Packers/Eagles Game

yimyammer said:
can anyone explain the logic behind a team being able to advance a muffed punt and never lose possesion even if the returner fumbles it later on in the return?
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Not sure. Give an example....
 
Interesting that Philly's Point Differential is +81. Cowboys at +49. Today's blowout, looks like we will be closing the gap. lol.
 
links18 said:
Not sure. Give an example....
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In 2010 Detroit punted it to the Cowboys, a Lion touched the ball, Bryan McCann of the Cowboys picked it up and ran it 97 yards for a TD for Dallas. If McCann fumbled it at the 20 yard line and Detroit recovered it would still be Dallas ball.
 
links18 said:
Not sure. Give an example....
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The play got called back but in the Cards game, they punted and tried to down it and a guy threw it back on the field before entering the end zone

Apparently, at that point the receiving team can grab the ball and advance it and never lose possession of the ball regardless.

One of our players did this a few years ago and it was a really smart, heads up play

Its still seems ridiculous to give the receiving team a no risk play
 
links18 said:
Not sure. Give an example....
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The rule (I believe) is that if the punting team touches the ball first a returner can advance the ball without fear of turning the ball back over via a fumble. This is why you sometimes see a return man (after punt team touches the ball) take a chance and field the punt even if it's taking a funny hop or rolling around
 
joseephuss said:
In 2010 Detroit punted it to the Cowboys, a Lion touched the ball, Bryan McCann of the Cowboys picked it up and ran it 97 yards for a TD for Dallas. If McCann fumbled it at the 20 yard line and Detroit recovered it would still be Dallas ball.
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Where would they spot it?
 
bracey said:
I have never seen it called that way on the field with a player falling back into the endzone.
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I would have called it a touchback. But their explanation is acceptable IF he reestablished himself on the field of play.
 
joseephuss said:
In 2010 Detroit punted it to the Cowboys, a Lion touched the ball, Bryan McCann of the Cowboys picked it up and ran it 97 yards for a TD for Dallas. If McCann fumbled it at the 20 yard line and Detroit recovered it would still be Dallas ball.
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No that's muffed punt. If you run the ball back then that's an ordinary fumble for the recoverying team.
 
jobberone said:
Not even close. It's fair and reasonable to wonder why someone thinks they can make that kind of prediction. You have no way to know the Cowboys would be losing that badly despite your protests. It may be reasonable to think they would be favored on their turf and I'd bet Vegas would give us some points. Your prediction is on the edge of probabilities.
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Could you please spare me the sensitive fan thing of no way of knowing?

It is my opinion that the Cowboys would have gotten smoked playing in Green Bay today.

Vegas would have given the Cowboys 7 plus points. The Packers would have covered.
 
jobberone said:
No that's muffed punt. If you run the ball back then that's an ordinary fumble for the recoverying team.
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In the example I cited, the Lions were the team punting the ball and the first team to touch it. Dallas, the receiving team then picked up the ball and returned it. In that case they scored a TD. If they had fumbled they would have maintained possession. It would not have been treated as an ordinary fumble.

A muffed punt is the receiving team muffing the ball obviously. Anyone can recover it at that point since it is treated as a fumble. Harris had one of those earlier this season.
 
yimyammer said:
can anyone explain the logic behind a team being able to advance a muffed punt and never lose possesion even if the returner fumbles it later on in the return?
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It's not on a punt that is muffed by the receiving team, it's on a punt that is touched by the kicking team but not declared dead -- the receiving team can return it and, no matter what happens after that, can always take the ball where the kicking team touched it. The reason is because it is considered "illegal touching" by the kicking team. If the receiving team doesn't like the result of the return (say, a fumble back to the kicking team), it can simply accept the "penalty" and take the ball where the illegal touching occurred.
 
Me and my dad and cracking the brews and cranking up the radio for their post-game show. Been in tears for the last thirty minutes. Awesome night
 
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