Pat's CB Samuel Won't Return Until Week 10 of Season

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I don't think they care much about their secondary (excluding the safety pos.), they are smart about having good pass-rushing linebackers and a very solid Defensive line that gets pressure to the qb... The Pats know where to spend money, because they know what creates turnovers. I think SD and Ne have average at best secondaries but the pressure and havoc they created up front hid those weaknesses. Samuel should make his 8 million and then jet out of NE; hasn't he seen the FA low-ball their players?
 

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NE was lucky in 2001-2004 as there really was not a real challenger that was a better team at the time. Now with SD and Indy and maybe Baltimore, not to mention Cinci, there is a whole lot more quality in the AFC. NE was NOT that close to the SB- if that idiot SD DB does not fumble that INT then they lose there. Indy was behind and then ground down and dominated NE in the second half of the AFC champ game. BB saw this and got desperate this off season: Moss is someone BB would not have touched a few years ago. And the NE secondary is not that great that they can shrug off Samuel. They better hope thomas has a 20 sack season because they are going to need that production. And we shall see how things go with Moss.
 

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burmafrd;1519378 said:
NE was lucky in 2001-2004 as there really was not a real challenger that was a better team at the time. Now with SD and Indy and maybe Baltimore, not to mention Cinci, there is a whole lot more quality in the AFC. NE was NOT that close to the SB- if that idiot SD DB does not fumble that INT then they lose there. Indy was behind and then ground down and dominated NE in the second half of the AFC champ game. BB saw this and got desperate this off season: Moss is someone BB would not have touched a few years ago. And the NE secondary is not that great that they can shrug off Samuel. They better hope thomas has a 20 sack season because they are going to need that production. And we shall see how things go with Moss.
JMO, but you can only be lucky so many times. You might get lucky once, but three times. Sometimes you gotta give credit where credit's due.
 

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All three were by FGs. All three could have been lost by just one play being different. Now I say for sure that BB and company figured out the salary cap faster then anyone else did- but now pretty much everyone has figured it out as well, and its noticeable that the NE draft is not as good as it was earlier. Add to that I do not think that BB has been really able to replace Weis and Crennel with the same ability.
 

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jterrell;1519235 said:
huh???

They have to pay him 8 mil for the franchise tag!
If they signed him he would get 15 mil up front at least.

The Pats have been notoriously cheap.
Because they win guys take their lumps and play for less but that wasnt gonna work with everyone forever.

They paid Tom Brady, they didn't Low Ball him........Why franchise him if ur not gonna pay him.....
 
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I wouldn't mind having Samuel opposite of Newman, he's a playmaker to me. I don't put too much into that "product of the system" crap...
 
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