Penalties Game 1 - Over/Under

[maryquality]

I'm going with the "over". I'm wondering how many "illegal contact" penalties we're going to get. Since this is supposed to be a "point of emphasis" this season.

 

[ESisback]

I’ve said from day one—the answer lies somewhere in the middle. While The Culture of Jerry is largely responsible for the teams’ problems, and the excessive penalties a byproduct of undisciplined play, I contend that the infamous “Dallas Bias” is also a factor. As the most hyped and most polarizing team, Dallas IS sometimes held to a more stringent standard—watched more closely. Human nature hints at perception perpetuated—why Dennis Rodman would usually get tagged with fouls that should have been called on Michael Jordan.

While the Cowboys are most often their own worst enemy, and every fanbase claims persecution, there has been far too many examples of strange coincidences to completely discount the notion that something’s not quite right.

 

[shabazz]

Now track other games by other teams, and notice how many of those same plays go uncalled.

Take the very 1st penalty. Randy Gregory, offsides. He was BARELY lined up in the neutral zone, which goes uncalled 90% of the time. That’s why he was yelling “WOW!” at the refs right after the flag got thrown.

Kansas City’s DEs spent all game in the neutral zone vs Dallas... no calls.

11th penalty... delay of game. We snapped that ball BARELY after the clock hit zero, a play that also goes uncalled 90% of the time. This one was especially absurd... teams get away with this constantly, AND the ref was standing over the ball to make sure SF could substitute... he stood there for AGES then we got dinged for a VERY close delay of game. Total horse****.

Every team commits penalties. The amount of penalties that actually get called is what varies.

Tell me this: how did we magically go from having “average discipline” in 2020 to being INSANELY undisciplined in 2021? We were a much better team in 2021 than we were in 2020.

This dude gets it. Spot on

 

[ESisback]

This dude gets it. Spot on

Also, they keep track of the frequency statistic, yet no one mentions the timing of the flags.

 

[Sydla]

This dude gets it. Spot on

He thinks there is some conspiracy out to get the Cowboys. If you believe that, LOL.

 

[bewp7]

over lol

not because of a cospiracy against the cowboys

because they is just a completly undisciplined team and mccarthy soes not seem to care just think it will magicly fix it self

 

[Sydla]

None as wide as ours, no.

We were dead last in penalties... while being #1 in yards, points and takeaways. That pisses me off royally.

The entire sport of football is predicated on discipline. Eleven guys being on the same page and executing their assignments.

We were somehow “VERY disciplined” when it came to moving the ball, scoring points and taking the ball away... yet “WILDLY undisciplined” in the 1 area of the game that the refs ultimately decide?

Feels like BS.

Just like it was BS that the refs didn’t call OPI on Chris Godwin in Week 1, totally robbing us of that win. I just don’t trust these refs to be unbiased. That was a GARBAGE no-call and I don’t believe for a second that it was an honest mistake.

Let me ask you this: if it was CeeDee Lamb pushing off a Bucs DB in that exact same scenario last year, do you honestly think it would’ve been a no-call?

I have no idea what the call would have been. Neither do you.

Your tin foil hat is embarrassing. How does this even go down? Is there some kind of secret meeting in NY where the league meets with all the officials and tells them what teams to call the most penalties on? Was there a PowerPoint presentation? Maybe it was online, like a Zoom call, and each ref was given a special code to log in?

When did this start? When did the refs start purposely trying to cost us games? It must have started after the Detroit playoff game where they gifted us a potential win when they didn’t call PI on us. Or maybe that ref hadn’t been to the meetings telling officials to screw us.

 

[shabazz]

He thinks there is some conspiracy out to get the Cowboys. If you believe that, LOL.

my belief is not that they are out to get the Cowboys. I’ve been on record as saying that the Packers, Steelers, Patriots and Giants have been given the biggest leeway and kindness by the officials

the Krafts, Maras and Rodney’s have been well respected by the league and have benefited greatly by the refs. The owners of the other teams are merely pedestrians in comparison to those other owners

the 2 most despised owners by the NFL brass were Jerry Jones and Al Davis and it must be a sheer coincidence that their teams have been hurt by timely and sheer number of penalties for many years

how can the Raiders go through dozens of new coaches and thousands of new players yet still lead the league in penalties many times over? ………I maintain that every team not named the Steelers,Giants,Packers and Patriots are subject to SUBJECTIVE officiating

if I said it was only against the.Cowboys, I would have to consider my own biases……but I’m not.


EDIT……plus it’s probably the only thing me and @Nav22 have ever agreed on, lol

 

[shabazz]

Also, they keep track of the frequency statistic, yet no one mentions the timing of the flags.

the timing is the key feature. We’ve gotten to the point where we all know WHEN the flag will be thrown.

now I’m not excusing all of the penalties as may of them are legit…..but we damn well know that when Brady and Rodgers are marching down the field for a game winning TD, their lineman would have to strangle a player to DEATH to get called for holding

 

[Sydla]

You guys are nuts.

The team has three playoff wins in 25 years which indicates we aren’t been all that good or disciplined for a long time.

As noted, there have been years where we rank low in penalties called and then high in penalties called. Explain that?

Or is it just that the league mandates screwing us only in certain years?

 

[MarcusRock]

You guys are nuts.

The team has three playoff wins in 25 years which indicates we aren’t been all that good or disciplined for a long time.

As noted, there have been years where we rank low in penalties called and then high in penalties called. Explain that?

Or is it just that the league mandates screwing us only in certain years?

Only when certain fans need to be coddled after a loss. That nonsense has gone beyond sports now. Heck, I think they got the idea from emotional sports fans. A person is capable of anything when emotional, hence the creativity you see here.

 

[Nav22]

I have no idea what the call would have been. Neither do you.

Your tin foil hat is embarrassing. How does this even go down? Is there some kind of secret meeting in NY where the league meets with all the officials and tells them what teams to call the most penalties on? Was there a PowerPoint presentation? Maybe it was online, like a Zoom call, and each ref was given a special code to log in?

When did this start? When did the refs start purposely trying to cost us games? It must have started after the Detroit playoff game where they gifted us a potential win when they didn’t call PI on us. Or maybe that ref hadn’t been to the meetings telling officials to screw us.

Hahhahahaha

The fact that you’re bringing up the Detroit playoff game says it all.

ONLY THE COWBOYS could be accused of being “gifted a win” because of a call that happened with 8+ minutes left and Detroit leading at the time, despite several other documented bad calls against us in that same game.

Your take on the Lamb hypothetical is adorable. Even more adorable if you actually believe it.

Go back to Week 1 of 2020 (Cowboys at Rams) for a ref that decided to call OPI WAY too strictly... to screw Dallas out of a win, of course. Funny how that’s the common denominator.

You don’t even see the double standards. You must not watch other NFL games besides the Cowboys.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

Easily over.

 

[TheHerd]

Over. We are staring a rookie LT against pass rushing beasts and a weak C and LG against Vea. I bet those three together get 7. We won't talk about the PI calls we always get.

 

[Sydla]

Hahhahahaha

The fact that you’re bringing up the Detroit playoff game says it all.

ONLY THE COWBOYS could be accused of being “gifted a win” because of a call that happened with 8+ minutes left and Detroit leading at the time, despite several other documented bad calls against us in that same game.

Your take on the Lamb hypothetical is adorable. Even more adorable if you actually believe it.

Go back to Week 1 of 2020 (Cowboys at Rams) for a ref that decided to call OPI WAY too strictly... to screw Dallas out of a win, of course. Funny how that’s the common denominator.

You don’t even see the double standards. You must not watch other NFL games besides the Cowboys.

You didn’t answer the question.

How does this even go down? How do the refs know to stick it to the Cowboys? Is there a memo? Who is making the decision to purposely call those penalties?

And LOL at now trying to use the time of when the Cowboys got a massive gift call to make it seem like not a big deal.

You sound silly here with your conspiracies.

 

[Nav22]

You didn’t answer the question.

How does this even go down? How do the refs know to stick it to the Cowboys? Is there a memo? Who is making the decision to purposely call those penalties?

And LOL at now trying to use the time of when the Cowboys got a massive gift call to make it seem like not a big deal.

You sound silly here with your conspiracies.

It could very well just be a subconscious bias by guys who grew up hating the Cowboys and maybe still do (like 80% of NFL fans).

 

[Sydla]

It could very well just be a subconscious bias by guys who grew up hating the Cowboys and maybe still do (like 80% of NFL fans).

Oh so subconcious bias. They just throw flags because they don't like the Cowboys. But how come they don't do it ever year? Does their subconciousness only kick in during random seasons? So in 2020, when the Cowboys were middle of the pack in penalties called, did the refs who hated Dallas (according to you seems like it would be a ton of refs in this category) have their subconcious turned off? But then in 2021, they remembered they hated Dallas so they threw a ton of penalties to hurt them?

The more you talk, the crazier you sound.

 

[Nav22]

Oh so subconcious bias. They just throw flags because they don't like the Cowboys. But how come they don't do it ever year? Does their subconciousness only kick in during random seasons? So in 2020, when the Cowboys were middle of the pack in penalties called, did the refs who hated Dallas (according to you seems like it would be a ton of refs in this category) have their subconcious turned off? But then in 2021, they remembered they hated Dallas so they threw a ton of penalties to hurt them?

The more you talk, the crazier you sound.

Maybe because the Cowboys were such trash in 2020, they knew they wouldn’t need to hammer us with penalties.

Call it what you want. Anyone who paid close attention noticed the garbage we faced from the refs last year... including our own players.

 

[TwentyOne]

I set the line at 7.5 penalties. This is called penalties, not accepted penalties.

I got over.

Over.

 

[Sydla]

Maybe because the Cowboys were such trash in 2020, they knew they wouldn’t need to hammer us with penalties.

Call it what you want. Anyone who paid close attention noticed the garbage we faced from the refs last year... including our own players.

Oh so there is an entire thought process to this now? Because we weren't good in 2020, all the biased refs, without consulting with each other, decided on their own that they didn't need to call penalties on us. But, when we looked better in 2021, again all on their own with no input from others or collusion, they decided to just through a lot flags on us?

Geezus, you should be embarrassed at this point.