jones gets to thumb through Charley Casserly’s scouting notes. Each subscriber provides a scout, or scout, to the combine, with each scout assigned to cover a certain region of the country. The idea is that by pooling their scouting resources, the subscribers cut down on expenses and more effectively cover the country.

The combine scouts fan out each spring, attending spring practices and junior days (which are similar to the pre-draft pro day workouts held on campuses, but for the seniors-to-be in the programs). The scouts then meet, usually in Florida, and each one presents his report on the players he observed and a grade for each. Another scout typically provides a second opinion on each prospect. Each subscriber franchise receives this information.

Another liar, apparently.

 

[theogt]

Lets address Hitterman since your so intent on ignoring it. Hes a liar. He doesnt work for USAToday.

He works for SportsXchange, which works for USA Today, along with NFL.com.

And that draft daddy article doesnt say that BLESTO/Combine are in the business of making up numbers and presenting them as fact. That would be Mr USA Today and you.

That's fine, I understand that you have to call people liars to win the argument.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

http://www.houstonprofootball.com/draft/2005/2005blesto.html

Another liar, apparently.

Are you stupid? It says in the second bolded part that the scouts give reports on players that they observe.

SCHMITT DIDNT RUN. WVU DIDNT RUN.

 

[theogt]

Are you stupid? It says in the second bolded part that the scouts give reports on players that they observe.

SCHMITT DIDNT RUN. WVU DIDNT RUN.

Of course he didn't run. That's why they provide an estimate instead. Are you really this dense?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He works for SportsXchange, which works for USA Today, along with NFL.com.

That's fine, I understand that you have to call people liars to win the argument.

He put it under his sig and didnt put sportsxchange in his sig. its a baldfaced misrepresentation.

If i put Lockheed-Martin in my sig becaues i was mentioned in their newsletter 4 years ago that pretty damn shady.

But again you want to buy it then fine.

 

[theogt]

Let's get a rundown of what's happened here.

1. Fuzzy didn't think they existed. I showed that they did.
2. Fuzzy didn't believe that I had e-mailed them and asked where they got their times. I provided the e-mail.
3. Fuzzy now thinks the guy was lying.

The only thing that will convince Fuzzy that he's wrong is actually taking video of the scouts watching the players and making estimates. Of course, then he'd probably just suggest that it was all CGI.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Of course he didn't run. That's why they provide an estimate instead. Are you really this dense?

the article says it reported prospects they have observed. Blesto and the combine have not observed. The draft daddy article and Mr USA Todays fabrication are mutually exclusive.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Let's get a rundown of what's happened here.

1. Fuzzy didn't think they existed. I showed that they did.
2. Fuzzy didn't believe that I had e-mailed them and asked where they got their times. I provided the e-mail.
3. Fuzzy now thinks the guy was lying.

The only thing that will convince Fuzzy that he's wrong is actually taking video of the scouts watching the players and making estimates. Of course, then he'd probably just suggest that it was all CGI.

i stated that national scouting existed and ran the combine from the get go. Now you are a liar.

 

[theogt]

He put it under his sig and didnt put sportsxchange in his sig. its a baldfaced misrepresentation.

If i put Lockheed-Martin in my sig becaues i was mentioned in their newsletter 4 years ago that pretty damn shady.

But again you want to buy it then fine.

Wow. This is sad. You seriously have some mental issues.

 

[theogt]

i stated that national scouting existed and ran the combine from the get go. Now you are a liar.

Actually, in the beginning you didn't believe they existed. I proved you wrong. Then you stated that they ran the Combine, but that's all that they did. And again, I proved you wrong.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Wow. This is sad. You seriously have some mental issues.

Yeah obviously....

What is it that you say? Getting on that crutch.

That is you being a hypocrite. At least i give detailed examples of teenage behavior and how yours mirrors it.