Pats Fans React to Milton Trade

[TheMarathonContinues]

Out of curiosity @TheMarathonContinues, are you suggesting that he has no accuracy or that he only has accuracy against backups?

I will hold my opinion until I see a larger sample size but I am admittedly more optimistic with his 1 start than I would have been without that start. And I’m having a hard time understanding the logic of completely dismissing his accuracy in that start.

Well his scouting report says he doesn’t have accuracy. He has an arm just not an accurate one. My point was just because you light up a team with nothing to play for doesn’t mean much to me.

 

[rambo2]

Well his scouting report says he doesn’t have accuracy. He has an arm just not an accurate one. My point was just because you light up a team with nothing to play for doesn’t mean much to me.

Except that he was very accurate in that game.

 

[Spottswoode]

Well his scouting report says he doesn’t have accuracy. He has an arm just not an accurate one. My point was just because you light up a team with nothing to play for doesn’t mean much to me.

No I get what the scouting report says. It’s been pointed out 100 times in this thread.

And while his stats in one game might not mean anything to you, is it reasonable for someone else to place some degree meaning on that game? For what it’s worth, it is the last real look most people have had on his progress since his college days.

Maybe it was a mirage…maybe it was a sign of better days ahead…only time will tell. I just don’t get the all the minimization and lol’s when people think differently. But admittedly there are a lot of things about this forum that I don’t get.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

No I get what the scouting report says. It’s been pointed out 100 times in this thread.

And while his stats in one game might not mean anything to you, is it reasonable for someone else to place some degree meaning on that game? For what it’s worth, it is the last real look most people have had on his progress since his college days.

Maybe it was a mirage…maybe it was a sign of better days ahead…only time will tell. I just don’t get the all the minimization and lol’s when people think differently. But admittedly there are a lot of things about this forum that I don’t get.

It’s nothing against him. I think you can do this with a lot of guys. Trey Lance had a good game against the Texans in 2021. Nobody cared. They still called him a bust.

My only complaint is there is a narrative about the Bills game that’s not being mentioned. They had nothing to play for and it was backups.

 

[Spottswoode]

It’s nothing against him. I think you can do this with a lot of guys. Trey Lance had a good game against the Texans in 2021. Nobody cared. They still called him a bust.

My only complaint is there is a narrative about the Bills game that’s not being mentioned. They had nothing to play for and it was backups.

The narrative that the Bills game was against backups and was a meaningless game has been mentioned 100 times on every Milton post as well. Numerous people have made both things you mentioned crystal clear.

But the point is why do people need to minimize others opinions and add little catty comments. Just share the opinion without adding the sarcastic accents and the overall tone of these threads would improve overnight.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The narrative that the Bills game was against backups and was a meaningless game has been mentioned 100 times on every Milton post as well. Numerous people have made both things you mentioned crystal clear.

But the point is why do people need to minimize others opinions and add little catty comments. Just share the opinion without adding the sarcastic accents and the overall tone of these threads would improve overnight.

What was catty or sarcastic about what I said?

 

[jterrell]

Yup. this was a good trade for Dallas who hopped on another team's weakness.
Not unlike CLE getting Cooper from us.

Milton is a good prospect with at least one legit NFL showing and Drake Maye simply didn't want him there over his shoulder.
So NE basically gave him away outside the conference.

He is worth a lot more than an R6 in this QB starved draft

 

[jterrell]

This Patriots fan's comment paints Milton as a locker room clown. SMH

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The locker room issue was Maye didn't like that Pats drafted another rookie QB.
It wasn't about any clowning.

 

[SwagSurfer]

So their fanbase fell in love with their 3rd string qb too?

 

[Pokes12]

Well his scouting report says he doesn’t have accuracy. He has an arm just not an accurate one. My point was just because you light up a team with nothing to play for doesn’t mean much to me.

Right, I get it. Ignore the evidence if 22 for 29 but believe as gospel he is not accurate from some guy who never played the game. Brilliant!!!

 

[Pokes12]

Yup. this was a good trade for Dallas who hopped on another team's weakness.
Not unlike CLE getting Cooper from us.

Milton is a good prospect with at least one legit NFL showing and Drake Maye simply didn't want him there over his shoulder.
So NE basically gave him away outside the conference.

He is worth a lot more than an R6 in this QB starved draft

Right on, brother. The FO deserves one kudos for this move. He will beat out Dak this year. Put money on it. Dak will go down and Milton won’t give him the job back.

 

[Spottswoode]

He was 22 for 29 with a TD and a running TD. He had a perfect QB rating against the second string Buffalo Bills. He can’t throw?

You just said the second string Bills lol….

“What was catty or sarcastic about what I said?“

How do you think anyone with basic reading comprehension would read that? Or did you just think that @Pokes12 didn’t know what he just typed and you wanted to let him know? And the lol at the end was a nice touch.

You know what you meant and so did everyone else with half a brain. This is an example of how fights start on this board.

 

[Spottswoode]

“What was catty or sarcastic about what I said?“

How do you think anyone with basic reading comprehension would read that? Or did you just think that @Pokes12 didn’t know what he just typed and you wanted to let him know? And the lol at the end was a nice touch.

You know what you meant and so did everyone else with half a brain. This is an example of how fights start on this board.

I should have left out the “lol” being a nice touch. My point was the “lol” adds context to your likely intent but is hypocritical of me to include sarcasm when my complaint is about the sarcastic tones of these posts. I can do better as well.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Right, I get it. Ignore the evidence if 22 for 29 but believe as gospel he is not accurate from some guy who never played the game. Brilliant!!!

Ignore what evidence? I didn’t ignore anything lol. I just want to see more from him before I make my own observation.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

“What was catty or sarcastic about what I said?“

How do you think anyone with basic reading comprehension would read that? Or did you just think that @Pokes12 didn’t know what he just typed and you wanted to let him know? And the lol at the end was a nice touch.

You know what you meant and so did everyone else with half a brain. This is an example of how fights start on this board.

Wait I’m confused is that you I replied to or you are upset that I replied to another poster that way…..he said he had a perfect qb rating against a second string team. I put the “lol” so it would prevent a fight. You seem to be the only one with an issue. I think we can all agree we have more pressing needs than getting upset over the use of “lol” and certainly don’t intend to fight over Joe Milton a move I’m in favor. You’re being a tad bit emotional over this.

 

[Spottswoode]

Wait I’m confused is that you I replied to or you are upset that I replied to another poster that way…..he said he had a perfect qb rating against a second string team. I put the “lol” so it would prevent a fight. You seem to be the only one with an issue. I think we can all agree we have more pressing needs than getting upset over the use of “lol” and certainly don’t intend to fight over Joe Milton a move I’m in favor. You’re being a tad bit emotional over this.

I’m not being emotional at all and I never suggested I was upset. I’m just part of the 95% that finds the constant fighting by the 5% boring and childish. I’m not suggesting you are part of the 5%…I really don’t know.

To be clear, I don’t have any issues with you and think you make a lot of great points on many threads. The reason I joined the discussion was to point out a specific case where being curt would likely not lead to a productive conversation. You entered the discussion by choosing to laugh at something @Pokes12 said that was clearly intended to be serious. For the life of me, I can’t imagine how your comment wouldn’t be construed as anything other than a slight to his opinion. But only you know your true intent.

My issue is not the use of “lol” or even this specific post. It’s about having the self awareness to recognize the tipping point where respect and civility is likely to devolve into bickering and personal attacks. This was just 1 of many on this thread alone where you can witness the genesis of an argument.

Go to any thread and it’s easy to find the posts that starts the spiral. From there, the factions ready for battle, the lust for “likes” and validation ensues, and eyes of the 95% glaze over. Eventually the likes are harvested, the victor reigns supreme, and an uneasy calm is restored. But that’s just my opinion and I could be wrong.

 

[Pokes12]

I’m not being emotional at all and I never suggested I was upset. I’m just part of the 95% that finds the constant fighting by the 5% boring and childish. I’m not suggesting you are part of the 5%…I really don’t know.

To be clear, I don’t have any issues with you and think you make a lot of great points on many threads. The reason I joined the discussion was to point out a specific case where being curt would likely not lead to a productive conversation. You entered the discussion by choosing to laugh at something @Pokes12 said that was clearly intended to be serious. For the life of me, I can’t imagine how your comment wouldn’t be construed as anything other than a slight to his opinion. But only you know your true intent.

My issue is not the use of “lol” or even this specific post. It’s about having the self awareness to recognize the tipping point where respect and civility is likely to devolve into bickering and personal attacks. This was just 1 of many on this thread alone where you can witness the genesis of an argument.

Go to any thread and it’s easy to find the posts that starts the spiral. From there, the factions ready for battle, the lust for “likes” and validation ensues, and eyes of the 95% glaze over. Eventually the likes are harvested, the victor reigns supreme, and an uneasy calm is restored. But that’s just my opinion and I could be wrong.

I appreciate your sentiments. I am not sure what got this guy so riled up. The point was that I thought Milton looked more than solid against Buffalo. I just acknowledged that Buffalo was not playing their starters. I was attempting to preempt the naysayers who would point that out as a reason not to believe the stat line. I have no dog in this fight. I believe the front office redeemed themselves after blowing a 4th round pick on Trey Lance, who I do not see as a talent that will bloom with time. He has had his time in the NFL, and it appears that he is not going to be a force. I don't think he has the talent to be a reliable backup. Milton intrigues me. Will he be a force? We will see. I am rooting for the young man!!

 

[fivetwos]

Heard this recently…I cannot recall who it was but it was someone on the TV…said that part of the reason for dealing Milton was that he was not about accepting being a backup.

I truly do not see how he fits here, and why he wanted to come here specifically if thats at all true.

A prominent NY radio host today speculated that after the upcoming season Prescott would be traded to Cleveland. I have no idea how they are going to talk him into that.

If that happens, the dead money that’ll hit just so Jerry could have his security of being relevant will be significant….but he’s got this. No one better.

 

[Spottswoode]

I appreciate your sentiments. I am not sure what got this guy so riled up. The point was that I thought Milton looked more than solid against Buffalo. I just acknowledged that Buffalo was not playing their starters. I was attempting to preempt the naysayers who would point that out as a reason not to believe the stat line. I have no dog in this fight. I believe the front office redeemed themselves after blowing a 4th round pick on Trey Lance, who I do not see as a talent that will bloom with time. He has had his time in the NFL, and it appears that he is not going to be a force. I don't think he has the talent to be a reliable backup. Milton intrigues me. Will he be a force? We will see. I am rooting for the young man!!

I don’t think he was riled up…his discussion with me was civil. Relative to many posts, his comment was pretty tame with even the most negative reading. And I believe him when he says his intent wasn’t to start an argument. I think you should too.

I only got involved because it seemed like a simple way to show how the choice of words can send a discussion off the rails. It gets tiresome for those who just want to converse when a handful of members dominate a thread with petty arguments. And once it starts, the thread rarely gets back to normal.

 

[chagus]

Hard to believe our FO actually made a good trade.

Agreed. Milton is already better than Lance and a very possible high caliber upgrade from Rush (who i actually liked). Great trade. Plus, i wanted Milton in the draft last year. That arm talent is insane.