PED's are the 13th man?

[bsheeern]

All of those suspensions reflect admissions? Tell me more lies.

Ok
John Moffitt-

Reports linked Moffitt, Browner and Sherman to Adderall. Moffitt later said he took Adderall back in 2011, his rookie season, without knowing it violated the policy.

"The day we had the info on it, I was held out,"Moffitt told the Seattle Times last season. "I was holding out my first day so I really didn't know. I don't think guys realize because it is a medication also. There's a lot of cases where guys already had prescriptions, but not through the league. It's just a really weird thing. It's not like steroids."

 

[AbeBeta]

Ok
John Moffitt-

Reports linked Moffitt, Browner and Sherman to Adderall. Moffitt later said he took Adderall back in 2011, his rookie season, without knowing it violated the policy.

"The day we had the info on it, I was held out,"Moffitt told the Seattle Times last season. "I was holding out my first day so I really didn't know. I don't think guys realize because it is a medication also. There's a lot of cases where guys already had prescriptions, but not through the league. It's just a really weird thing. It's not like steroids."

Sherman was not suspended - you can parse that however you choose but the stone cold fact is that he was not suspended. Moffitt retired (and wasn't even on the team in 2013 before doing so). Browner missed half of the season and was not around for the playoffs.

So your entire argument about how the Seahawks are somehow getting an advantage from PEDs is falling apart. Free falling even.

 

[bsheeern]

All of those suspensions reflect admissions? Tell me more lies.

Bruce Irvin-

"I want to apologize to my teammates, coaches and Seahawks fans for making a mistake when I took a substance that is prohibited in the NFL without a medical exemption," Irvin said in a statement.

 

[bsheeern]

Sherman was not suspended - you can parse that however you choose but the stone cold fact is that he was not suspended. Moffitt retired (and wasn't even on the team in 2013 before doing so). Browner missed half of the season and was not around for the playoffs.

So your entire argument about how the Seahawks are somehow getting an advantage from PEDs is falling apart. Free falling even.

Did you notice I stated the suspensions did not include Sherman??

But He WAS Suspended by the league.

"CornerbackRichard Sherman was suspended after violating the policy, but had it overturned on a procedural technicality that didn't at all skew the results of his test.

Nowhere in arbitrator Bob Wallace's decision was it stated that Sherman's sample wasn't legit. That sample tested positive, which is proof on another level that Sherman got away with an NFL crime.

 

[bsheeern]

Sherman was not suspended - you can parse that however you choose but the stone cold fact is that he was not suspended. Moffitt retired (and wasn't even on the team in 2013 before doing so). Browner missed half of the season and was not around for the playoffs.

So your entire argument about how the Seahawks are somehow getting an advantage from PEDs is falling apart. Free falling even.

And then after HE gets Suspended he puts this out there, According to Sherman, "half the league uses Adderall,"

Lol

 

[AbeBeta]

Did you notice I stated the suspensions did not include Sherman??

But He WAS Suspended by the league.

"CornerbackRichard Sherman was suspended after violating the policy, but had it overturned on a procedural technicality that didn't at all skew the results of his test.

A. Then don't suggest Sherman as evidence

B. It wouldn't be a procedural violation if there was no chance of skewing results

 

[AbeBeta]

And then after HE gets Suspended he puts this out there, According to Sherman, "half the league uses Adderall,"

Lol

You aren't violating the policy if you have a prescription. Plain as day right there.

 

[bsheeern]

Sherman was not suspended - you can parse that however you choose but the stone cold fact is that he was not suspended. Moffitt retired (and wasn't even on the team in 2013 before doing so). Browner missed half of the season and was not around for the playoffs.

So your entire argument about how the Seahawks are somehow getting an advantage from PEDs is falling apart. Free falling even.

First you wanted me to prove that these failed test weren't for just smoking weed. Which I've clearly done.

Then you questioned whether Adderall/amphetamines gave anyone an advantage. Which I have clearly shown it does.

Now you want me to prove whether or not the players have admitted to taking band substances. I have now proved that.

At what point do you stop all of this back-and-forth and say to yourself "Ok regardless of what I think the facts that are laid out in front of me that prove otherwise".

Nowhere have I stated that the Seahawks won the Super Bowl because of PED's nor did I state the Broncos got there because of them either.

It's just a little ironic that the two locker rooms with the highest amount of suspensions both ended up in the Super Bowl. One of those teams is coached by Pete Carroll who at his last job left his former employer to deal with mountains of sanction violations.

 

[bsheeern]

Again, reading comprehension fail.

PED can be anything from the wrong supplement to straight up steroids. There are tons of PED suspensions because guys don't realize they are taking a banned substance as many commercially available nutritional supplements are covered under the policy.

And by you saying this it shows that you're completely missing the boat. It doesn't matter where they got the performance enhancing drug from. Doesn't matter if it's on the shelf at Walmart or if you have to go through the shady guy at your gym.

Like a Another poster said, it is banned for a reason. It is called a performance enhancing drug for a reason. It is banned for a reason. I think we both as cowboy fans can agree if this was Dallas it would be all over CNN, ESPN & TMZ.

 

[bsheeern]

You aren't violating the policy if you have a prescription. Plain as day right there.

Wrong again my friend. Just having a prescription does not allow you to take it. John Moffitt had a prescription from his doctor for it. He still got suspended.

Are you not reading everything that I'm posting? It clearly shows in my previous post that just having a prescription does not mean you're allowed to take a certain substance.

There are very strict guidelines on this. If you're a football player and you're making $10 million a year pretty sure you could find a doctor who will write you a prescription for anything. Therefore that's why just having the prescription doesn't mean squat in the eyes of the NFL.

Now why would that be? Is it because someone could take a substance that they don't medically need and it be used as a PED?

 

[bsheeern]

A. Then don't suggest Sherman as evidence

B. It wouldn't be a procedural violation if there was no chance of skewing results

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But He WAS Suspended by the league.

"CornerbackRichard Sherman was suspended after violating the policy, but had it overturned on a procedural technicality that didn't at all skew the results of his test.

Nowhere in arbitrator Bob Wallace's decision was it stated that Sherman's sample wasn't legit. That sample tested positive, which is proof on another level that Sherman got away with an NFL crime.

 

[AbeBeta]

First you wanted me to prove that these failed test weren't for just smoking weed. Which I've clearly done.

Then you questioned whether Adderall/amphetamines gave anyone an advantage. Which I have clearly shown it does.

Now you want me to prove whether or not the players have admitted to taking band substances. I have now proved that.

At what point do you stop all of this back-and-forth and say to yourself "Ok regardless of what I think the facts that are laid out in front of me that prove otherwise".

Nowhere have I stated that the Seahawks won the Super Bowl because of PED's nor did I state the Broncos got there because of them either.

It's just a little ironic that the two locker rooms with the highest amount of suspensions both ended up in the Super Bowl. One of those teams is coached by Pete Carroll who at his last job left his former employer to deal with mountains of sanction violations.

You have clearly shown this?

How? You cite three guys. One was not suspended. The other two not involved in the Superbowl.

 

[AbeBeta]

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But He WAS Suspended by the league.

"CornerbackRichard Sherman was suspended after violating the policy, but had it overturned on a procedural technicality that didn't at all skew the results of his test.

Nowhere in arbitrator Bob Wallace's decision was it stated that Sherman's sample wasn't legit. That sample tested positive, which is proof on another level that Sherman got away with an NFL crime.

Suspension was not held up. Overturned means suspension was not valid. Period.

 

[AbeBeta]

Wrong again my friend. Just having a prescription does not allow you to take it. John Moffitt had a prescription from his doctor for it. He still got suspended.

Are you not reading everything that I'm posting? It clearly shows in my previous post that just having a prescription does not mean you're allowed to take a certain substance.

There are very strict guidelines on this. If you're a football player and you're making $10 million a year pretty sure you could find a doctor who will write you a prescription for anything. Therefore that's why just having the prescription doesn't mean squat in the eyes of the NFL.

Now why would that be? Is it because someone could take a substance that they don't medically need and it be used as a PED?

Medical exemption I should have noted. The first step to that is a prescription.

And honestly, I think you are ignorant as to what you can and can't get a Dr. to do for you

 

[bsheeern]

Medical exemption I should have noted. The first step to that is a prescription.

And honestly, I think you are ignorant as to what you can and can't get a Dr. to do for you

Wrong again. I'm done wasting my time. No matter what I show you, you are gonna have an excuse as to why what you THINK is more VALID than the FACTS.

You can't argue they and the broncos lead the league In suspensions for PED's since 2010. You can't argue that Pete Carroll had so many violations at USC they stripped away Victories, titles, Trophies, scholarships and dignity.

 

[Don Corleone]

True story. I met a former Giants player in 1995 at the LSU rec center that told me he used to accompany Lawrence Taylor while he was getting coked up before games. No Adderall, cocaine. Given the player's status with the team, and reputation, I trusted his story.