Parsons rhetoric

[TheMarathonContinues]

Parsons, like majority of players, enjoy spitting out poison with cliches of : " I want to be a lifelong ____________ player"
Parsons are easily be a life-long Dallas player but want to NEXT record breaking deal or he feels disrespected.
NFL will eventually be on a strike in one form or another. Can't have a team with 3-5 players soaking up 50% of the salary cap. Players really don't care about winning a Superbowl over wanting the contract(s) that sets them up for the rest of their life. They can buy their own ring(s), along with all the other "toys". Fans want the Superbowl, players want the money, while they can still play.

It’s not a players job to build a team. That’s a GMs job. A players job is to do what’s best for him and his family. Because if Cowboys won’t pay it someone else will. Tell your GM to build a proper team.

 

[Flamma]

Parsons, like majority of players, enjoy spitting out poison with cliches of : " I want to be a lifelong ____________ player"
Parsons are easily be a life-long Dallas player but want to NEXT record breaking deal or he feels disrespected.
NFL will eventually be on a strike in one form or another. Can't have a team with 3-5 players soaking up 50% of the salary cap. Players really don't care about winning a Superbowl over wanting the contract(s) that sets them up for the rest of their life. They can buy their own ring(s), along with all the other "toys". Fans want the Superbowl, players want the money, while they can still play.

Although I agree with most of this, I fall short at teams can't have 3-5 players making X amount. What's the reason they can't? No one is forcing the owners to pay it.

If anything, I think the owners just don't like spending that much money. The cap can only do so much in keeping salaries down. It's a cap for 1 year at a time. You're not required to be under the cap at any other time going forward. Just the current year.

 

[plasticman]

Parsons, like majority of players, enjoy spitting out poison with cliches of : " I want to be a lifelong ____________ player"
Parsons are easily be a life-long Dallas player but want to NEXT record breaking deal or he feels disrespected.
NFL will eventually be on a strike in one form or another. Can't have a team with 3-5 players soaking up 50% of the salary cap. Players really don't care about winning a Superbowl over wanting the contract(s) that sets them up for the rest of their life. They can buy their own ring(s), along with all the other "toys". Fans want the Superbowl, players want the money, while they can still play.

At this level of competition, the end goal is proving you are the best. You said it yourself, a player feels disrespected if he doesn't get paid a certain amount. To many players, their contracted salaries are a form of respect.

This is the reason money has the most importance to them. It's not the financial security or material possessions they can get. These are important, obviously, but the primary importance in contract to them is the perceived value of their skills. It is a measurement of their value to the team and the NFL.

This is why I say that the majority of them would play for free if the NFL wasn't a paying job so long as that applied to every player. In fact, it used to not pay. Then, when the job did pay, it was very little. Many players got summer jobs.

Hall of Fame DT Bob Lilly rented an apartment with two roommates when he was a rookie and he was a 1st round pick.

Players today would certainly play if there were no contracts. What are they going to do, skip the game they have always loved and excelled in just to go straight to their high school coaching job? Not all, of course, but I hope you get my point.

The majority of players absolutely mean it when they say they would trade in some contract money for a championship. The average NFL player is broke three years after leaving the NFL but championships stay with you for the rest of your life.

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[Coogiguy03]

Parsons, like majority of players, enjoy spitting out poison with cliches of : " I want to be a lifelong ____________ player"
Parsons are easily be a life-long Dallas player but want to NEXT record breaking deal or he feels disrespected.
NFL will eventually be on a strike in one form or another. Can't have a team with 3-5 players soaking up 50% of the salary cap. Players really don't care about winning a Superbowl over wanting the contract(s) that sets them up for the rest of their life. They can buy their own ring(s), along with all the other "toys". Fans want the Superbowl, players want the money, while they can still play.

Some of the players don't even want the rings they'll sell them

 

[slick325]

People want to be paid their value no matter how far you go back. But the more money that's in it, the more it becomes about money than winning. Do you think the NFL would have some of the best athletes in the country if it paid 50k a year?

If it paid 50k a year then that means it (the NFL) isn't signing billion dollar TV deals. Without all the revenue the League is making the CBA would be different.

So to answer your question directly, yes the best athletes in the country would still be playing in the NFL. They were playing in the 60's and 70's and had names like Jim Brown, Deacon Jones, Unitas, Starr, Staubach, etc. Those HOF guys all played prior to the League making massive revenue.

 

[SquidwardTentacles]

Tighten your jock Parsons.
Disrespect is life. Don't be a girl

 

[Creeper]

Parsons is not to blame for any of this. Remember, months ago Parsons made statements like he wanted to be a Cowboys for life, and he didn't need to be the highest paid player. He was practically begging Jerry to make a deal. I smart negotiator, or at least a competent one, would have jumped on those statements and made a deal right then and there. Micah Might have signed for $36 million which would be a bargain today. Now, Jerry will probably sign Micah for $41 million or more. No matter how you feel about Parsons, this is all just dumb stuff from Jerry.
As I have said before, look for signs of competence because that's what is going to get this team back in the Super Bowl. Jerry''s lack of competence in negotiating contracts is just a symptom of the overall incompetence problem.

 

[Kwyn]

Parsons, like majority of players, enjoy spitting out poison with cliches of : " I want to be a lifelong ____________ player"
Parsons are easily be a life-long Dallas player but want to NEXT record breaking deal or he feels disrespected.
NFL will eventually be on a strike in one form or another. Can't have a team with 3-5 players soaking up 50% of the salary cap. Players really don't care about winning a Superbowl over wanting the contract(s) that sets them up for the rest of their life. They can buy their own ring(s), along with all the other "toys". Fans want the Superbowl, players want the money, while they can still play.

This was painful.

If it’s a complaint about the salary cap, blame the owners. The players have a weak union that doesn’t do nearly as good a job as the ones in other major sports so what you see is the product of Goodell and the owners doing what they do.

 

[Flamma]

If it paid 50k a year then that means it (the NFL) isn't signing billion dollar TV deals. Without all the revenue the League is making the CBA would be different.

So to answer your question directly, yes the best athletes in the country would still be playing in the NFL. They were playing in the 60's and 70's and had names like Jim Brown, Deacon Jones, Unitas, Starr, Staubach, etc. Those HOF guys all played prior to the League making massive revenue.

There will always be someone playing regardless of pay, but not the best. Some might be great, but not necessarily the best throughout the league. It's the same for any job. The lower the pay, the quality of the employee drops overall. That doesn't mean there won't be some great employees. If you didn't love the game and want to win, you probably didn't play in the NFL in the 50s and 60.

 

[KingCorcoran]

Both are to blame. Try doing what Parson is doing at your own job. Tell them that you want to keep working at the job but unless they pay you the HIGHEST salary, at your position. If they don't then the company is to blame. You really want to stay there but will not be disrespected.

How many jobs can you complete your contract and still not be able to offer your services to another employer? In Parsons’ situation, he elected to be an NFL player. He did not choose the team he plays for. And while the rules are agreed to in a binding CBA, he didn’t play a role deciding on those rules. His recourse is to withhold his services to get what he believes he should be paid.

The owners are party to the CBA. They understand how it works. If any of what players must do to be paid what they believe they’re worth surprises Jerry Jones he needs to get out of the NFL. If Jerry were as good a GM as Parsons is a football player the Cowboys would be making deep playoff runs every season.

 

[charron]

If the owner doesn't care about winning then why should any player? It is not up to the players to ask for less, that is the GM's job in who and how much they extend players.

 

[Pokes12]

Both are to blame. Try doing what Parson is doing at your own job. Tell them that you want to keep working at the job but unless they pay you the HIGHEST salary, at your position. If they don't then the company is to blame. You really want to stay there but will not be disrespected.

How do you know what Parsons is saying? You do not. Stop posting things of which you have no knowledge. Or go back to the Iggles board. You are only trying to create controversy and discord. For what reason?

 

[TheDude]

Both are to blame. Try doing what Parson is doing at your own job. Tell them that you want to keep working at the job but unless they pay you the HIGHEST salary, at your position. If they don't then the company is to blame. You really want to stay there but will not be disrespected.

nope. everytime I changed jobs i got more money. once I got a counter over and above the bid away. the thing is here, salaries are public and the contracts finite. if owners choose not to sign early on the cheap, that is on the owners.

 

[conner01]

Parsons, like majority of players, enjoy spitting out poison with cliches of : " I want to be a lifelong ____________ player"
Parsons are easily be a life-long Dallas player but want to NEXT record breaking deal or he feels disrespected.
NFL will eventually be on a strike in one form or another. Can't have a team with 3-5 players soaking up 50% of the salary cap. Players really don't care about winning a Superbowl over wanting the contract(s) that sets them up for the rest of their life. They can buy their own ring(s), along with all the other "toys". Fans want the Superbowl, players want the money, while they can still play.

Players are like everyone else. They want to get paid as much as they can. I’d never work at any job that didn’t pay me what other companies are paying their employees

 

[Praxit]

I'm not a big Pete Prisco fan but he's been saying for years that the 3 most important things to (most) players are IN ORDER:

1) Making as much money as they possibly can
2) Making the HOF
3) Winning a Super Bowl

… sounds pretty selfish. Play your position at a high level and you’ll get paid. In return you help the team get to a championship. Who cares about HOF.

 

[DandyDon52]

Blaming the players for wanting more money ......

Meanwhile

In 1995 Jerry Jones was worth 900 million dollars.

After 30 years of failing to win anything he is now worth 17.1 billion

And people claim the players do not deserve the big contracts.

Those 2 things have nothing to do with each other ! lol
Jerry makes money off other things besides the cowboys.

The players are paid out of a set salary cap, not jerrys bank account !
The more you pay one player, that means less for the rest of the players.
It has to be restricted or you go over the cap in which case the team is fined/penalized.

Like dallas already has dak and lamb taking up huge chunks of the cap, if they pay micah 40 or more , that is 3 players taking up 135 million per year, which doesnt leave much for the other players.
Fans only care about the stars being paid huge sums, not all the others on the team, who basically
take same risks but for much lower pay.
I am for players being paid well, but not just the few stars, who without the other team mates couldnt do much by themselves.

It is all a mess and it isnt done right, which will never affect the owners who will continue to enlarge their stacks of gold.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Sully I understand what you’re saying although I disagree somewhat in comparing what pro athletes do and what we normal humans do in the workplace.

I would also add that most NFL organizations…in fact almost all NFL teams do their contract squabbles privately for the most part and don’t wait until training camp to or later to get deals done. The better teams (unfortunately like the egirls) get their star players done by the spring so they can 100% focus on OTAs, TC, and getting ready to start the season.

The worst part of all this: They will cave and end up paying Micah at least $4-5 million more than they had to because they want to have these circus public negotiations. It’s stupid.

Jimmy Johnson called Jerry out in 1993 when Jerry refused to pay Emmitt as the top paid RB in football and the defending SB champs started 0-2. Jerry ended up (after all that posturing) paying Emmitt exactly what he asked for anyway. The Cowboys went on to win the SB again in ‘93.

It will never make sense to me to pretend to play “hardball” then give the player everything they asked for after wasting time and money. It literally makes zero sense. Unless JJ just wants the pub.

You make a great point Bob....about us "normal" schmoes do in our everyday jobs.

I wonder how many of these athletes truly appreciate their blessings.

( of course at least partially from hard work and sacrifice).

But now that i say that...a lot of us take our blessings for granted.

 

[Bobhaze]

You make a great point Bob....about us "normal" schmoes do in our everyday jobs.

I wonder how many of these athletes truly appreciate their blessings.

( of course at least partially from hard work and sacrifice).

But now that i say that...a lot of us take our blessings for granted.

Steve one of the things that irks me about what JJ and SJ have done with Parsons is to put all the negotiation talk out in public.

Since Sully mentioned “real world” jobs think about this - Imagine you are up for your annual revue and a raise is in order. But your boss announces at an office meeting in front of other employees that you “need to want to get paid” and that they need more “leadership” from you. That would be fine in a face-to-face private meeting. But in public?

And what if Micah started saying, “Jerry and Stephen don’t have much room to talk about accountability and leadership do they?” He would be under attack, and rightly so for talking that way about his bosses (even though it’s true!) Why is it ok for the Jones to diss employees in public?

 

[zerofill]

The front office leaders, Jerry and Stephen Jones are horrible at signing their star players. We have seen this sloppy nonsense nearly every time over all of these years.

The players and coaches change. The only constant are The Cavemen. So, don't put it all on Parsons, Sully. We saw this with Emmitt Smith in 1993 and no way you can tell me he didn't want to win SBs. The Jones boys are clumsy with this. Period.

Charles Haley negotiated that deal getting done lol

 

[Bullflop]

Obviously, the Cowboys' FO doesn't want to pay a record-breaking amount of money to play for them. If that's the case, it seems clear that it must be time for both sides to hash things out and come to an agreement. If they find a way to make it happen, a trade would likely be an alternate option.

Obviously, this waiting game that both sides are playing needs to come to a halt. It's harmful to both sides. They must get practical and come to an agreement or arrange a trade that pleases both parties enough to make it happen. It's well past time to stop playing these foolishly harmful games.