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[Cowboys5217]

This is such a great post and speaks to a lot of issues people have with happiness. Live in the moment. Enjoy the journey. Well said.

But it is going to fall on deaf ears. Mountaineer Cowboys is the BIGGEST troll on this entire thread... and that is saying something.

Why are you so concerned with what you perceive to be his happiness?

 

[DandyDon52]

Imagine if Parcells had stayed for 07!!! Or at the very least Crayton doesn’t drop the 3rd down catch or keeps running through the route at the end.

Well the cowboys would have probably made it to SB, but not sure they could have beat NE.
When I say SB capable teams, I mean getting to a SB, not winning one.

Getting there is hard, but then winning, depends on who the other team is , may be easy to near impossible.

If you look at poor buffalo, they had to play great nfce teams in all 4 of their SB's , that was just bad luck.
To this day they are the only team to ever go to 4 SB's in a row.
They played against Bill Parcells, Joe Gibbs, and Jimmy Johnson twice lol. All 3 are in HOF? not sure about gibbs, but other 2 are.

 

[DandyDon52]

Not just coaches....come on. When we needed our star leaders to excel....they failed.

that is what great coaches do , is get their players up for a game, and have a good game plan to allow them to excel.
Wade let the 07 team go to cabo, and be way too overconfident.
JG called a timeout instead of getting a play off quickly which led to the 4th down catch play. They had called it a first down, when clearly it wasnt
I noticed it but ol JG didnt and called a TO !! lol I could not believe it.

2016 they should have started Romo against GB with the option to put dak in if romo gets hurt or plays poorly , struggles.
It would be much easier for dak to be put in later than to have to start that game.
I thought tony was the qb they needed to beat GB, and if they get past GB they would play seattle who they already beat.
Again though JG was the hc and just not good enough for the big games.

2022 again poor coaching, poor job of getting players up for the game, and poor game plan, against a really good defense.
This was a defensive game and any mistakes are magnified in a game such as this. Dak 2 ints. and I agree other players not stepping up.
But I dont think dallas was good enough to beat phil in phil, they really needed to be top seed, and then just play 2 at home, then they have a good shot.

 

[DandyDon52]

Culture is the issue. Period. I think this coaching staff is solid.

Culture is the issue.......yes and the part that comes from jones boys cant be eliminated, but with the right HC, culture could be made
much better.
MM cant do that, and if staff was so solid why did they get rid of KM, and the other off coaches?
And are they better now or not? we cant possibly know until we see at least 8 games or a whole season.

 

[DandyDon52]

not 4... all playoff appearances are a shot at a SB for every team and 18 that late run is what typically launches team they traded for cooper went on a run and los tot the rams in the 2nd round..it happens but that year wasn't any different of Better than boat NYG runs.. you do not get to choose in hindsight which were more capable, all of them count.

well you see it exactly as jerry does !
I disagree, just getting in the playoffs doesnt mean a team has a shot at a SB run.

Those giant teams were talented, with great defenses, their record was misleading. they also had players step it up once in playoffs and in SB.

 

[Whyjerry]

Culture is the issue.......yes and the part that comes from jones boys cant be eliminated, but with the right HC, culture could be made
much better.
MM cant do that, and if staff was so solid why did they get rid of KM, and the other off coaches?
And are they better now or not? we cant possibly know until we see at least 8 games or a whole season.

No coach will be able to win with Jerry. Not one.

 

[shabazz]

Is this sarcasam?

I ain't about that participation trophy "I just hope both teams have fun" type of stuff.

So much success picking “star players”, that can’t get to an NFC Championship game in a quarter century

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

that is what great coaches do , is get their players up for a game, and have a good game plan to allow them to excel.
Wade let the 07 team go to cabo, and be way too overconfident.
JG called a timeout instead of getting a play off quickly which led to the 4th down catch play. They had called it a first down, when clearly it wasnt
I noticed it but ol JG didnt and called a TO !! lol I could not believe it.

2016 they should have started Romo against GB with the option to put dak in if romo gets hurt or plays poorly , struggles.
It would be much easier for dak to be put in later than to have to start that game.
I thought tony was the qb they needed to beat GB, and if they get past GB they would play seattle who they already beat.
Again though JG was the hc and just not good enough for the big games.

2022 again poor coaching, poor job of getting players up for the game, and poor game plan, against a really good defense.
This was a defensive game and any mistakes are magnified in a game such as this. Dak 2 ints. and I agree other players not stepping up.
But I dont think dallas was good enough to beat phil in phil, they really needed to be top seed, and then just play 2 at home, then they have a good shot.

I do agree coaches have to have good plans and goals and training...BUT.....

So when a player drops a pass. Fumbles a ball. Throws an interception on the EXACT same play that almost got intercepted...that's coaches fault?

The COACHES have to inspire the players to not screw up?

What is this...pee wee league?

These are grown az men....with a JOB to do.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

No coach will be able to win with Jerry. Not one.

Jimmy.

 

[DandyDon52]

No coach will be able to win with Jerry. Not one.

so far that is true, but big mike thinks he can lol.
So far 3 strikes, will he ever hit one?

 

[DandyDon52]

I do agree coaches have to have good plans and goals and training...BUT.....

So when a player drops a pass. Fumbles a ball. Throws an interception on the EXACT same play that almost got intercepted...that's coaches fault?

The COACHES have to inspire the players to not screw up?

What is this...pee wee league?

These are grown az men....with a JOB to do.

coaches have to "teach" how to do things properly.
There is a film of bill parcells teaching punt returners all the fundamentals that he thought were essential.
It is probably on you tube, check that out.
Dropping a pass can be corrected thru teaching, so can many other things.

 

[T-RO]

McCarthy, despite his flaws, is an improvement over all coaches since at least Parcells.

You boys are gonna get some hard truth soon enough.

It's been Mighty-Quinn and Knows-Moore who have been the needle movers the past few seasons.

In 10 months Big Mike will be eating greasy BBQ on his couch again. Quinn will be Cowboys head coach w/defensive focus. (Mostly A good thing). Dak will have his third offensive coordinator/system in 3 yeas (A really bad thing)

 

[Rayman70]

Lance Dunbar and even Wilbur were nice under the radar guys that helped us during the 2014 season. Even Mo Claiborne had a decent year that year.

 

[Rayman70]

it wasn't all bad coaching all 4 years. Sometimes u come across a better team and get beat. But 2014 and 2016 I felt we had the best team and were just snake bit by the refs in GB and the guy known as AROD in 2016. It was a crazy throw he made 2 Lewis that even he rarely makes. Truthfully, I can't blame coaching on that. They made a play and we didn't.

 

[NotForLong]

You boys are gonna get some hard truth soon enough.

It's been Mighty-Quinn and Knows-Moore who have been the needle movers the past few seasons.

In 10 months Big Mike will be eating greasy BBQ on his couch again. Quinn will be Cowboys head coach w/defensive focus. (Mostly A good thing). Dak will have his third offensive coordinator/system in 3 yeas (A really bad thing)

10 months from now He may be carried off the Field a Cowboy Legend and Dak will be scratching His head from the sidelines

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

coaches have to "teach" how to do things properly.
There is a film of bill parcells teaching punt returners all the fundamentals that he thought were essential.
It is probably on you tube, check that out.
Dropping a pass can be corrected thru teaching, so can many other things.

Okay..we will have to disagree. I think you are missing a human element here. Not sure why you put everything on the coaches. Often they can;t even pick their own players. Many have to "work with what they got". You can only teach so much the individual MUST execute.

You have a mindset and skill like Michael Jordan. He had good coaches along the way but much of it...cannot be taught.

 

[CouchCoach]

The problem is not and has not been talent with this franchise. The problem is totally releasing that talent to the coaching staff and then staying out of the way. Give them all the rope; don't tie their hands with any of it.

Think the players do not realize the dysfunction within the team? Do they see the owner and his son seeking and sharing the spotlight year round? Who do they see for the other 31 teams? The HC and it would take at least the top 5 spotlight seeking HC's to equal one of the Joneses demanding this coverage.

And because it is all based on ego gratification, they say things about players that should not be said publicly. Their high praise is all self-serving.

You have never heard, and will likely never hear, any other GM say the words "moral victory" in public.

 

[blueblood70]

well you see it exactly as jerry does !
I disagree, just getting in the playoffs doesnt mean a team has a shot at a SB run.

Those giant teams were talented, with great defenses, their record was misleading. they also had players step it up once in playoffs and in SB.

no as fan your team has to first qualify for the playoffs which 4 of the last 6 years we did, in order to compete for the SB, that a contender each playoff game is contending for playoff's. it how sports work but fan narratives try and twist facts to support their narrative,. it doesnt hold water, sorry,. BTW many of those losses were tight one score games and that means the team was competitive and in fact they had a show. Period..

good try though but cherry picking which payoff games we were more contenders than not, is you smearing the jones family to support the "we hate the jones boys fan club" mission statement.. not here those teams were all good enough but the other teams were better on that day , the players imploded mistakes cost us those 1 score games, NOT talent. jerry didn't throw INTs, have 14 penalties, didn't call back and obvious catch, or fumble a FG snap etc etc

sometimes blue players and execution, not the owner who is already proves since 2k we have more PB payer been drafted and those draftees played more snaps with the team that drafted them than any other team also top 11 in wins since 2k , top 7 the last decade and Dak is top 5 in wins since 16..shows the teams had talent, and had shot and well only one team is left standing as the winner so 30 teams technically were never contenders and 1 was runner up.. ummm it doesn't work that way.

the best team doesn't always win , the team that plays the best that game or makes the least amount of metnal mistakes,

goal 1, get to the playoffs, that makes you in contention ie contender.

 

[cmoney23]

Why are you so concerned with what you perceive to be his happiness?

Sniff, sniff...

I smell... Burner account.

 

[conner01]

The Cowboys have done a better than average job in drafting talented players. Let's look at rookies drafted and signed since 2011.

2011 Draft & College FA Rookies - 473 games started for Cowboys, 188 games started for other teams, 4 Pro Bowl players (3.41)

• +OT Tyron Smith - 148 games
• LB Bruce Carter - 36 games (32 & 4)
• +RB DeMarco Murray - 86 games (47 & 39)
• OG David Arkin - 0 games
• CB Josh Thomas - 10 games (0 & 10)
• +WR/KR Dwayne Harris - 11 games (3 & 8)
• RB Shaun Chapas - 0 games
• OG Bill Nagy - 4 games
• KEY UNDRAFTED COLLEGE FREE AGENTS
• P Chris Jones - 126 games
• +PK Dan Bailey - 154 games (108 & 46)
• LB Alex Albright - 2 games
• RB Phillip Tanner - 0 games
• CB Mario Butler - 1 game (0 & 1)
• PK Kai Forbath - 83 games (3 & 80)

2012 Draft & College FA Rookies - 244 games started for Cowboys, 220 games started for other teams (2.61)

• CB Morris Claiborne - 74 games (43 & 31)
• DE Tyrone Crawford - 79 games
• LB Kyle Wilbur - 17 games (16 & 1)
• S Matt Johnson - 0 games
• WR Danny Coale - 0 games
• TE James Hanna - 37 games
• LB Caleb McSurdy - 0 games
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• OG Ron Leary - 76 games (47 & 29)
• WR Cole Beasley - 51 games (22 & 29)
• RB Lance Dunbar - 0 games
• LS Charlie Hughlett - 130 games (0 & 130)

2013 Draft & College FA Rookies - 273 games started for the Cowboys, 41 games started for other teams, 1 Pro Bowl player, (1.93)

• +OC Travis Frederick - 96 games
• TE Gavin Escobar - 7 games
• WR Terrance Williams - 68 games
• S J.J. Wilcox - 39 games (38 & 1)
• CB B.W. Webb - 35 games (0 & 35)
• RB Joseph Randle - 8 games
• LB DeVonte Holloman - 2 games
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• S Jeff Heath - 59 games (54 & 5)

2014 Draft & College FA Rookies - 294 games started for Cowboys, 223 games started for other teams, 3 Pro Bowl players (3.54)

• +OG Zack Martin - 137 games
• +DE DeMarcus Lawrence - 102 games
• LB Anthony Hitchens - 107 games (48 & 59)
• WR Devin Street - 2 games
• DE Ben Gardner - 0 games
• LB Will Smith - 0 games
• S Ahmad Dixon - 0 games
• DT Ken Bishop - 5 games
• CB Terrance Mitchell - 56 games (0 & 56)
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• +LS Casey Kreiter - 108 games (0 & 108)

2015 Draft & College FA Rookies - 204 games started for Cowboys, 150 games started for other teams, 1 Pro Bowl player (2.72)

• +CB Byron Jones - 103 games (73 & 30)
• DE Randy Gregory - 15 games (12 & 3)
• OT Chaz Green - 8 games (6 & 2)
• LB Damien Wilson - 73 games (22 & 51)
• DE Ryan Russell - 7 games (0 & 7)
• LB Mark Nzeocha - 3 games (0 & 3)
• OT Laurence Gibson - 0 games
• TE Geoff Swaim - 57 games (18 & 39)
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• OT La'el Collins - 86 games (71 & 15)
• QB Jamiell Showers - 0 games
• WR Lucky Whitehead - 2 games

2016 Draft & College FA Rookies - 385 games started for Cowboys, 152 games started for other teams, 2 Pro Bowl players (4.71)

• +RB Ezekiel Elliott - 102 games
• LB Jaylon Smith - 69 games (56 & 13)
• DT Maliek Collins - 96 games (55 & 41)
• DE Charles Tapper - 0 games
• +QB Dak Prescott - 97 games
• CB Anthony Brown - 69 games
• S Kavon Frazier - 2 games
• RB Darius Jackson - 0 games
• TE Rico Gathers - 4 games
• KEY UNDRAFTED COLLEGE FREE AGENTS
• LS Zach Wood - 98 games (0 & 98)

2017 Draft & College FA Rookies - 181 games started for Cowboys, 61 games started for other teams (2.47)

• DE Taco Charlton - 13 games (7 & 6)
• CB Chidobe Awuzie - 64 games (42 & 22)
• CB Jourdan Lewis - 43 games
• WR Ryan Switzer - 1 games (0 & 1)
• S Xavier Woods - 80 games (48 & 32)
• CB Marquez White - 0 games
• DT Joey Ivie - 0 games
• WR Noah Brown - 18 games
• DT Jordan Carrell - 0 games
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• QB Cooper Rush - 6 games
• TE Blake Jarwin - 17 games

2018 Draft & College FA Rookies - 233 games started for Cowboys, 89 games started for other teams, 1 Pro Bowl player (3.93)

• +LB Leighton Vander Esch - 60 games
• OG Connor Williams - 68 games (51 & 17)
• WR Michael Gallup - 54 games
• DE Dorance Armstrong - 13 games
• TE Dalton Shultz - 51 games
• QB Mike White - 7 games (0 & 7)
• LB Chris Covington - 0 games
• WR Cedrick Wilson - 4 games
• RB Bo Scarbrough - 5 games (0 & 5)
• KEY UNDRAFTED COLLEGE FREE AGENTS
• CB Charvarius Ward (0 & 60 games)

2019 Draft & College FA Rookies - 70 games started for Cowboys, 17 games started for other teams (1.32)

• DT Trysten Hill - 5 games
• OG Connor McGovern - 29 games
• RB Tony Pollard - 6 games
• CB Michael Jackson - 17 games (0 & 17)
• DE Joe Jackson - 0 games
• S Donovan Wilson - 30 games
• RB Mike Weber - 0 games
• DE Jalen Jelks - 0 games
• KEY UNDRAFTED COLLEGE FREE AGENTS
• LB Luke Gifford - 0 games
• OT Mitch Hyatt - 0 games

2020 Draft & College FA Rookies - 183 games started for Cowboys, 3 Pro Bowl players (3.66)

• +WR CeeDee Lamb - 44 games
• +CB Trevon Diggs - 44 games
• DT Neville Gallimore - 14 games
• CB Reggie Robinson - 0 games
• +C Tyler Biadasz - 37 games
• DE Bradlee Anae - 0 games
• QB Ben DiNucci - 1 game
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• OT Terence Steele - 40 games
• RB Rico Dowdle - 0 games
• TE Sean MCKeon - 3 games

2021 Draft & College FA Rookies - 83 games started for the Cowboys, 1 Pro-Bowl player, (2.44)

• +LB Micah Parsons - 33 games
• CB Kelvin Joseph - 3 games
• DT Osa Odighizuwa - 29 games
• DE Chauncey Golston - 0 games
• CB NahShon Wright - 3 games
• LB Jabril Cox - 0 games
• OT Josh Ball - 0 games
• WR Simi Fehoko - 0 games
• DT Quinton Bohanna - 10 games
• CB Israel Mukuamu - 3 games
• OG Matt Farniok - 2 games

2022 Draft & College FA Rookies - 41 games started for Cowboys, 4 games started for other teams (2.65)

• OT Tyler Smith - 17 games
• DE Sam Williams - 0 games
• WR Jalen Tolbert - 1 game
• TE Jake Ferguson - 8 games
• OT Matt Waletzko - 0 games
• CB DaRon Bland - 8 games
• LB Damone Clark - 5 games
• DT John Ridgeway - 4 games (0 & 4)
• LB Devin Harper - 0 games
• KEY UNDRAFTED COLLEGE FREE AGENTS
• S Marquese Bell - 0 games
• RB Malik Davis - 0 games
• TE Peyton Hendershot - 2 games

Fantastic work
Much appreciated