Per Archer - Romo restructures today...Saves $10 mil

gimmesix

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I'm aware of that, but it doesn't always make sense long-term. I really don't want to be stuck with Romo in five years because we kept pushing money further and further into the future, and can't afford to get rid of him.

I don't think it is supposed to work like that. Generally, the length of the contract, even restructured, isn't designed to be how long the player remains in Dallas. The Cowboys design the contract to help the cap and ultimately to be absorbed as dead money when it's time for that player to retire/be cut. It's a constant flow of restructurings, cuts, etc.

In other words, Romo is only here five years if he continues to play like he should be the starting quarterback. If his skills drop off, Dallas will have other contracts to restructure to absorb the remainder of his contract, while likely starting a younger, cheaper quarterback. Now, if Romo suddenly doesn't come back from this back surgery and is unable to play anymore, there is no plan in place for situations like that. But otherwise, this is a long-term plan for manipulating the cap and controlling the acquisition and loss of players.

We should never read much into the length or cost of contracts because both are considered malleable by Dallas.
 

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This doesnt mean we dont draft a QB,probably not in the 1st rd but we should not make the same mistake of ignoring QBs who fall into our laps,who knows how many hits Romo's back can take.
 

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More Justin Durants.

chances are it will be mid level FA to fill gaps, if the Cowboys are to make real improvements then it will be done through the draft. Last years draft was big for the offense as we got 2 quality starters in Frederick and Williams.
 

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Someone explain how this is so?

Because the team has too much left to account for.

They can't take $35M in dead money next year to cut him.

That puts either Manziel or Romo on the bench, either of which is a massive waste of resources.

They'll restructure him next year because he has a cap number close to $28M.

That pushes the situation back a year to where Romo wouldn't be cut before 2017.

So it'd basically be 3 years of Manziel on the bench. If not him than the guy occupying 12-15% of your entire cap.
 

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Getting under it? No, not a big deal. Pushing out contracts so we end up paying out a lot of dead money, kind of a big deal.

Again, pay a guy 10% of your cap $ now vs. Pushing out that cap charge such that it eats 8-9% of cap in subsequent years.

Basic math suggests with rising caps that this is a smart approach.

People get confused between this approach and having bad deals like Rat and Livings.
 

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Because the team has too much left to account for.

They can't take $35M in dead money next year to cut him.

That puts either Manziel or Romo on the bench, either of which is a massive waste of resources.

They'll restructure him next year because he has a cap number close to $28M.

That pushes the situation back a year to where Romo wouldn't be cut before 2017.

So it'd basically be 3 years of Manziel on the bench. If not him than the guy occupying 12-15% of your entire cap.

I see what you guys are saying financially. But you all know, you allll know that if Manziel is on the board @ 16 Jerry will not be able to help himself.
 

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Because the team has too much left to account for.

They can't take $35M in dead money next year to cut him.

That puts either Manziel or Romo on the bench, either of which is a massive waste of resources.

They'll restructure him next year because he has a cap number close to $28M.

That pushes the situation back a year to where Romo wouldn't be cut before 2017.

So it'd basically be 3 years of Manziel on the bench. If not him than the guy occupying 12-15% of your entire cap.

Rookie is not going to take that much money, Heck Luck contract as an overall #1 pick is manageable even if he were to sit for 2 to 3 years. Instead of paying the money to a vet QB like Orton you would be going with a rookie
 

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chances are it will be mid level FA to fill gaps, if the Cowboys are to make real improvements then it will be done through the draft. Last years draft was big for the offense as we got 2 quality starters in Frederick and Williams.

Getting two quality starters in the first three rounds should be an expectation, not an adorable surprise. And I am not penciling in Williams as a starter just yet. We kept going back to Austin even though it was clear he was nothing but a decoy.
 

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I see what you guys are saying financially. But you all know, you allll know that if Manziel is on the board @ 16 Jerry will not be able to help himself.

Well that's another issue.

Common sense says you don't let a 1st round pick ride the bench for his entire first contract.

Jerry sense says, "how bout that Manziel" {wink}
 

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This doesnt mean we dont draft a QB,probably not in the 1st rd but we should not make the same mistake of ignoring QBs who fall into our laps,who knows how many hits Romo's back can take.

Who knows how many hits the worst defense in the league can take also. We need that over a backup qb. We can get a qb next year.
 

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Getting two quality starters in the first three rounds should be an expectation, not an adorable surprise. And I am not penciling in Williams as a starter just yet. We kept going back to Austin even though it was clear he was nothing but a decoy.

I agree it should not be a surprise and Williams I think has shown himself to be a starter for the Cowboys and that Dallas will release Miles. Williams had some early season struggles but settled into the role very well. Sorry not as jaded about his future with Dallas as you are. I'm also not going to sulk around acting as it there is no hope and no chance.
 

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Who knows how many hits the worst defense in the league can take also. We need that over a backup qb. We can get a qb next year.

yeah using one draft pick to pick a future starting QB will doom this defense,i hope Jerry is not that shortsighted but i have my doubts.
 

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Well that's another issue.

Common sense says you don't let a 1st round pick ride the bench for his entire first contract.

Jerry sense says, "how bout that Manziel" {wink}

I didn't say that, but I agree. :)
 

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It shouldn't, but it probably will.

That is my big fear right now. A "do-over" of what they thought they had last year. Hatcher returns with a contract that can be borrowed against, cross the fingers on Spencer with a one year deal. Adding in the havoc to be unleashed on the NFL in Crawford/Bass duo and we are "set" on the DL.

Fear warranted.

I think Jerrah feels that he has let Garrett down somehow.

Which indeed, Jerrah probably has.

He thru Garrett into a hodgepodge of a mess Phillips left behind.

So its only right Garrett gets the training wheels off now.

I'd be fine with Spencer and Hatcher and Ware and a high couple of DL draftees.

What I'd also like is to see Spencer go back to a hybrid DE/Lber and move BOTH him and Ware interchangeably as the outside LBers.

Flipflop them or maybe even put them both as down linemen coming up the middle to make the offense have to really account for them.
 

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yeah using one draft pick to pick a future starting QB will doom this defense,i hope Jerry is not that shortsighted but i have my doubts.

Why can't we pick a future QB next year? I guess the worst d in the league means little to some here.
 

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Fear warranted.

I think Jerrah feels that he has let Garrett down somehow.

Which indeed, Jerrah probably has.

He thru Garrett into a hodgepodge of a mess Phillips left behind.

So its only right Garrett gets the training wheels off now.


I'd be fine with Spencer and Hatcher and Ware and a high couple of DL draftees.

What I'd also like is to see Spencer go back to a hybrid DE/Lber and move BOTH him and Ware interchangeably as the outside LBers.

Flipflop them or maybe even put them both as down linemen coming up the middle to make the offense have to really account for them.

I don't want to turn this into a Garrett thing but your bolded statements are simply not true. Jerry is not great. We know that. But Garrett had enough talent in multiple years to win and his coaching decisions on the field blew games that had playoff implications. Plain and simple. He made monumental mistakes year after year. Jerry had nothing to do with that. He didn't throw Garrett into anything. He was a head coach in waiting all those years and had a hand in those Wade teams...teams that won a playoff game and divisions. Where was the mess? Garrett was waiting for his turn. Your training wheels home this point....he wasn't ready and ruined season...just like Jerry said a few months back.

As far as Romo restructure...what is new, we just keep putting things off. I'd still prefer Ware be gone wit his salary.
 
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