Parcells and the future

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peplaw06 said:
My point was there aren't too many coaches who have coached dynasties... A dynasty alone doesn't mean the coach is great. Coaches can be great without coaching dynasties.

Don Shula blows.
 

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hogwild said:
why do you even bother posting ,you know absolutely nothing
worth posting.
I knew more about football way back when i was 2 than you know now.
Just because somebody doesn't believe in the almighty BP , He must
be clueless. Your ignorant

You know I could say the same thing about you.

Youre trying to say that the players such as Johnson, Vrabel, Vinatierri, McGinesta dn others ahd nothing to do with Parcells that they magically were in hibernation until BB came along. That is so weak its not funny.

Another thing enough with the whole Jersey conman thing. its bad enough that you have to let others think for you but Galloway of all people?
 

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My point is BB has made NE in his image, not BP.
He has long since broke that bond of being a "student of BP"
He has far exceeded that of BP.
He has won his way, he has changed, adapted in ways BP wouldn't (IMO)
He is his on genius on defense..very innovative, cutting edge (unlike BP)
He was lucky with TB but that's part of it.
He was smart enough to get CW to run his O....BP is not smart enough to
get someone close to that here yet...
BB doesn't want to be linked forever with BP, I think that motivates
him to put even more separation between the two.


BP took NE to the SB back when the AFC sucked.
They were simply the best of a terrible ,horrible ,weak conference.
hence the outcome.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins said:
You know I could say the same thing about you.

Youre trying to say that the players such as Johnson, Vrabel, Vinatierri, McGinesta dn others ahd nothing to do with Parcells that they magically were in hibernation until BB came along. That is so weak its not funny.

Another thing enough with the whole Jersey conman thing. its bad enough that you have to let others think for you but Galloway of all people?
You could say it but you would be wrong.
I think that is the only thing me and Galloway think alike about.
He has robbed JJ so far (.500) and still got a raise?
That's a conman! IMO
 

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hogwild said:
You could say it but you would be wrong.
I think that is the only thing me and Galloway think alike about.
He has robbed JJ so far (.500) and still got a raise?
That's a conman! IMO

2 out of 3 winning seasons - something this team hadn't seen in a long time.

So much for your con....
 

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superpunk said:
2 out of 3 winning seasons - something this team hadn't seen in a long time.

So much for your con....
that's not good enough. Championships count
 

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hogwild said:
that's not good enough. Championships count

Ah...so Dan Marino is a Pittsburgh Con-Man.

Joe Gibbs is a con.

Marvin Lewis is a con.

Mike Holmgren is a con.

Marv Levy is a con.

Brian Billick is not a con.

Glad we got that established.
 

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superpunk said:
Ah...so Dan Marino is a Pittsburgh Con-Man.

Joe Gibbs is a con.

Marvin Lewis is a con.

Mike Holmgren is a con.

Marv Levy is a con.

Brian Billick is not a con.

Glad we got that established.
Is Dan Marino coaching at Pitt? Is he taking money that he's not worth?
Joe Gibbs is 1 of the best in the business all-times.
That actually pains me to say.
Brian B would be a good O-C that's all.
If you want to discuss BP stay on topic and you'll have more credibility.
 

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hogwild said:
Is Dan Marino coaching at Pitt? Is he taking money that he's not worth?

Is Parcells coaching in New Jersey?

I'm sorry, I didn't realize your "con-man" crap only applied to head coaches, and not players who stole money because, after all, "championships count."

Joe Gibbs is 1 of the best in the business all-times.

Yet in his current tenure, he has the same amount of "championships" as Parcells. Your words, not mine.

Brian B would be a good O-C that's all.

But he has a championship with his current team. After all, that is what "counts."

If you want to discuss BP stay on topic and you'll have more credibility.

If you want to refute points, try to remember what you said in the first place.

that's not good enough. Championships count

I used your criteria. That is all.
 

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superpunk said:
Is Parcells coaching in New Jersey?

I'm sorry, I didn't realize your "con-man" crap only applied to head coaches, and not players who stole money because, after all, "championships count."



Yet in his current tenure, he has the same amount of "championships" as Parcells. Your words, not mine.



But he has a championship with his current team. After all, that is what "counts."



If you want to refute points, try to remember what you said in the first place.

that's not good enough. Championships count

I used your criteria. That is all.
You are clueless if you don't realize BP will always be from NJ.
Championships are what count for the Dallas Cowboys.
You really think i give a damn about Piit, Wash., Balt., ectect
If you didn't realize this is a cowboys forum. That is who I care about.
Championships count in big D. We expect more than 9-7, but you
probably are happy sitting out the playoffs, as long as BP is the coach.:confused:
We will win another Championship after BP leaves. But not until, is my prediction.
TRY alittle harder to stay on topic
 

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hogwild said:
You are clueless if you don't realize BP will always be from NJ.

You are clueless if you don't see that Marino will always be from Pittsburgh - or did that joke not sink in yet?

Championships are what count for the Dallas Cowboys.
You really think i give a damn about Piit, Wash., Balt., ectect

Oh, so your bogus criteria changes for other coaches. Or it changes when it's been shown to be completely stupid. Some rock solid standards you have there. Keep dancing.

BTW, Parcells is not my favorite coach in the league. Fortunately, I keep some objectivity in my posts.
 

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You are clueless if you don't realize BP will always be from NJ.

Couldn't he renounce his citizenship or something? Would that help?

People from Arkansas must really still be stuck on that "Yankee" thing still.
 

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That Patriots team is built on coaching, Tom Brady, and Richard Seymour. Throw in some healthy, smart linebackers, smart WR's, and a running back who doesn't fumble and you have a Superbowl Champion. That's how good Belichek, Brady, and Seymour are.
 

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wow I go to sleep and to work and this turned into quite the thread...

if belicheck was this super coach why did he fail in cleveland?

where has big bill failed?
has he ever been fired from a head coaching job?
wonder if he ever even was nervous it might happen

even better has a reporter ever asked belicheck how much he thinks parcells helped him
 

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superpunk said:
You are clueless if you don't see that Marino will always be from Pittsburgh - or did that joke not sink in yet?



Oh, so your bogus criteria changes for other coaches. Or it changes when it's been shown to be completely stupid. Some rock solid standards you have there. Keep dancing.

BTW, Parcells is not my favorite coach in the league. Fortunately, I keep some objectivity in my posts.
You need to go to the board of those other teams ,since you care about
them. You brought them up not me,I talk /care about the Dallas Cowboys
nothing changed there ....when you can't win or make a good point
you try to twist **** around to make you look smart, but it ain't working
you look foolish
 

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hogwild said:
You need to go to the board of those other teams ,since you care about
them. You brought them up not me,I talk /care about the Dallas Cowboys
nothing changed there ....when you can't win or make a good point
you try to twist **** around to make you look smart, but it ain't working
you look foolish

I just don't see the need for double standards. You were the one creaming about Bellichick, not me. Which is odd, because you only talk / care about the Dallas Cowboys. I'm too foolish to understand, I suppose.
 

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superpunk said:
I just don't see the need for double standards. You were the one creaming about Bellichick, not me. Which is odd, because you only talk / care about the Dallas Cowboys. I'm too foolish to understand, I suppose.
I guess you would've had to read the whole thread.
People giving BP credit for building NE dynasty.
 

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hogwild said:
I guess you would've had to read the whole thread.
People giving BP credit for building NE dynasty.

But you only talk / care about the Cowboys, right? So BB should have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Unless you were using BB comparatively (you were) in which case shouldn't your comparisons be opened up to all head coaches?

I also saw no mention of BB's failures in Cleveland, and his lack of championships without Crennel/Weis. Because, after all, "Championships count", right?
 

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superpunk said:
But you only talk / care about the Cowboys, right? So BB should have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

Unless you were using BB comparatively (you were) in which case shouldn't your comparisons be opened up to all head coaches?

I also saw no mention of BB's failures in Cleveland, and his lack of championships without Crennel/Weis. Because, after all, "Championships count", right?
your childish
 
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