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Hostile;3129714 said:
Yes, he is around. They are a strange family. They don't socialize with anyone in the neighborhood at all. They have an Irish Setter dog, named Fred, who periodically escapes. I have taken him home at least 3 times. They always act suspicious as to your motives for returning the dog. The front gate is always locked. You ring the bell and about 50% of the time no one will come even though their cars are there.

One time this guy who was tweaking hard on meth jumped the fence and ran through their yard. He stole a bicycle and I thought it belonged to them so I was trying to return it. A friend of theirs had just left their house. She was sure that bicycle was theirs. They wouldn't even come to the door for her. I asked her if she had their phone number and could she call them. She said, "they don't like phone calls." She wanted to take the bicycle and I wouldn't let her. Turns out it wasn't theirs. It belongs to the guy who owns the shed where the cat was hung.

The kid we suspect is aloof. You can't even be friendly to him. He is heavy for his age, has long hair that always seems unwashed, but maybe it's just unkempt, and even in the Summer he will wear a grey hoodie. About the only thing you ever see him do is ride his skateboard around the block.

This is all circumstantial evidence at best, but the kid worries me.

I am not trying to make light of the situation. Or is lite?

anyway, It sounds like your living on the set of "The Burbs", maybe you could bring him over some brownies?

on a serious note, my sister has two small girls. The neighbors have a boy the same age. The dad is a lunatic who was arrested and forced to leave, the mom thinks the kid is a saint but he is a terror. My sister wont let her kids play with him anymore because he is violent, aggressive and plain mean. Everytime my sister and brother n law bring it up with the mom she gets defensive and plays the "he is a good boy routine".

So just like that you do have a tough situation. Some people are just weird like that.
 

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CliffnMesquite;3129979 said:
'but the kid worries me'

He should. You said you wanted to know if he haunted the shed. Is there any place out of the way to hang a game camera.
I have actually considered that. Yes there is a place. Easily hidden too.
 

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vta;3130014 said:
My condolences. I know the type and yes, you are stuck with nothing more than hunches at this point. Not to be a bother, but do ever see this friend of theirs? If she gave that much info, maybe she can be some kind of conduit to at least let them get the drift of the perception surrounding them.

Like Cliff said, surveillance is really the only kind of option you have.
Good luck. These situations suck.
No, we never see any of their friends. The lady I mentioned reminded me of a human mouse. You basically know she has been abused and expects the next blow at any moment no matter who is nearby.

The weirdest thing about this family was their reaction the first time I took Fred back. The Mom was almost like "what do you want?" I tried to be neighborly (I'm kind of like that naturally) and she was more anxious to close her door than seems normal. After that there was a lock on the front gate and a bell and intercom.

They are not social like others in this neighborhood. We all get along. Everyone is leery of them. I've thought about calling the police anonymously from a pay phone and mentioning that boy. I'm just not sure that is fair. I really don't know he did it. I just have been expecting things from him. He won't look you in the eye if you see him out skateboarding. That bothers me and then when we started hearing about trouble he is getting into I start expecting the worst. I am not alone, that is what is spooky. Dan, the guy who owns the shed thought the same thing as me as soon as I told him about the cat being hung.

If this kid ends up going bad down the road I really won't be surprised. He just seems odd. I am trying to be nice about this and not accusatory without evidence.

Still bummed that Dan wanted that canon ball. You could actually see the divot made by the powder when it exploded and sent the ball out the barrel of the canon. It was cool.
 

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Sounds like your neighborhood is a real winner. I think I'd be looking to move outta there ASAP if you can.
 

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DIAF;3130379 said:
Sounds like your neighborhood is a real winner. I think I'd be looking to move outta there ASAP if you can.
I live in a great neighborhood actually. I really like my neighbors. I look out for them. I help them fix stuff. There's just one family nearby who don't fit in and it is because they are anti-social.

I've had my share of run ins around here, but that is with transients or strangers who are making trouble. Not with my neighbors. I have not had one single bad incident with any of them. Not even this family. They are just odd. No law against being odd.

BrainPaint loves my story of the crack head I punched in the alley about 5 years ago. Still wigs me out when I think about it.

This family has only lived here just over a year. They are strange, but for all I know this kid is innocent and just an introvert who has done a couple of stupid things. I don't know him other than his first name and I have never spoken to him. The only one I have ever spoken to is the Mom and she tries to get rid of you as fast as she can. The Dad and the kids leave the room so they don't have to talk to anyone.
 

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I know what its like to lose a cat to someone's aggression and my heart goes out to Mary Louise. She sure sounds like an angel, and a gift to humanity.

One of my cats was poisoned with anti-freeze. He was half siamese, extremely athletic and fast, an excellent mouser. He ran like a horse. He came in very late one night. The cat was in bad shape when he got home and hid away for the night...He had an absolutely agonizing last few hours on this earth, as his nervous system slowly shut down and he slowly lost all mobility. He finally died about twelve hours later in my arms. Took his last breath and went totally limp. I couldn't think of what to do so I just went out and dug his grave deep and carved him a headstone. It's definitely like losing a family member or loved one...You grow to know these cats...Their personality and preferences. They grow to love and rely on you and you grow to love and rely on them. It's a huge, painful blow to lose them...Even moreso when you know another person caused it and you can't find out who it was.

I hope against chance that you find out who did this, Hos. The ***** should get whats comin' to him...
 

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Holding my breath...Kitty (Billy's cat who has adopted Mary Louise) is missing.
 

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What happened with the crackhead in the alley? I never heard that one.
 

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DIAF;3130379 said:
Sounds like your neighborhood is a real winner. I think I'd be looking to move outta there ASAP if you can.

it probably is a nice neighborhood minus the psycho kid
 

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I agree sorry for this, I'm not reallly a animal lover but this is crap and we should up the animl cruelty laws should be upped for this type of cruelty type of ****
 

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Hostile;3129638 said:
I hate to say this. Several of us in the neighborhood believe it is a 14 year old boy. His first adventure in our neighborhood was to take some blue paint his parents used to paint the fence around their house and he sloshed a weird looking symbol on this rusted metal fence. Same symbol over and over. The paint trail led right back to their house and the paint matched.

The owner of the fence confronted the mother about it. She is a psychiatrist or psychologist, I cannot remember which. She defended him as a good boy and said he would never do anything wrong.

Well, this kid who won't do anything wrong burned down a different shed about 8 months ago.

Killing something seems like the next progression to some of us. Where this cat was hung in the shed is about 30 to 35 yards from his back yard.

Now it could very easily be someone who was just walking up that alley. But this kid knows about that shed. You can bet your boots on that.

Some of us are wondering what we should do. We have no evidence. Just suspicions because it seems he is screaming for attention and has a Mother who is denying there is a problem.

I fixed the hasps on that shed this morning so no one can get without literally breaking the doors to do it. I showed Dan the canon ball. He wanted it for his office. I don't blame him.

...sharp eye on the kid. I would trust your instincts on this one.
 

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Jon88;3132242 said:
What happened with the crackhead in the alley? I never heard that one.
My daughter's 11 year birthday we did a surprise party for her. I was taking out the trash and the dumpster is in the alley near where this cat was hung. There was a guy dressed entirely in black from head to toe. His top was a black hoodie. When he saw me he approached in a rather threatening manner. I quickly threw the two trash bags in the dumpster and turned to face him. He was about 3 feet away and his eyes were wild looking.

I said, "is there a problem?"

He drew his right hand back in a fist and I figured I had just been invited to the dance so I busted him in the mouth. Hard. I mean really hard. He staggered back about 2 steps, put his hand to his mouth and there was blood all over it. He looked at me and then walked off down the alley.

He never said a single word. It kind of wigged me out. I have never hit someone and have them still be standing. Ever.

I nearly broke my right hand I hit him so hard. To this day I do not take the trash out at night unless I take my mag light flashlight with me.

Back when adbutcher was first moving to Houston he found some guy living in the storage locker on his patio or balcony of the apartment they rented. Ad is a huge guy and he scared the living crap out of the guy who took off like a jackrabbit on crack.

BrainPaint has always joked that it was the same guy and he sent him to torment both of us.
 

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Man that's wild. He must have been high. I would have been a little bit meaner and knocked him out. Then I would have called the cops.
 

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Jon88;3132848 said:
Man that's wild. He must have been high. I would have been a little bit meaner and knocked him out. Then I would have called the cops.
I can't believe he wasn't out cold. It was a dead on the button shot and I threw my weight into it. I can really fight if I have to, but I don't like to. I've really hurt a couple of people in fights, and I'm not real proud of that. Had he kept coming for more I have a feeling he was so high I might have been in one hell of a scrap.

He didn't talk and just stared at me. Him wiping his mouth and looking at the blood on his hand and then walking away was freaky. Almost surreal.

I came back in the house and stuck my hand under the cold water immediately. No one could believe it until I showed them my hand swelled up and bruised. I really thought I broke it, but I didn't. It hurt for about 2 weeks though.
 

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Hostile;3132910 said:
I can't believe he wasn't out cold. It was a dead on the button shot and I threw my weight into it. I can really fight if I have to, but I don't like to. I've really hurt a couple of people in fights, and I'm not real proud of that. Had he kept coming for more I have a feeling he was so high I might have been in one hell of a scrap.

He didn't talk and just stared at me. Him wiping his mouth and looking at the blood on his hand and then walking away was freaky. Almost surreal.

I came back in the house and stuck my hand under the cold water immediately. No one could believe it until I showed them my hand swelled up and bruised. I really thought I broke it, but I didn't. It hurt for about 2 weeks though.

dude was probably on PCP

people on PCP have almost superhuman strength, they just don't feel pain

it appears you knocked some sense into him though, so that's good lol
 

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Hostile;3132910 said:
I can't believe he wasn't out cold. It was a dead on the button shot and I threw my weight into it. I can really fight if I have to, but I don't like to. I've really hurt a couple of people in fights, and I'm not real proud of that. Had he kept coming for more I have a feeling he was so high I might have been in one hell of a scrap.

He didn't talk and just stared at me. Him wiping his mouth and looking at the blood on his hand and then walking away was freaky. Almost surreal.

I came back in the house and stuck my hand under the cold water immediately. No one could believe it until I showed them my hand swelled up and bruised. I really thought I broke it, but I didn't. It hurt for about 2 weeks though.

Sounds like pcp as Bob said. Good thing you hit him first and scared him. I've seen people on tv do amazing things while on that. Punch through wooden fences like they're 1/2" thick, fight 5 cops after being shot, be unphased by pepper spray.
 

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Hostile;3122657 said:
There's an elderly lady who lives near me. She is a former Army nurse and she doesn't have any family. She considers my family hers. There is an abandoned shack near the alley and some stray cats live there. She feeds them every day. Food and water. They are her babies and she feeds them better than most cats who have homes.

One of her cats is an all black named Fluffy. He is the friendliest cat you can imagine. Loves everyone.

Today when I got home from church and before I could even see what the score of the game was my kids told me I needed to go see Mary Louise. Someone hung that friendly cat in that abandoned shed.

When Fluffy didn't come eat this morning and didn't again this afternoon Mary Louise went looking for him and found him hanging by a rope in one of the rooms.

She is broken hearted.

I know that whomever did it that the cat saw someone to say hello to, and was so friendly he was an easy target for a sick mind.

Tucson Police cut the cat down but left the rope. I took the rope down.

Heaven help the sick jerk who did that if I find out.

Sigh...

Damn... that's all, just damn...
 

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Faerluna;3122883 said:
I believe that there is a special place in Hell for people that kill animals.

If there's a just God (and I believe there is), then that kind of "human" will indeed burn...
 
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