Parcells needs to go

[aikemirv]

I know the scheme is blessed by BP but I truly believe that our staff is poor. Either that or we just have some of the stupidest players in the league.

I mean, who is going to block the CB on the goal line when Witten blocks down?

Who is supposed to take the TE when our all out blitz fails - Burnett right?

Are our players that stupid?

 

[Da Hammer]

Well, I'm starting to feel warm and fuzzy.

I've had a lot of lonely moments while criticizing Parcells for the past three years. :

And as I always say, I truly admired the guy when he was in NY...both with the Giants and Jets.

While we had coaches like Switzer, and Gailey and Campo I was always pining for Parcells.

But this isn't the same guy.

I gave up on him three years ago.

:laugh2: Your not lonely anymore although i have been criticizing Parcells since last season but yea he just aint that HOF Coach anymore. He's an ok coach but nothing special...

 

[Concord]

"Worst pick in Cowboys history." = Most hyperbole in board history.

Really. There's a very long and distinguished list to go through before we get to Fasano.

 

[MetalHead]

Its his outdated outlook of the game.
He's building P-51 Mustangs,while the new breed of winning coaches are working on B-117 stealth technology.
What worked for him back in the day doesn't cut it anymore unless you have a freak LB who wore #56.
We don't have that.Not even close.
What we have is a bunch of slow DLs,one decent pass rusher and a mess of a secondary.
I wonder how Jerry feels after spending all that money on the D,all those draft picks and seeing players he could have had thriving elsewhere.
Merriman:15 sacks in 11 games.Yes,he is one dimensional,but I take a one dimensional 15 sack player ANY day.
Castillo:He is better than Britney Spears,but then again,who isn't?
Others who could have been Cowboysevin Hester(Skyler was indeed, Green),Marcus McNeil,Stephen Jackson(that should had never happened).

 

[Juke99]

:laugh2: Your not lonely anymore although i have been criticizing Parcells since last season but yea he just aint that HOF Coach anymore. He's an ok coach but nothing special...

Ya know, I'm wondering if his teams run out of gas at the end of each season because he does.

This is now officially a pattern.

And yep, he's not the same coach. That doesn't take away from what he accomplished in the past. But he's simply not the same guy anymore.

 

[Da Hammer]

Ya know, I'm wondering if his teams run out of gas at the end of each season because he does.

This is now officially a pattern.

And yep, he's not the same coach. That doesn't take away from what he accomplished in the past. But he's simply not the same guy anymore.

I do think that the team has run out of gas because obviously the guy is old school and believes in practicing his players hard every day and you can tell the team has lost a step. Jones looks slow, Barber looked slow yesterday, Glenn who usually doesnt drop many passes dropped 2 yesterday and appeared to have a hard time getting open. Our D-Line has to be worn down going 3 on 5 every single game although even if they were fresh they would suck anyways at getting a pass rush. Even Newman got beat yesterday and Henry looked slower than my grandma out there especially on the INT. Between practice and the games yes the team is getting worn down every year by December even in 03 when we made the playoffs. Doesnt help also that the scheme they are put in makes them have to work twice as hard to succeed.

 

[Dallas4ever]

I might as well continue the Parcell's pile on. I haven't posted much lately but after what I saw Monday, I must rant. I agree with just about every post in this thread. Xmas evening confirmed what I really didn't want to accept just yet. Parcells tenure here has been a failure.....period. Jerry would've fired anyone else by now. He simply hasn't gotten it done.

Despite what Parcells seems to think of anyone who is not in his football knowledge league. A number of us here have seen championship football teams before.....five to be exact. The 2006 Cowboys are not a championship football team. He's brought all of the groceries but can't fix a decent meal with them. It's time to close this chapter and move on to the next.


Bye bye Big Bill.......thanks for nothing!

 

[Dallas4ever]

Don't get me to preaching.

What about the draft? Parcells loves to show the world how smart he is by getting some scrubb out of plains peru and turning him into an all star, but Newsflash Parcells, you can't teach talent.

I've already gone over how he passed on a pretty good runner to pick up extra picks, and how he had the best passrusher sitting right in front of him, but decided to show the world (just like the texans did last year by passing on Bush/Young/Cutler/Leinart) show the world and the football nation that he was smarter.

You have to draft the best player at that position, period. Fasano will go down as one of the worst picks in Cowboys history. Did anyone in the scouting department know that Skyler Green was slow? How could they not know this?

Parcells waited far to long to employ his 3-4, waiting until the 3rd year to make the move, had Parcells fired Zimmerman and hired a 3-4 coach and traded those players back when he first got here, that were not 3-4 types, we'd be way ahead. And just like Parcells didn't let Payton run his offense, he's not letting Zimmer run his, even though I wouldn't let Zimmer run his either.

Parcells, please retire and go back to Jersey and allow someone with creativeness and a pair of (ba**s) coach this team. Jerry, you did the right thing by letting Parcells come here, now go get a younger more energetic, aggressive coach in here, and let him bring in his groceries also.
"munchies out", so is Clove..

Amen...........Parcells apparently watches too much pimp my ride. Bringing in scrubs and hoping to pimp them into all pros.

 

[jcblanco22]

Xmas evening confirmed what I really didn't want to accept just yet. Parcells tenure here has been a failure.....period. Jerry would've fired anyone else by now. He simply hasn't gotten it done.

Gailey got the ax for doing better than this, and only after 2 seasons and with a ton of injuries at WR during his second and last season. Better yet, he was given the pink slip for supposedly being too stubborn to relinquish playcalling to an offensive coordinator. There is obviously a different standard for Parcells, who apparently has been even more detrimentally stubborn in his defensive philosophy, and the reasons to justify this different standard are starting to run out.

 

[EastDallasCowboy]

I'm still not jumping on the fire parcells bandwagon.

I am though, officially, joining the anti-Zimmer movement. I held out and gave him credit for that nice defense a few years back....but he's used all his chits in my mind. The guy apparently has nothing. All those high draft picks and all that money....and thats what you get out of this defense? Seriously?

Now it may turn out that it's Parcells and not Zimmer, but I'd be happy axing Zimmer....bringing in a new DC....and giving Parcells one more year with the new guy.

Then again, if Parcells turns around and demands Owens is released.....that's going to push me closer to the tipping point.

 

[Da Hammer]

I'm still not jumping on the fire parcells bandwagon.

I am though, officially, joining the anti-Zimmer movement. I held out and gave him credit for that nice defense a few years back....but he's used all his chits in my mind. The guy apparently has nothing. All those high draft picks and all that money....and thats what you get out of this defense? Seriously?

Now it may turn out that it's Parcells and not Zimmer, but I'd be happy axing Zimmer....bringing in a new DC....and giving Parcells one more year with the new guy.

Then again, if Parcells turns around and demands Owens is released.....that's going to push me closer to the tipping point.

You gotta blame Parcells for keeping a D-Coordinator that never had coached the 3-4. Thats just plain idiotic especially when he knew that he eventually he was gonna switch from the 4-3 to the 3-4

 

[BigDPlayer]

You gotta blame Parcells for keeping a D-Coordinator that never had coached the 3-4. Thats just plain idiotic especially when he knew that he eventually he was gonna switch from the 4-3 to the 3-4

I agree, Parcells did keep him here too long. But while that may be true, it doesn't necessarily mean you fire Parcells for being loyal.

Parcells has resurrected this franchise from ABYSSMAL to a very talented playoff caliber team. Remember, it was not three weeks ago that Dallas was everybodies top NFC team. Remember? Without Parcells, that doesn't happen.

I say, fire Zimmer and keep the man that is putting Dallas back on top: Bill Parcells.

 

[EastDallasCowboy]

You gotta blame Parcells for keeping a D-Coordinator that never had coached the 3-4. Thats just plain idiotic especially when he knew that he eventually he was gonna switch from the 4-3 to the 3-4

Zimmer had been good previously, and Parcells decided to reward that loyalty and give Zimmer a chance to do it. It's obvious now that he cannot, but I don't blame Parcells for giving one of his loyal coaches a chance at the new system.

Every report I read commented on how feverishly Zimmer worked to learn the nuances of the 3-4 and equip himself to be successful with it. Now it turns out he simply isn't good with a 3-4, but it's not for a lack of trying.

That's all fine to me. Lesson learned, and now it's time to cut bait and re-cast for a new DC with more experience and knowledge of the 3-4.

Now if Parcells decideor hire some other idiot DC, well, then the blame will lie at the feet of BP for me.

 

[BigDPlayer]

I totally agree EDC. If he continues to employ Zimmer after this season, well, fool me once. . ..

 

[MONT17]

One could make a strong case that he's been a better GM than coach.

Better GM than Coach? I guess it was the Coach who signed Vanderjack, Boiman, Fabini, Rivera, Kosier, "Dat Dude" and VINNY!!!

This is the same coach who couldnt find playing time for Peerless Price because he wanted to play Terrance Copper and not keep either around the next season... did the same with Pettiti!

this is the same GM that cut his starting QB because he did an ESPN interview 1 week into TC.

this is the same GM that went into a season without a backup RB!!!

the same GM that traded away draft picks for Fujita and Skyler Green...

the same GM that drafted JACOB ROGERS, PETERMAN and AL Johnson with day 1 picks!


the same GM that didnt draft TONY ROMO!


I gave BP props for making the playoffs but its the NFC... a 7-9 team may make the playoffs!


Noone said BP job was to wina SB... his job was to change the outlook on the Cowboys coaching job!!!


He did that!!!

 

[Haley94]

Zimmer's nature is a read and react, bend but don't break style of coaching. That style up shows in both the 3-4 and 4-3 defenses he has coached. His blitzes all look the same and never seem to get there. They are poorly disguised and poorly coached. He coaches the aggression out of the players. We all know this, right?

It's important to note that the "flex defense" was a read and react defense as well. Landry wanted his defense to be under control and not be overly aggressive. The difference is that everyone bought in to the defense and he had some great, tough players who were nasty and mean spirited on the football field.

It's obvious to me that the players have tuned out both Zimmer and Parcells and are doing their own thing. They all seem be falling asleep in the meetings. They don't believe in the scheme right now.

 

[Da Hammer]

Zimmer had been good previously, and Parcells decided to reward that loyalty and give Zimmer a chance to do it. It's obvious now that he cannot, but I don't blame Parcells for giving one of his loyal coaches a chance at the new system.

Every report I read commented on how feverishly Zimmer worked to learn the nuances of the 3-4 and equip himself to be successful with it. Now it turns out he simply isn't good with a 3-4, but it's not for a lack of trying.

That's all fine to me. Lesson learned, and now it's time to cut bait and re-cast for a new DC with more experience and knowledge of the 3-4.

Now if Parcells decideor hire some other idiot DC, well, then the blame will lie at the feet of BP for me.

I'm not saying Zimmer isnt trying because yea like you i have heard and dont doubt that Zimmer did everything he can to run a succesful 3-4 D but his defenses just arent build to attack or to be creative and that is something that all succesfull 3-4 Defenses in recent years have shown to be. With Zimmer its pretty much blitz everyone or just send 3 or 4, thats just pathetic. And not shockingly the Offense picks it up and no one gets close at the QB like Garcia yesterday

 

[kartr]

I know this a free country...and I appreciate that everyone is entitled to their own opinion...but if I were king for a day...I WOULD BAN ANYONE that continues to defend the 2nd round pick used on Anthony Fasano. I have been banging this drum for a long time now. What is he? With a 2nd round pick at that position you better be top shelf at SOMETHING. He is not, never was, and NEVER will be.

I have no problems with the Ware over Merriman. I did have a slight problem passing over Kevin Jones and Stephen Jackson, but I understand WHY we did it. But passing over Marcus McNeil....or just drafting Fasano in the 2nd round in general....that move makes my skin crawl

What about Hatcher in the 3rd? A small school project on day one. Campo would have been crucified for that one. And Bobby Carpenter in the first when we were over-stocked with linebackers. As far as I'm concerned, all of Parcells drafts have been bad, including 2003.

 

[kartr]

Well, I'm starting to feel warm and fuzzy.

I've had a lot of lonely moments while criticizing Parcells for the past three years. :

And as I always say, I truly admired the guy when he was in NY...both with the Giants and Jets.

While we had coaches like Switzer, and Gailey and Campo I was always pining for Parcells.

But this isn't the same guy.

I gave up on him three years ago.

I gave up on him after 2003. We've had only 2 decent picks(Julius Jones and Ware) since then. Even though Ware was the wrong player to take.

 

[kartr]

To be fair, during the Campo years, we were in salary cap jail, and didn't have a #1 pick in two of the years he was here. Still I agree, he wasn't HC material.

Parcells has no excuse for this team to play like it has on defense. I still believe he has laid a good foundation for this team. I don't think we need to tear the whole thing down. We just need a change.

I do. You don't need the 3-4 to have a good pass rush, you need pass rushing DT's. Chicago's defense was ranked 22nd in 2003 and the Chargers was ranked 31st. Now they've both jumped over us defensively in just 3 years. The Chargers secondary isn't as good as ours, yet their defense is one of the most feared in the NFL. The reasons. Pass rushing DT's. We need to get David Patterson from Ohio ST, Jay Alford of Penn State, and Derek Landry of Notre Dame and scrap the 3-4. And while we're at it throw a ton of money at Jim Tressell and have him draft Troy Smith. What do all of these guys have in common, they're play-makers.