PED's are the 13th man?

bsheeern said:
Wow oh wow....

Most PED suspensions from 2010 - June 2013
TEAMBANS
Seahawks5
Broncos4
Giants4
Source: ESPN Stats & Information
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Oh & this doesn't include Sherman who was suspended but won his appeal due to a technicality on how his test sample was handled....
 
AbeBeta said:
It does.

That information, however, is not released to the public.

All you got is speculation
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Speculation about what? If you get caught taking PEDs it's not the same as smoking weed as you questioned earlier.

You asked the question: "If the entire D is on PEDs, how do you explain that only some have been suspended? You can't tell me that most of these suspensions aren't for weed."

I ever stated the whole Defense is on PED's but you must be confusing PED's with substance abuse situations and they aren't the same. They carry a whole different set of penalties and guidelines.
 
HAHA thats why Troy and Joe kept talking about the "speed" the Seahawks had. Thats not something the Seahawks introduced into the NFL. People been gettin Jacked up for games since way back. If they can't get amphetamines they'll use plain ol caffeine. At least they didn't back into the playoffs with a 9-7 record.
 
bsheeern said:
Speculation about what? If you get caught taking PEDs it's not the same as smoking weed as you questioned earlier.

You asked the question: "If the entire D is on PEDs, how do you explain that only some have been suspended? You can't tell me that most of these suspensions aren't for weed."

I ever stated the whole Defense is on PED's but you must be confusing PED's with substance abuse situations and they aren't the same. They carry a whole different set of penalties and guidelines.
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Again. Where is your evidence?
 
All I want to know is.. WHY IS 5 HOUR ENERGY ALLOWED!?
Gives you focus and energy, it should be a PED!

=p
 
bsheeern said:
Only recently did the players' association begin its extensive awareness push, which culminated in a memo to agents on, telling them to inform players that they shouldn't use Adderall without proper authorization. (It's hard to get this authorization: A prescription alone is not enough. The NFL grants exemptions only if the pills are prescribed by a psychiatrist or an M.D. working alongside a psychologist. Even then, the psychiatrist's diagnosis has to pass a panel of NFL-selected specialists.)
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My point was more so that there are exemptions which means 1 player would be labeled a cheater while another will not with relatively little in the way of distinguishing between the two.
 
It doesn't really matter if we agree with it or not. The substance is banned from the NFL (with few exceptions) and the Seahawks are habitual and repeated offenders.

One guy on Adderall really isn't going to effect much. An entire defense on Adderall is going to be a significant advantage. I am not saying this is the case, but if it were, the accumulative effect would indeed be tangible and would shift the balance significantly.

I just wonder if the NFL is going to allow players who live in/visit Colorado to test positive for marijuana now...
 
bsheeern said:
Posted all throughout this thread. Can you not find it?
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perhaps we disagree on what "evidence" is -- as I noted, you could take the wrong OTC supplement and be suspended - you have zero idea what the suspensions are for
 
AbeBeta said:
perhaps we disagree on what "evidence" is -- as I noted, you could take the wrong OTC supplement and be suspended - you have zero idea what the suspensions are for
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You asked how did I know that the suspensions weren't for Smoking Weed. Correct?
 
AbeBeta said:
If the entire D is on PEDs, how do you explain that only some have been suspended? You can't tell me that most of these suspensions aren't for weed.
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I absolutely can.

If they were for Weed which is not A PED, they would be forced into the leagues substance abuse program. Not only that the suspensions are different for being caught using PED's vs Illegal Drugs like Weed.
 
bsheeern said:
I absolutely can.

If they were for Weed which is not A PED, they would be forced into the leagues substance abuse program. Not only that the suspensions are different for being caught using PED's vs Illegal Drugs like Weed.
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Way to ignore my comment.

Smart readers see what you are doing.
 
I guess Seattle didn't have their dosage right last year.
 
AbeBeta said:
Way to ignore my comment.

Smart readers see what you are doing.
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What did I ignore?? You don't just fail a test and automatically get suspended. That's not how it works.

Your original post said that I couldn't tell you that these suspensions weren't for just smoking weed. Well I can.

These failed drug test were NOT for smoking weed.

WEED does not fall under the league guidelines as a PED. It falls under the substance abuse policy. Two completely different results garnering to completely sets of stipulations regarding fines and suspensions.

The bottom line is The TWO teams that were in the Super Bowl were #1 and # 2 in the league for having players on their team being suspended for the use of PED's.

AGAIN I QUOTE


Most PED (performance enhancing drugs not weed) suspensions from 2010 - June 2013
TEAM BANS
1. Seahawks 5 (Does not include 3 since)
2. Broncos 4
3. Giants4
Source: ESPN Stats & Information
 
bsheeern said:
What did I ignore?? You don't just fail a test and automatically get suspended. That's not how it works.

Your original post said that I couldn't tell you that these suspensions weren't for just smoking weed. Well I can.

These failed drug test were NOT for smoking weed.

WEED does not fall under the league guidelines as a PED. It falls under the substance abuse policy. Two completely different results garnering to completely sets of stipulations regarding fines and suspensions.

The bottom line is The TWO teams that were in the Super Bowl were #1 and # 2 in the league for having players on their team being suspended for the use of PED's.

AGAIN I QUOTE


Most PED (performance enhancing drugs not weed) suspensions from 2010 - June 2013
TEAM BANS
1. Seahawks 5 (Does not include 3 since)
2. Broncos 4
3. Giants4
Source: ESPN Stats & Information
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Again, reading comprehension fail.

PED can be anything from the wrong supplement to straight up steroids. There are tons of PED suspensions because guys don't realize they are taking a banned substance as many commercially available nutritional supplements are covered under the policy.
 
AbeBeta said:
Again, reading comprehension fail.

PED can be anything from the wrong supplement to straight up steroids. There are tons of PED suspensions because guys don't realize they are taking a banned substance as many commercially available nutritional supplements are covered under the policy.
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Well when you admit to taking amphetamines it's kind of hard to spin it any other way.
First you said it was weed, now it's some lame duck excuse about a supplement.

What is next? Blame it on the Trainer? Or peoThese guys speak English & can't use that whole "Bay ball has been vewy vewy good to me" crap.
 
bsheeern said:
Well when you admit to taking amphetamines it's kind of hard to spin it any other way.
First you said it was weed, now it's some lame duck excuse about a supplement.

What is next? Blame it on the Trainer? Or peoThese guys speak English & can't use that whole "Bay ball has been vewy vewy good to me" crap.
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All of those suspensions reflect admissions? Tell me more lies.
 
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