Parcells needs to put up or shutup/leave

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MONT17 said:
Im sorry but Holmgren was aposition coach when Parcells was winning SBs... Parcells should never be compared to Holmgren!!!

Actually Parcells is 2-1 in the superbowl and Holgren is 1-2 (the win came against Parcells ironically).......but in the end The Answer still believes that Parcells is by far the better coach.

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Dont worry about what Parcells says about Henson.... I'm sure Bill will give hima good reference if he wanted to get a job at Burger King or the VP of SALES some where!
 

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TheSkaven said:
This is crazy, am I the only one who remembers the string of coaches that we had sitting in Tom Landry's chair between Jimmy Johnson and Bill Parcells? Take a glance around the league and look at what's out there.

Yeah, Bill hasn't delivered the results that we all expected. But the man can flat out coach. You are underestimating the dirth of talent that we had on this team when he took over in 2003. He willed that team to victory, with Quincy Carter at QB and Troy Hambrick at RB, to a 10-6 record.

Now, is Bill a little too conservative sometimes? Does he sometimes rely on veterans when he could be grooming young talent? Yes on both counts. But those are far from fatal flaws.

Let's keep it real, Bill Parcells is a hall of fame coach and a great teacher. He demands hard work, discipline and football fundamentals. He's the right coach for this football team, and it will be a sad day when he decides to step down.

I agree. We go from 5-11 to having the best odds (5-2) to win the superbowl.

It's gonna be just as hard to replace BP as it was to replace Jimmy Johnson.


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BP needs to deliver here, this year period. The guy who chose to bench young Phil Simms in favor of Scott Brunner is far from infallible when it comes to QB evaluation and development.

He's run off Leroi Glover, Dexter Coakley and others and doesn't seem to know when one of his old Parcells guys is finished, Detrick Ward, Richie Anderson, Vinnie T and others.... come on down..

I Hope I'm not too late, I picked up on this thread yesterday. Well I'm sure some of you weren't chomping at the bit waiting for a PT response. Nevertheless ...

I'm feeling your concern. I remember when the Eagles had Ray Rhodes, and Buddy Ryan ..I couldn't understand some of the decisions they were making throughout the years. But then, I wasn't a coach in the NFL. Just for a moment, if we empathize with a coach of Bill Parcell's prominence, we'd understand better that sdome of the decisions they make are not decisions that they would make. In other words, some decisions come directly from a management level higher than the coach.

Coaches probably have at least 90 - 95% autonomy (that probably varies throughout the league). Coaches like Bill Parcells are like artists. They have visions, and the franchise is their craft. I further believe that while the ultimate, and utal goal of coaches and owners is to win a Superbowl, coaches like BP are after something more. Shaping, building and molding teams into a dynasty that can be realized for years. I think Tom Landry was such a coach that yielded a masterpiece.

Again, we'd all probably be very surprised to learn how many decisions coaches make/have no control over (other than an official protest for the record).

Hold your flames for one final point ...

Here's a rhetorical question many of us have in common. How many times have you been on the edge of your chair, your team is down by a field goal or TD, seconds remain and you have the ball in striking range ...STOP!

This is the exact point that I wanted to take you. Many of us (not all) are tense at that point. We want to look as the final moments drift away, but we dread the outcome. Now amplify and multiply those feelings by at least
7 - 8 times. For the average fan, once the game is over, with the exception of those who lost wagers ...it's over! For coaches, they have to figure out the breakdowns, and report to upper-management.

Now I could be wrong (I've been wrong before), but I don't think we appreciate the macro-perspective of coaching ...not to mention someone at the top of that profession -- Billl Parcells.
 

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Listen.......BP needed ALOT of grocries when he arrived....the cabinets are full now......let's get some popcorn and enjoy the show!
 

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I don't think it's time to run Parcells out on a rail,the
team would have been in the playoffs for sure with even a mediocre
kicker.Does it really matter who the QB of the future is?Henson,
Romo,i hope it's one of them,but i don't care which one.Actually,
Henson has actually fleeced the two biggest names in two different
sports,for millions! for that i salute him.LOL
 

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Awww, but I thought his dismissal of Henson's performance was only a "mindgame" to inspire him- isnt' that the line being used at the moment by the Henroids and his million boyfriends?

It's funny though that comparison of Henson and Simms. If you ask me that is exactly what you should be hoping for.. Tuna benched Simms, which was possibly the only route for Simms to ever become the kind of quarterback he needed to become to eventually get to the "big dance". Simms is nothing to brag about, his status most definately was questionable and he really is lucky to have ever gotten that chance to do what he did. It's not like he was Troy Aikman or even ever a young Carson Palmer, we're talking about Phil Simms.

And to take it one step further...Drew Henson isn't even remotely close to being the below-par Phil Simms. Not even in the same league. The only similarities between the two are is that they both lived in New York City for a time being there - or did DH even ever make it that far in the majors? I ask because he just seems to be a royal ____up every place he goes.
 

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The premise of this original thread I find correct. BP has rebuilt the franchise in his image and we are more talented than when he 1st got here.

Having said that, we've followed his formula and expect results. I have high hopes for this year, but its still up to BP to produce them. Of course he should be held accountable for this year.

I agree with posters here that say he's not a great X O's game day coach, so with our talent HE has assembled (and has done a great job, besides a few hiccups here and there) we should be a strong team this year.

If we don't succede this year, I would say thanks for the rebuilding, great job and here is your gold watch.
 

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NorthDalal said:
Now there is no room for a kind word about Henson's fine effort in NFLE.

BP needs to deliver here, this year period. The guy who chose to bench young Phil Simms in favor of Scott Brunner is far from infallible when it comes to QB evaluation and development.

He's run off Leroi Glover, Dexter Coakley and others and doesn't seem to know when one of his old Parcells guys is finished, Detrick Ward, Richie Anderson, Vinnie T and others.... come on down..

Having sat through the disgraceful loss to Pittsburgh(2004 Vinnie's botched handoff to Richie Anderson) and the going for it on 4th down in his own territory against the Giants in 2004, the 1st cut of Keith Davis, the thowing on the goal line 2 yds short of the endzone against Oakland, the mismangement of the Seattle and Washington (1st ) in 2005 and the purported backing of Jacob Rogers over the objection on many of our scouts, I'm glad Jerry will not cut one of the young QBs but .... now its time to shut up and produce a winner here.
9-7 and ending the season with a lay down vs. the Rams (another game I had the misfortune to witness in person) only suggests that there are coaching staff issues on this team.

I think it is Henson who needs to deliver. I'm pulling for Henson and have been but it is on Henson to make the most of the oppertunities he gets. This is the NFL not little league where every kid gets a chance to play at this level you make the most of what ever oppertunities you get and thus far Henson has struggled to convince the team that he is ready.
 

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I totally agree that we need some results this year; Bill has had 3 years to purge the Campo errors and bring in guys he likes. He finally has a real kicker, talent at every skill position, and a very strong defense. So it's time to rack up some wins.

But to even suggest that he should leave if Dallas has a lackluster year is crazy talk. CRAZY TALK, I tell ya.

This team FINALLY has a vision of what it wants to be; they draft with that vision, sign players with that vision, and gameplan with that vision.
That right there makes BP better than 24 other coaches out there. Start naming the coaches you'd rather have. Now cross of the names of guys who are already dead, like Lombardi. Short list, isn't it?

There are still so many factors that affect a season. If you think the roster stinks, or that the players are in bad shape, or that the play calling stinks, or that there is no team focus, then yes, it's BP's fault. But until the season starts, we can't evaluate any of those things, and it's very possible that Dallas goes 8-8 despite Bill excelling in all of those areas. Injuries, under-performing players, poor defensive coaching, etc., can all impact a season and have almost nothing to do with the HC's performance.

So if Dallas goes 8-8 and BP had a hand in it, sure, consider some other options. But the guy does so many things right, and there are so few guys as good, that demanding his resignation is nuts.
 

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NorthDalal said:
Now there is no room for a kind word about Henson's fine effort in NFLE.

BP needs to deliver here, this year period. The guy who chose to bench young Phil Simms in favor of Scott Brunner is far from infallible when it comes to QB evaluation and development.

He's run off Leroi Glover, Dexter Coakley and others and doesn't seem to know when one of his old Parcells guys is finished, Detrick Ward, Richie Anderson, Vinnie T and others.... come on down..

adrian murrell

Having sat through the disgraceful loss to Pittsburgh(2004 Vinnie's botched handoff to Richie Anderson) and the going for it on 4th down in his own territory against the Giants in 2004, the 1st cut of Keith Davis, the thowing on the goal line 2 yds short of the endzone against Oakland, the mismangement of the Seattle and Washington (1st ) in 2005 and the purported backing of Jacob Rogers over the objection on many of our scouts, I'm glad Jerry will not cut one of the young QBs but .... now its time to shut up and produce a winner here.
9-7 and ending the season with a lay down vs. the Rams (another game I had the misfortune to witness in person) only suggests that there are coaching staff issues on this team.

that was a laydown, that game pissed me off
 

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fiveandcounting said:
that was a laydown, that game pissed me off

Up until right before kickoff, we had every reason to believe that game could mean something.

So all week, you would expect us to have GAMEPLAN A: In case of playoffs and GAMEPLAN B: In case of meaningless game and give Romo enough reps either way to give you a chance to win the meaningless game but not take away from the meaningful reps Bledsoe should get?

Some of you people would make outstanding head coaches. You have this whole coaching thing figured out.
 
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