Per Mac Engle: Rivera has not heard from Jerry yet

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On the LBOH Show, her husband talked to Rivera this morning and he informed him that he had not heard from Jerry as of yet and he's about to fly back to Chicago.
 
Jerry decided he already had a defensive staff that couldn't locate the back coming out of the backfield. :)
 
I think I'm going to laugh when it turns out Ron Turner was the guy on the Bears we were waiting to have words with.
 
It's cuz he knows he's hiring Phillips already. I heard that on my HAM radio.
 
superpunk;1359427 said:
It's cuz he knows he's hiring Phillips already. I heard that on my HAM radio.

Playing with an elders HAM radio eh?
 
At the risk of opening a can of worms ... I apparently missed the discussion as to why in the world Rivera would leave a Super Bowl team for a lateral transfer, to coach under a widely considered much lesser head coach, on a less accomplished team. Particularly when the Head Coach-In-Waiting Jason Garret is already in place on said less accomplished team.

Honest question from an outsider. I can't see what's in it for Rivera.
 
Om;1359432 said:
At the risk of opening a can of worms ... I apparently missed the discussion as to why in the world Rivera would leave a Super Bowl team for a lateral transfer, to coach under a widely considered much lesser head coach, on a less accomplished team. Particularly when the Head Coach-In-Waiting Jason Garret is already in place on said less accomplished team.

Honest question from an outsider. I can't see what's in it for Rivera.

There is only speculation.

Money.

And getting out of Lovie's shadow, since people think he's just a figurehead running Lovie's defense.

But that's speculation. Although I buy the money one - the Bears are cheap. Or so my HAM radio tells me.

Still trying to contact the Great Gazoo.
 
Om;1359432 said:
At the risk of opening a can of worms ... I apparently missed the discussion as to why in the world Rivera would leave a Super Bowl team for a lateral transfer, to coach under a widely considered much lesser head coach, on a less accomplished team. Particularly when the Head Coach-In-Waiting Jason Garret is already in place on said less accomplished team.

Honest question from an outsider. I can't see what's in it for Rivera.

the argument goes that a) he doesn't get credit for the D b/c Lovie is there and b) the Bears are cheap.

Of course, he is getting tons of criticism today for the D, so I think that blows a. The Bears however remain cheap.
 
Om;1359432 said:
At the risk of opening a can of worms ... I apparently missed the discussion as to why in the world Rivera would leave a Super Bowl team for a lateral transfer, to coach under a widely considered much lesser head coach, on a less accomplished team. Particularly when the Head Coach-In-Waiting Jason Garret is already in place on said less accomplished team.

Honest question from an outsider. I can't see what's in it for Rivera.

MONEY!

His contract with the Bears expired after the Superbowl.

It is know they are cheap.

They are trying to work on an extension with Lovie.

Lovie was the lowest paid HC in the LEAGUE.

However from what I gather, and who knows with the validity of reports these days, that Lovie and the Bears seem to be a few million dollars apart.

Plus word is that IF Rivera became the DC with the boys and did a great job there would be no questioning if it was Rivera that made the defense great because chances are he would be the DC under Norv.

If he stayed in Chicago many would question if it was Rivera that made the D good or if he is just doing what Lovie told him to do concerning the D.

Hope that helps answer your question.

Oh also it seems as though Rivera has already been on record as saying he would not rule out a lateral transfer.
 
Om;1359432 said:
At the risk of opening a can of worms ... I apparently missed the discussion as to why in the world Rivera would leave a Super Bowl team for a lateral transfer, to coach under a widely considered much lesser head coach, on a less accomplished team. Particularly when the Head Coach-In-Waiting Jason Garret is already in place on said less accomplished team.

Honest question from an outsider. I can't see what's in it for Rivera.

Slow down before you put the Bears on some pedestal. They just happen to be the best team in a bad NFC this year. We saw just how far they have to go last nite.
 
How do you guys feel about a coach willing to take a lateral transfer simply for the money? Yes, I know it's a leading question, but it seems a pretty relevant one.
 
Om;1359447 said:
How do you guys feel about a coach willing to take a lateral transfer simply for the money? Yes, I know it's a leading question, but it seems a pretty relevant one.

it wouldn't make me any difference. he wouldn't be the first person to make a lateral move for money. then again, it wouldn't be all about money. There is a question of whether Lovie calling the shots or is he. He could prove himself with another team.
 
Om;1359447 said:
How do you guys feel about a coach willing to take a lateral transfer simply for the money? Yes, I know it's a leading question, but it seems a pretty relevant one.
How is it relevant?

Coaches make moves for money all the time. That is generally a pretty big part of the hiring process. I doubt he'd make a move because he thinks Ware is the league's best LB.

Your question is a little bit of nonsense.
 
Om;1359447 said:
How do you guys feel about a coach willing to take a lateral transfer simply for the money? Yes, I know it's a leading question, but it seems a pretty relevant one.
I can't remember, did Al Saunders take a pay cut to go to your team?

Who cares why he takes the job as long as you get him hired? Do you know anyone who appreciates being underpaid relative to his peers?
 
BlueStar22;1359449 said:
it wouldn't make me any difference. he wouldn't be the first person to make a lateral move for money. then again, it wouldn't be all about money. There is a question of whether Lovie calling the shots or is he. He could prove himself with another team.
What more does he have to prove as a DC? His Bear defense is already considered among the best in the league, and he just led that unit to a SB.

The other thing that doesn't seem to make sense is why anyone with head coaching aspirations would consider taking the job considering Garrett is already wearing the crown prince label.
 
Om;1359455 said:
What more does he have to prove as a DC? His Bear defense is already considered among the best in the league, and he just led that unit to a SB.

The other thing that doesn't seem to make sense is why anyone with head coaching aspirations would consider taking the job considering Garrett is already wearing the crown prince label.

If he does not get a HC job this season than he has to go with the DC Job.

And once again...there is talk that he wants to go to a team to get out from underneath Lovie's shadow.

He wants people to see that he is the one that is doing a great job as DC and have no mistakes or thoughts that he is just under Lovie and doing what Lovie says therefore not getting the proper credit.

Plus again...His contract is UP in Chicago...he now officially does not have a coaching contract with the Bears. If they try to low ball him why would he stay when he could be a DC elsewhere for more money.

Right now the Cowboys are the only team without a HC so if he does not get the HC job here than he will be a DC somewhere. Why not go to a place that pays well and helps his chance at getting recognition for his defense.

Not being rude...but if you still can not get it after that...I am afraid I don't know what else to tell you.
 
Chocolate Lab;1359451 said:
I can't remember, did Al Saunders take a pay cut to go to your team?
Apples to oranges. No one ever suggested Saunders took the Commanders job for the money as everyone is saying would be Rivera's primary motivation here. Saunders situation is/was radically different, as would be pretty easily fleshed out if that's who and what we were talking about. But it's not. How about we stay on track?
 
Om;1359461 said:
Apples to oranges. No one ever suggested Saunders took the Commanders job for the money as everyone is saying would be Rivera's primary motivation here. Saunders situation is/was radically different, as would be pretty easily fleshed out if that's who and what we were talking about. But it's not. How about we stay on track?
You're the one who asked the nonsense question.

How about we don't get huffy when people respond with some nonsense-ribbing? :rolleyes:
 
What's off track about it, Om?

Do you think Saunders chose DC simply because he loved the weather there?

I'm sure two million dollars a year had nothing to do with it. I guess he just heard what a great guy Danny was to work for. ;)
 
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