PATs changed but not significantly IMO

Parcells4Life

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Now will be a 33 yard FG. I don't think it will that big a deal. 2-point conversions will stay at the 2. Would have been more entertaining to go to the 1 since the Dallas OL could have pushed its way through.
 

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Means that there will essentially be no fakes...but then again that hardly ever happened anyway. Should make last second PATs for the win/tie a lot more interesting, but other than that not a huge change.
 

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I'm in favor of this. The extra point has become a useless 99% play that people don't care about anymore. It's <was> about the only portion of a NFL game that basically wasn't worth watching.

Now they've made it more interesting.
 

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So now kickers will have an even bigger role in games. Great
 

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Will make it more interesting to kick the PAT lol. There was a very small, sorta semi pro league that had the PATs back at the 35 and it made for some interesting games, but all but one of teams kickers weren't very good
 

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I think the 2 point conversion is close to being the mathematically correct decision now.

Without looking at the statistics - I'm going to say doubtful. The chances of you converting from the 2 is the same as 4th and 2. I'd venture to say that was less than 50% last year. I'm guessing the 35-40% range. If you have a kicker like Bailey, you get the 1 every time. If you have a suspect kicker, though.. I could see the statistics favoring your idea.
 

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Without looking at the statistics - I'm going to say doubtful. The chances of you converting from the 2 is the same as 4th and 2. I'd venture to say that was less than 50% last year. I'm guessing the 35-40% range. If you have a kicker like Bailey, you get the 1 every time. If you have a suspect kicker, though.. I could see the statistics favoring your idea.

Bailey was 6/7 last year, or 86% from 30-39 yards. The 2 point conversion percentage is 50%. I'm too stupid to do the math, but it is pretty close.
 

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Actually the math would favor two points by that argument. 2*.5 =1 or 1*.86 =0.86. Points per attempt I guess is how you would break it up.

I want to know exact yard lines. A missed 39 harder is a lot different than a 33 yarder. Hope we got that data soon.

Bailey was 6/7 last year, or 86% from 30-39 yards. The 2 point conversion percentage is 50%. I'm too stupid to do the math, but it is pretty close.
 

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Actually the math would favor two points by that argument. 2*.5 =1 or 1*.86 =0.86. Points per attempt I guess is how you would break it up.

I want to know exact yard lines. A missed 39 harder is a lot different than a 33 harder. Hope we got that data soon.

Yes, plus I don't really buy the 50% conversion rate on 2 point conversions. That will likely change somewhat, and there isn't much of a sample size. This is actually a pretty complex game theory problem with a lot of variables. Like I said, I am too stupid to figure it out.

I would expect a 33 yard PAT to be much lower than the 99% it has been, however.

Also, adding the risk of giving up 2 points to the defense makes you less likely to attempt a 2 pt conversion, even if the math supports it.
 
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