Penalties Game 1 - Over/Under

[CoachD]

Easy call OVER, 10 will be the number.

 

[MarcusRock]

How many edits did that one take, Bozo? The struggle is SO real for you.

Tell us more about your intricate knowledge of the Saints’ 53-man rosters over the past several years!

“DURRRR THE SAINTS GUNNER ON THE PUNT TEAM IS TOO FINESSE! OF COURSE HE NEVER DRAWS A FLAG!!!”

“LOOK AT HOW TERRIBLE THE REFS HAVE BEEN TO THE SAINTS, EVEN WORSE THAN THE COWBOYS!!! THIS PROVES THAT THE REFS ARE UNBIASED AND SHOULD ALWAYS BE TRUSTED!!!”

King of deflection, lol. Your only posts stated number of penalties "proves" the Cowboys were targets of refs as if numbers = bias. They don't. So I show you a more egregious penalty situation that disproves your nonsense and you come off it immediately and actually try to spin it as useful when it destroyed your Cowboys victim point. So the NFL, Goodell, and Mara hate the Saints more than the Cowboys and have for years running?

You lose bro but you'd be a winner in the media with your spin technique.

Is your bottom lip quivering? Lol. Owned.

 

[ESisback]

Why do some posters have to brag about “winning” an Internet debate? Does their ego need that reassurance? Is there a point system? An awards banquet?

 

[BigD16]

Over 10 for sure

 

[Nav22]

King of deflection, lol. Your only posts stated number of penalties "proves" the Cowboys were targets of refs as if numbers = bias. They don't. So I show you a more egregious penalty situation that disproves your nonsense and you come off it immediately and actually try to spin it as useful when it destroyed your Cowboys victim point. So the NFL, Goodell, and Mara hate the Saints more than the Cowboys and have for years running?

You lose bro but you'd be a winner in the media with your spin technique.

Is your bottom lip quivering? Lol. Owned.

“I only got punched in the face! That other guy got punched AND kicked, therefore this proves that I wasn’t assaulted at all!!”

The logic. Your struggle.

 

[ICP]

Over

 

[ESisback]

“I only got punched in the face! That other guy got punched AND kicked, therefore this proves that I wasn’t assaulted at all!!”

The logic. Your struggle.

But he already claimed “victory”!

 

[MarcusRock]

“I only got punched in the face! That other guy got punched AND kicked, therefore this proves that I wasn’t assaulted at all!!”

The logic. Your struggle.

Nav22 trying out for the primetime news anchor slot: "Our top story: the sky turned permanently red today. Don't trust your lyin' eyes." Lol.

 

[Sydla]

Fun fact: we were middle-of-the-pack in penalties in 2020.

Despite having a coach who supposedly leads an undisciplined team (even though his Packers teams were usually among the LEAST penalized).

2020... hey, that was the year Dak got hurt and we had no chance at success anyways!

Then in 2021, we had the #1 offense (yards and points) and were #1 in takeaways too.... and we magically became the most penalized team in the league!!!

Almost like the refs knew it would take more of their shenanigans to screw us over!

14 penalties at home in the playoffs, was it?

Chris Godwin getting away with a blatant push-off to beat us in Week 1, was it?

Ticky-tack garbage PI call in overtime (that we’d never get in our favor in a million years) to screw us on Thanksgiving, was it?

Totally legit.

The never ending whining about officials out to get us is embarrassing.

That 49ers game?

1st penalty - Gregory offsides. Guess what? It was the right call. He was offsides.
2nd penalty - Gifford holding on kickoff. Guess what? He actually held. Another correct call.
3rd penalty - Holding Williams. Again, the right call
4th penalty - Gregory neutral zone. Again, the right call
5th penalty - Collins holding. This one was kind of questionable
6th penalty - Williams false start. Clear penalty
7th penalty - Collins false start. Clear penalty
8th penalty - Parsons neutral zone. Again, the right call
9th penalty - Wilson, block below the waist. Iffy but certainly not egregious
10th penalty - Lamb, illegal shift. Correct call
11th penalty - Delay of game. Correct call
12th penalty - Odi with defensive holding. Ehhhh. I question that one.
13th penalty - Gallimore, illegal use of hands. Correct call
14th penalty - Gregory, defensive holding. Yeah, questionable.

Of the 14 penalties, half were stupid stuff - offsides, illegal shifts, delay of game. All correct calls. Gallimore's hands to face? Correct. A few of the offensive holdings were the correct call. The defensive holdings, yes, we can debate them. But for the most part, the majority of penalties in that game weren't due to the refs just sticking it to us. It was due the fact we were undisciplined, which shouldnt' be surprising as we had these issues all season long.

 

[McKDaddy]

Over, look for 11/12

34 is the number that kept coming to my mind .... LOL

 

[MarcusRock]

The never ending whining about officials out to get us is embarrassing.

That 49ers game?

1st penalty - Gregory offsides. Guess what? It was the right call. He was offsides.
2nd penalty - Gifford holding on kickoff. Guess what? He actually held. Another correct call.
3rd penalty - Holding Williams. Again, the right call
4th penalty - Gregory neutral zone. Again, the right call
5th penalty - Collins holding. This one was kind of questionable
6th penalty - Williams false start. Clear penalty
7th penalty - Collins false start. Clear penalty
8th penalty - Parsons neutral zone. Again, the right call
9th penalty - Wilson, block below the waist. Iffy but certainly not egregious
10th penalty - Lamb, illegal shift. Correct call
11th penalty - Delay of game. Correct call
12th penalty - Odi with defensive holding. Ehhhh. I question that one.
13th penalty - Gallimore, illegal use of hands. Correct call
14th penalty - Gregory, defensive holding. Yeah, questionable.

Of the 14 penalties, half were stupid stuff - offsides, illegal shifts, delay of game. All correct calls. Gallimore's hands to face? Correct. A few of the offensive holdings were the correct call. The defensive holdings, yes, we can debate them. But for the most part, the majority of penalties in that game weren't due to the refs just sticking it to us. It was due the fact we were undisciplined, which shouldnt' be surprising as we had these issues all season long.

There was even a former Cowboy on the ref crew that game. No one wanted to talk about that before or after the game. Imagine if it was the reverse. Lol.

 

[morat1959]

Over…easy!

 

[Sydla]

There was even a former Cowboy on the ref crew that game. No one wanted to talk about that before or after the game. Imagine if it was the reverse. Lol.

I mean it takes balls to blame the refs for the loss when half the penalties were basic stupid stuff that were dead on accurate calls like offsides, false starts and delay of game. That right there tells you we played undisciplined that game. I mean, how can one team have like 3 offsides in one game? That's just dumb play. They literally had false starts on back to back plays. But yeah, it was the refs that blew it. LOL.

 

[MarcusRock]

I mean it takes balls to blame the refs for the loss when half the penalties were basic stupid stuff that were dead on accurate calls like offsides, false starts and delay of game. That right there tells you we played undisciplined that game. I mean, how can one team have like 3 offsides in one game? That's just dumb play. They literally had false starts on back to back plays. But yeah, it was the refs that blew it. LOL.

You see, the refs were simulating the snap count. Goodell's hand-picked henchmen.

 

[Toro9]

 

[Flamma]

I think exactly 7, so I'll take the under.

 

[Nav22]

The never ending whining about officials out to get us is embarrassing.

That 49ers game?

1st penalty - Gregory offsides. Guess what? It was the right call. He was offsides.
2nd penalty - Gifford holding on kickoff. Guess what? He actually held. Another correct call.
3rd penalty - Holding Williams. Again, the right call
4th penalty - Gregory neutral zone. Again, the right call
5th penalty - Collins holding. This one was kind of questionable
6th penalty - Williams false start. Clear penalty
7th penalty - Collins false start. Clear penalty
8th penalty - Parsons neutral zone. Again, the right call
9th penalty - Wilson, block below the waist. Iffy but certainly not egregious
10th penalty - Lamb, illegal shift. Correct call
11th penalty - Delay of game. Correct call
12th penalty - Odi with defensive holding. Ehhhh. I question that one.
13th penalty - Gallimore, illegal use of hands. Correct call
14th penalty - Gregory, defensive holding. Yeah, questionable.

Of the 14 penalties, half were stupid stuff - offsides, illegal shifts, delay of game. All correct calls. Gallimore's hands to face? Correct. A few of the offensive holdings were the correct call. The defensive holdings, yes, we can debate them. But for the most part, the majority of penalties in that game weren't due to the refs just sticking it to us. It was due the fact we were undisciplined, which shouldnt' be surprising as we had these issues all season long.

Now track other games by other teams, and notice how many of those same plays go uncalled.

Take the very 1st penalty. Randy Gregory, offsides. He was BARELY lined up in the neutral zone, which goes uncalled 90% of the time. That’s why he was yelling “WOW!” at the refs right after the flag got thrown.

Kansas City’s DEs spent all game in the neutral zone vs Dallas... no calls.

11th penalty... delay of game. We snapped that ball BARELY after the clock hit zero, a play that also goes uncalled 90% of the time. This one was especially absurd... teams get away with this constantly, AND the ref was standing over the ball to make sure SF could substitute... he stood there for AGES then we got dinged for a VERY close delay of game. Total horse****.

Every team commits penalties. The amount of penalties that actually get called is what varies.

Tell me this: how did we magically go from having “average discipline” in 2020 to being INSANELY undisciplined in 2021? We were a much better team in 2021 than we were in 2020.

 

[lukin2006]

Over

 

[Sydla]

Now track other games by other teams, and notice how many of those same plays go uncalled.

Take the very 1st penalty. Randy Gregory, offsides. He was BARELY lined up in the neutral zone, which goes uncalled 90% of the time. That’s why he was yelling “WOW!” at the refs right after the flag got thrown.

Kansas City’s DEs spent all game in the neutral zone vs Dallas... no calls.

11th penalty... delay of game. We snapped that ball BARELY after the clock hit zero, a play that also goes uncalled 90% of the time. This one was especially absurd... teams get away with this constantly, AND the ref was standing over the ball to make sure SF could substitute... he stood there for AGES then we got dinged for a VERY close delay of game. Total horse****.

Every team commits penalties. The amount of penalties that actually get called is what varies.

Tell me this: how did we magically go from having “average discipline” in 2020 to being INSANELY undisciplined in 2021? We were a much better team in 2021 than we were in 2020.

Sometimes teams are just undisciplined year to year. Are you suggesting no other team had a wide swing in penalty rankings year to year?

 

[Nav22]

Sometimes teams are just undisciplined year to year. Are you suggesting no other team had a wide swing in penalty rankings year to year?

None as wide as ours, no.

We were dead last in penalties... while being #1 in yards, points and takeaways. That pisses me off royally.

The entire sport of football is predicated on discipline. Eleven guys being on the same page and executing their assignments.

We were somehow “VERY disciplined” when it came to moving the ball, scoring points and taking the ball away... yet “WILDLY undisciplined” in the 1 area of the game that the refs ultimately decide?

Feels like BS.

Just like it was BS that the refs didn’t call OPI on Chris Godwin in Week 1, totally robbing us of that win. I just don’t trust these refs to be unbiased. That was a GARBAGE no-call and I don’t believe for a second that it was an honest mistake.

Let me ask you this: if it was CeeDee Lamb pushing off a Bucs DB in that exact same scenario last year, do you honestly think it would’ve been a no-call?