Owens says trade is a possibility?

[Trophy#6]

Lol 50 Cent's burried you all in this thread. Homerism is a disease and half this place is blinded with it.

I just love this moral conscience the Dallas Cowboy fans have taken all of a sudden with the arrival of Bill. As if he just handed us all a bible.

On a football field, regardless of colors or logos, in all facets of the game, TO is one of the very best, period.

In comparison to Keyshawn, the only difference between these two boys is one....TO is a helluva lot better on the field.

And for the poster who used TO causing the problems the year right after a super bowl for his team... Keyshawn and the Bucs were also one year removed too. The difference though, Keyshawn was actually playing for a Super Bowl Winning team when he decided to have his fit that landed him in Dallas the very next year.

Moving on too, 50 was even more right on the comparison between Irvin and Owens. The same hand-basket to hell that made TO, made Irvin first, and he was ours....and we loved him, many faults and all.

Seriously, all TO needs to turn his life into something new is some of the same Tuna-Flavored Kool-Aide half of us have been drinking.

And in closing, Bill Parcells, an-ex New York Giant coach, is our coach. A guy who speaks exactly what's on his mind and is prone to throw fits on the sideline- flaired with much over the top drama to push his point across. His best friend, an insane basketball court, chair thrower. His favorite player, a ballhawkin self-absorbed, MeShawn. His best player ever, a rotten-nosed cokehead who sent hookers to other teams to disrupt them the nights before games, and god only knows whatelse.

TO's perfect fit would be here in Dallas, IMHO. Combined with Bledsoe, Jones, MeShawn and Witten, we would be Super Bowl bound if we were to add a player of TO's calibur to this team right now. And if any coach TO could relate to and would beable to keep his antics in line, it's Bill. Not to mention he would be coming in and immediatly seeing what Bill does for a guy like MeShawn who 2 years ago was a butt-joke in the NFL after being suspended for a very TO-Like antic.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

And in closing, Bill Parcells, an-ex New York Giant coach, is our coach. A guy who speaks exactly what's on his mind and is prone to throw fits on the sideline- flaired with much over the top drama to push his point across. His best friend, an insane basketball court, chair thrower. His favorite player, a ballhawkin self-absorbed, MeShawn. His best player ever, a rotten-nosed cokehead who sent hookers to other teams to disrupt them the nights before games, and god only knows whatelse.

So true, and so hilariously written.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

I'll say again, this TO situation has nothing to do with anything except for the star inncident.QUOTE]

Fifty,

I'm not certain why only a few are comprehending what you're trying to say. I read all of your posts, and I keep hearing you try to convey that T.O. is a valuable commodity to any franchise with a strong Coach like BP. That's just a fact!

What complicates this matter for most here is T.O.'s "post" touchdown antics (specifically the Cowboy's Star). T.O. could care less about the "Star," the Eagle, or any other franchise's logo. His objective was non-personal -- after scoring points, he wants to get into both the opponent's, and the crowd's head so he and his team (whatever team He's On at that Time), can score more touchdowns. If dancing on the star fits that objective ...whatever! No one said opponent fans can't dislike His antics -- they've already expressed their distain. However, most are not looking at this 4 or 5 time pro-bowler from an objective perspective. I can empathize. For example, when Roy Williams whipped Out one of his "horsecollar" special tackles and injured T.O. right before the playoffs/Superbowl, Eagle fans everywhere were furious! But for those of you who have the cojones to venture into the Eagles MB, you'd Know that most (except haters and trolls); including myself, felt that Roy's hit was clean. In fact, IMHO, Roy is one of the better players in the NFL -- you couldn't change that no matter how you feel about Roy or T.O.!

Alright, so let me leave you with this thought before I pack my bags to go check out what the Kansas City Chiefs are doing ...T.O. is a threat to the Cowboys, or any other opponent team -- that's if you're smart! If he stays and plays with the Eagles, he'll hurt you. That's probabLy a reason to hate Him right now. But I see Fifty saying that if T.O. ever makes it to the shores of the Dallas (figuratively speaking), he'll reek havoc on any team out there; like him or not!

I can't say for sure whether he'll play with the Eagles in 2005; but I honestly believe he'll have that press conference to announce a resolution to this mess and make another bid for the Superbowl wearing an Eagles uniform; like it or not!

 

[JackMagist]

I ain't smoking nuttin. Its easy to say that you would sign this guy or that guy, but our history as Cowboys has always gone away from the norm. As soon as TO score a TD or runs the entire field to make a TD block for JJ, everyone will love him regardless of which team he signs with. I would sign any and every player that plays with his passion and performs after he opens his mouth.

TO was supposed to be a target for the Ravens and he single handedly turn that bulls eye on his chest into one on any player on the Ravens roster on the first play from scrimmage.

Not one single person can put themselves in his shoes and say that they would do different. Its the nature of the business, even Michael Jordan threatened to sit if he didn't make his values wirth. Deal with it, its going to continue for years to come. Just relate his situation to your job! You would want your job knowing your outperforming others and aren't getting paid for it. Then add the fact that no matter what he does, someone is watching and trying to set him up for failure. He has still yet to have any off the feild incidents.

People resent him for speaking the truth and that whole running to the star thing, but he makes plays and others around him better, and no one can deny that!

You're wrong on several counts here when you make the absolute statements that everyone would do this and no one can say that they would do that...

First I would hate TO regardless of what uniform he wears and that includes the Cowboys uniform. I never liked Deion Sanders even as a Cowboy and I have far more animosity toward TO than I ever did toward Deion. I might like the plays that he might make but I would hate him as a player and no matter how many plays he made for us that would NOT change.

Second I CAN say that I would do things differently if I were in his shoes. I can definitely say that I would not turn around and try to hold up the team that I had just signed a $42 mil contract with. It is unscrupulous and unethical; I was raised in the Old School tradition where a man’s word is his bond and I can say unequivocally that I would not break a brand new contract.

I don't hate him for speaking the truth; I’ve yet to hear him do that. I hate him for being the biggest pain in the *** crybaby in professional sports. I hate him for setting a bad example for the youth that look up to him. I hate him for his absolute lack of character and I would be livid if the Cowboys signed him. TO needs to remember that Andre Rison was as talented as TO is and look how he ended up because he was such a screwball troublemaker. TO could end up in the same boat as Rison...out of the game prematurely and trying to make a comeback up in Canada. And I'd say GOOD RIDDANCE.

 

[1fisher]

Lol 50 Cent's burried you all in this thread. Homerism is a disease and half this place is blinded with it.

I just love this moral conscience the Dallas Cowboy fans have taken all of a sudden with the arrival of Bill. As if he just handed us all a bible.

On a football field, regardless of colors or logos, in all facets of the game, TO is one of the very best, period.

In comparison to Keyshawn, the only difference between these two boys is one....TO is a helluva lot better on the field.

And for the poster who used TO causing the problems the year right after a super bowl for his team... Keyshawn and the Bucs were also one year removed too. The difference though, Keyshawn was actually playing for a Super Bowl Winning team when he decided to have his fit that landed him in Dallas the very next year.

Moving on too, 50 was even more right on the comparison between Irvin and Owens. The same hand-basket to hell that made TO, made Irvin first, and he was ours....and we loved him, many faults and all.

Seriously, all TO needs to turn his life into something new is some of the same Tuna-Flavored Kool-Aide half of us have been drinking.

And in closing, Bill Parcells, an-ex New York Giant coach, is our coach. A guy who speaks exactly what's on his mind and is prone to throw fits on the sideline- flaired with much over the top drama to push his point across. His best friend, an insane basketball court, chair thrower. His favorite player, a ballhawkin self-absorbed, MeShawn. His best player ever, a rotten-nosed cokehead who sent hookers to other teams to disrupt them the nights before games, and god only knows whatelse.

TO's perfect fit would be here in Dallas, IMHO. Combined with Bledsoe, Jones, MeShawn and Witten, we would be Super Bowl bound if we were to add a player of TO's calibur to this team right now. And if any coach TO could relate to and would beable to keep his antics in line, it's Bill. Not to mention he would be coming in and immediatly seeing what Bill does for a guy like MeShawn who 2 years ago was a butt-joke in the NFL after being suspended for a very TO-Like antic.

If you love TO soooooo much then root for Philly or whoever he decides he wants more money from this year....

....(quote)Moving on too, 50 was even more right on the comparison between Irvin and Owens. The same hand-basket to hell that made TO, made Irvin first, and he was ours....and we loved him, many faults and all


You say "we" like you went out and took a poll of every Cowboy fan in the country..... I for one was totally embarrassed about Irvin's off field antics. I was ridiculed every day because I was a COWBOYS fan. It wouldn't have hurt my feelings one bit if he had been cut.. I realize it would have hurt the team on the field...but, it probably should have been done.

 

[PaEagleHater]

Owens has more then a couple screws loose. I wouldn't even trade Cundiff for him...

 

[1fisher]

Owens has more then a couple screws loose. I wouldn't even trade Cundiff for him...

I wouldn't trade Rowdy for him... :laugh2:

there's no way Bill would put up with TO's crap......

 

[Yeagermeister]

It would be sweet justice if he was traded to the worst team in the league

 

[Kangaroo]

At least your honest enough to admit it. Most act like this guy is a serial killer. Irvin subject himself to league suspention with his drug use . That is the ultimate disrespect to the NFL, not to mention your teammates. Some people act like they never hated Key befroe he got here, but they cheer their *** off for him now. Just be real with yourself is all I ask. You are at least!

I was not in favor of getting Key I was worried he kill the locker room stated that when this all started. I did not like Key back then and I do not like him now.

Do I have to worry about him playing his arse off when he hits the field or blocking down field no. Do we worry about chemistry and keys mouth still yes.

Key is an arse and I still see him that way. I am not a Key fan never have been and never will be

 

[Kangaroo]

I guess you hate Emmitt for holding to then, right? Or is it different because he played for the Cowboys?

No because Emmitt did not have a contract when he held out !

Oh I guess you just opened mouth and inserted the biggest dam shoe you ever had.

If Walker and TO did not have a contract so be it.

Emmitt was not under contract and there was no FA so guess what two different situations and nothing to do with each other.

Guys that get franchised but do not sign the agreement and hold out are fine they do not have a legal binding contract and have not come to terms with each other.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

No because Emmitt did not have a contract when he held out !

Oh I guess you just opened mouth and inserted the biggest dam shoe you ever had.

If Walker and TO did not have a contract so be it.

Emmitt was not under contract and there was no FA so guess what two different situations and nothing to do with each other.

Guys that get franchised but do not sign the agreement and hold out are fine they do not have a legal binding contract and have not come to terms with each other.

I think Roo brings up a valid point here. FA and cap have changed everything. You really can't look at contracts or even player's situations from the early 90s and equate them to modern contractual situations. Completely different set of rules.

I would say that in looking at TO's sito and conversly, Walkers situation, I think there night and day. In TO, I see a guy looking for a buck, above all else. TO has a very nice contract in place right now. It is a contract that he pushed for. His situation in Philly is completely of his own doing. Walker, on the other hand, is asking to be paid for the job he's doing. I really have no problem with this and to be honest, I'm not sure why GB would not facilitate this. I do not know what Walkers salary expectations are but I know that 500K is well below what he is worth. I think there's something to playing out your contract and I really applaud players who take this approach but in this day and age, the squeaky wheel analogy really does come into play. At this point, Walker is within his rights to hold out. The team is within there rights to fine him. To me, the biggest thing here is that I don't see the reasoning behind why GB would do this. I see no advantage in doing so. Just seems obvious that it would be in there best interest to get a deal worked out now.

 

[Bizwah]

No because Emmitt did not have a contract when he held out !

Oh I guess you just opened mouth and inserted the biggest dam shoe you ever had.

If Walker and TO did not have a contract so be it.

Emmitt was not under contract and there was no FA so guess what two different situations and nothing to do with each other.

Guys that get franchised but do not sign the agreement and hold out are fine they do not have a legal binding contract and have not come to terms with each other.

I think you're mistaken..........Emmitt was under contract. He held out. I think he was in the last year of his rookie deal.

Maybe I'm mistaken. But I could've sworn he was in the last year of his first contract.......

 

[WoodysGirl]

Updated: July 22, 2005, 12:11 PM ET

Despite heated rhetoric, T.O. not going anywhere

Terrell Owens is hinting that he would agree to a trade because of a contract dispute with the Philadelphia Eagles, although his first choice is to still get a new deal from the NFC champions.

Drew Rosenhaus, Owens' agent said Friday he just wants a fair-market deal for Owens.

"We hope it's something we can work out with the Philadelphia Eagles," Rosenhaus told The Associated Press, adding he had talked recently with the Eagles. "If it's something we can work out with another team, that is not something we are opposed to."

He acknowledged that the Eagles have told him they aren't interested in trading the receiver.

"We have not received permission to seek a trade," Rosenhaus said.

Responding to comments made by Eagles president Joe Banner in Thursday's Philadelphia Daily News that Owens and Rosenhaus "don't think in commonsense terms," Owens told Comcast SportsNet Southeast in Atlanta that the Eagles could just trade him.

Banner was on vacation and unavailable for comment Friday.

"If he feels that way, then get rid of me," Owens said Thursday. "He wants to talk about Drew and I. If we're problems, then... trade me, release me. And we can just part ways like adults.

"What it all boils down to is I'm going to do what's best for my family. I don't even have to play for the Eagles, to be honest. I can go play with any other team and still be productive."

Owens, who helped the Eagles reach the Super Bowl in his first season in Philadelphia after eight years with San Francisco, is asking for a new contract a year into a seven-year deal worth almost $49 million.

Rosenhaus said earlier this week that Owens was "50-50" about reporting to training camp and no decision would be made until the start of camp.

Veterans are scheduled to report to Eagles camp on Aug. 1 at Lehigh University in Bethlehem, Pa.

The Eagles have said they won't redo Owens' contract.

Banner told the Daily News he hoped Owens would report on time.

"If we were dealing with somebody who was looking at this logically and was going to come to a commonsense conclusion, you'd say [he would report]," Banners said. "But you're dealing with two people here who, frankly, don't think in commonsense terms. Anything can happen. They're not going to necessarily do what makes sense."

Owens defied his doctor's advice by returning to the starting lineup against New England just 6½ weeks after ankle surgery, and was Philadelphia's best player on offense. He caught nine passes for 122 yards in the Eagles' 24-21 loss to the Patriots.

His outrageous personality, flashy touchdown celebrations and deep-ball ability made Owens an instant fan favorite in notoriously-fickle Philadelphia. Public sentiment has turned against him, though, with fans flooding talk radio that he's gotten greedy and that the Eagles could win a Super Bowl without him.

Rosenhaus defended his client, saying fans should not have any ill-will toward Owens because the renegotiation process was strictly a business decision.

"This is something that is of great urgency and importance to Terrell," he said. "He hasn't looked to offend anybody. The last faction he want to offend is the Philadelphia Eagles fans. This is not personal.

"I'm confident once we get this resolved, he will go back to the status he previously enjoyed."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2114034

 

[scottsp]

I happen to agree with Gosselin's analysis on how the T.O situation will shake down. He will do one of two things:

Play for the Eagles.
Sit.

I seriously doubt Philly will oblige Owens by moving him. And they will not renegotiate his current deal.

 

[scottsp]

"If he feels that way, then get rid of me," Owens said Thursday. "He wants to talk about Drew and I. If we're problems, then... trade me, release me. And we can just part ways like adults.

Sorry, I have to chuckle when I read quotes like this from a guy like Terrell Owens.

 

[50cent]

You're wrong on several counts here when you make the absolute statements that everyone would do this and no one can say that they would do that...

First I would hate TO regardless of what uniform he wears and that includes the Cowboys uniform. I never liked Deion Sanders even as a Cowboy and I have far more animosity toward TO than I ever did toward Deion. I might like the plays that he might make but I would hate him as a player and no matter how many plays he made for us that would NOT change.

Second I CAN say that I would do things differently if I were in his shoes. I can definitely say that I would not turn around and try to hold up the team that I had just signed a $42 mil contract with. It is unscrupulous and unethical; I was raised in the Old School tradition where a man’s word is his bond and I can say unequivocally that I would not break a brand new contract.

I don't hate him for speaking the truth; I’ve yet to hear him do that. I hate him for being the biggest pain in the *** crybaby in professional sports. I hate him for setting a bad example for the youth that look up to him. I hate him for his absolute lack of character and I would be livid if the Cowboys signed him. TO needs to remember that Andre Rison was as talented as TO is and look how he ended up because he was such a screwball troublemaker. TO could end up in the same boat as Rison...out of the game prematurely and trying to make a comeback up in Canada. And I'd say GOOD RIDDANCE.

If the shoe don't fit stay the hell out of the conversation. And just bet you wished ever INT or punt return was taken off the scoreboard. Or the QB called do over. Get real, you cheered for Deoin.

 

[50cent]

No because Emmitt did not have a contract when he held out !

Oh I guess you just opened mouth and inserted the biggest dam shoe you ever had.

If Walker and TO did not have a contract so be it.

Emmitt was not under contract and there was no FA so guess what two different situations and nothing to do with each other.

Guys that get franchised but do not sign the agreement and hold out are fine they do not have a legal binding contract and have not come to terms with each other.

As for this whole Emmitt stuff, he was in the last year of his contract coming off a SB. The cowboys started off 0-2, when JJ decided to come off his *** to get the deal done. If Emmitt had been a FA, ever team and there mother would have been trying to sign him. Get you facts straight, before you inject your 2 cents in our convo, which is still 48 cents short of being welcome.

 

[50cent]

If you love TO soooooo much then root for Philly or whoever he decides he wants more money from this year....

....(quote)Moving on too, 50 was even more right on the comparison between Irvin and Owens. The same hand-basket to hell that made TO, made Irvin first, and he was ours....and we loved him, many faults and all


You say "we" like you went out and took a poll of every Cowboy fan in the country..... I for one was totally embarrassed about Irvin's off field antics. I was ridiculed every day because I was a COWBOYS fan. It wouldn't have hurt my feelings one bit if he had been cut.. I realize it would have hurt the team on the field...but, it probably should have been done.

Yet you still cheered for him after each catch and each game. Did you scream, get rid of that ingrate? Nope. Get real, dude your just kidding yourself !

 

[50cent]

I think you're mistaken..........Emmitt was under contract. He held out. I think he was in the last year of his rookie deal.

Maybe I'm mistaken. But I could've sworn he was in the last year of his first contract.......

Your right, he just has an agenda! You know the, "I'm the most upstanding moral Cowboy fan, that won't tolerate any antics. Except if it is a Cowboy player. He get a pass, because its cool then."

Just like he sat in the closet and cheered for Irvin, Emmitt, Lett, Williams, and Newton, so nobody could see his joy when the Cowboys won games and SB. He is fake as they come.

We had the most politcally incorrect and unmoral team in the 90's and I bet my life he still rubs it other fans face that we got 3out of 4 SBs. Needless to say with these same weed and coke heads that can't be compared to TO. Take about double standards.

 

[50cent]

Before the 1993 season, Smith was again a holdout. An $8-million difference with management kept him away from the team for 64 days. Dallas' 0-2 start led owner Jerry Jones to sign Smith to a four-year, $13.6-million contract, which, at the time, made him the highest-paid running back in NFL history.


The Cowboys won 11 of their next 13 games and needed a victory over the New York Giants in the regular-season finale to gain home-field advantage and a bye in the playoffs. Smith separated his right shoulder in the second quarter, but returned in the second half. He finished with 229 total yards (168 rushing and 61 receiving). In overtime, he led Dallas down the field to a 16-13 victory.

This from ESPN Classic.

Get your facts rights little boy!